Star Trek: Discovery -- from EP Bryan Fuller -- Coming to CBS All-Access in 2017
09-23-17, 01:32 AM
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery -- from EP Bryan Fuller -- Coming to CBS All-Access in 2017
And there in lies the problem. By putting it behind a paywall they are preventing it from being a massive hit. What was the built in audience for a show about a few survivors during the zombie apocalypse? Pretty tiny yet The Walking Dead grew into the number one drama on TV. Star Trek won't be able to do that if it's limited to a streaming service that no one has. Bottom line they are taking advantage of Star Trek fans to further their streaming service at the cost of expanding the fan base and the franchise.
09-23-17, 01:37 AM
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery -- from EP Bryan Fuller -- Coming to CBS All-Access in 2017
Yeah basically most of these U.S. Star Trek viewers will be waiting anxiously for someone in the UK to pirate it for them. 
Too bad Netflix killed the usage of VPN's because this is being released internationally on Netflix. At least that would have cut some of the potential piracy.
The Good Wife (CBS show) had a similar problem earlier this year. It's spinoff series, The Good Fight, was also released exclusively on CBS All-Access in the Spring. The fans of the show were livid and filled their Facebook and other social media pages with incessant angry remarks.
Provider exclusive shows are really getting a lot of negative blowback.
Too bad Netflix killed the usage of VPN's because this is being released internationally on Netflix. At least that would have cut some of the potential piracy.
The Good Wife (CBS show) had a similar problem earlier this year. It's spinoff series, The Good Fight, was also released exclusively on CBS All-Access in the Spring. The fans of the show were livid and filled their Facebook and other social media pages with incessant angry remarks.
Provider exclusive shows are really getting a lot of negative blowback.
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09-23-17, 07:14 AM
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery -- from EP Bryan Fuller -- Coming to CBS All-Access in 2017
I have CBS All-Access. It’s being posted weekly.
For the record, this is not just a Star Trek streaming service as some seem to think it is. This isn’t the only show on the service. They carry all CBS dramas and comedies like Hawaii Five-O, Scorpion, NCIS, The Big Bang Theory and Survivor along with others. If you watch a lot of CBS, which I do, it’s worth it. I can understand those not wanting to invest in it if they don’t watch CBS dramas or comedies and already spend too much for entertainment.
For the record, this is not just a Star Trek streaming service as some seem to think it is. This isn’t the only show on the service. They carry all CBS dramas and comedies like Hawaii Five-O, Scorpion, NCIS, The Big Bang Theory and Survivor along with others. If you watch a lot of CBS, which I do, it’s worth it. I can understand those not wanting to invest in it if they don’t watch CBS dramas or comedies and already spend too much for entertainment.
Now if you don't have cable/sat, then I suppose it could be worth it, but then again, if you have a TIVO/DVR you could record all that stuff OTA.
I pay for CBS twice over in carriage fees - through my DTV and also through lifeline FIOS cable. Absurd that they want me to fork over more money for this. And it's not even commercial-free, correct?
Screw them.
09-23-17, 07:52 AM
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery -- from EP Bryan Fuller -- Coming to CBS All-Access in 2017
Let's all hope this is a spectacular failure so they have to move it to broadcast.
09-23-17, 08:48 AM
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery -- from EP Bryan Fuller -- Coming to CBS All-Access in 2017
How is it worth it if you have a DVR and can record all of that; not to mention, all that stuff is in VOD. So for most, it basically is a platform with only 2 pieces of unique content.
Now if you don't have cable/sat, then I suppose it could be worth it, but then again, if you have a TIVO/DVR you could record all that stuff OTA.
I pay for CBS twice over in carriage fees - through my DTV and also through lifeline FIOS cable. Absurd that they want me to fork over more money for this. And it's not even commercial-free, correct?
Screw them.
Now if you don't have cable/sat, then I suppose it could be worth it, but then again, if you have a TIVO/DVR you could record all that stuff OTA.
I pay for CBS twice over in carriage fees - through my DTV and also through lifeline FIOS cable. Absurd that they want me to fork over more money for this. And it's not even commercial-free, correct?
Screw them.
Yes it’s commercial free at $9.99 per month. Yes I know for having only 2 original series and stuff airing on broadcast TV, that’s probably way too expensive for most.
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09-23-17, 09:27 AM
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery -- from EP Bryan Fuller -- Coming to CBS All-Access in 2017
I'll watch the premiere because I'm a lifelong Trekkie and I'm curious, but once it moves over to CBS All Acess, I'm done watching (legally). As Red Dog said, I already pay for CBS on my cable bill, and I want to strongly discourage this type of a la carte streaming service bullshit.
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09-23-17, 09:29 AM
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery -- from EP Bryan Fuller -- Coming to CBS All-Access in 2017
$10 isn't expensive per se, but for the lack of unique content, it is IMO. I have no problem paying that for Netflix and Amazon, for example. They have a lot to offer. I don't pay for Hulu for the same reason (though I've 'borrowed' access to that for 11.22.63 and Handmaid's Tale).
It simply pisses me off because they're trying to advantage of a fanbase that they know is obsessed with this particular product. But that might come back to bite them since they're exactly the type who are savvy enough to know how to find it pirated online.
But I think the end game of this venture is to position themselves in the OTT market to try and land what will eventually be a streaming-only package of NFL games. I expect the NFL to award such a contract to some OTT service in the next NFL contract go-around in a few years.
Then, were CBS to win, they'll raise up the price to $15 or $20.
It simply pisses me off because they're trying to advantage of a fanbase that they know is obsessed with this particular product. But that might come back to bite them since they're exactly the type who are savvy enough to know how to find it pirated online.
But I think the end game of this venture is to position themselves in the OTT market to try and land what will eventually be a streaming-only package of NFL games. I expect the NFL to award such a contract to some OTT service in the next NFL contract go-around in a few years.
Then, were CBS to win, they'll raise up the price to $15 or $20.
09-23-17, 11:22 AM
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery -- from EP Bryan Fuller -- Coming to CBS All-Access in 2017
09-23-17, 11:33 AM
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery -- from EP Bryan Fuller -- Coming to CBS All-Access in 2017
I'll watch the premiere because I'm a lifelong Trekkie and I'm curious, but once it moves over to CBS All Acess, I'm done watching (legally). As Red Dog said, I already pay for CBS on my cable bill, and I want to strongly discourage this type of a la carte streaming service bullshit.
That is enough .. there is nothing on CBS All Access beyond Star Trek that I have the slightest interest in.
09-23-17, 03:19 PM
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery -- from EP Bryan Fuller -- Coming to CBS All-Access in 2017
Same here ... I pay for Netflix, Amazon (as much for prime as video, though I like some of their shows .. but doubt I would keep that one if not for the other benefits), and Hulu
That is enough .. there is nothing on CBS All Access beyond Star Trek that I have the slightest interest in.
That is enough .. there is nothing on CBS All Access beyond Star Trek that I have the slightest interest in.
09-23-17, 05:37 PM
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery -- from EP Bryan Fuller -- Coming to CBS All-Access in 2017
If CBS were smart (and they're not) they would have released this on Netflix like they did...in well, every other part of the world. It could have been the next Stranger Things.
Oh, and this show isn't that groundbreaking in the world of Trek as the media is purporting:
First Long-Running Story Arcs in Star Trek: ST: DS9 and ST: ENT
First POC lead in Star Trek: ST: DS9
First Woman Lead in Star Trek: ST: VGR
First Prequel Storyline in Star Trek: ST: ENT
First Big-Ass Movie Budget for Star Trek: JJ-Trek
First bit of homosexuality on Star Trek: ST: DS9
Ramped-Up, hardcore darkness and war in Star Trek: ST: DS9
(You may notice most of the groundbreaking stuff was on DS9--there's a reason for that.)
Oh, and this show isn't that groundbreaking in the world of Trek as the media is purporting:
First Long-Running Story Arcs in Star Trek: ST: DS9 and ST: ENT
First POC lead in Star Trek: ST: DS9
First Woman Lead in Star Trek: ST: VGR
First Prequel Storyline in Star Trek: ST: ENT
First Big-Ass Movie Budget for Star Trek: JJ-Trek
First bit of homosexuality on Star Trek: ST: DS9
Ramped-Up, hardcore darkness and war in Star Trek: ST: DS9
(You may notice most of the groundbreaking stuff was on DS9--there's a reason for that.)
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09-23-17, 08:26 PM
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery -- from EP Bryan Fuller -- Coming to CBS All-Access in 2017
I'll watch the first episode for free, then will find a way to continue watching ... for the same.
09-24-17, 12:15 AM
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It's also the most pirated show of all time.
Plus it's a totally different situation. HBO has been a premium channel for decades and has a lot more content for it's monthly subscription fee. CBS is trying to launch a subscription service with 2 exclusive shows with the rest being available for free through an antenna or people are already paying a fee for it though their cable provider. And the execs don't care if it comes at the expense of the Star Trek franchise. They are totally abusing the loyalty of Star Trek fans.
http://money.cnn.com/2017/09/22/medi...iew/index.html
On a call with investors last month, CBS CEO Leslie Moonves called the series "the perfect vehicle to take All Access to the next level and beyond."
It's obvious they care more about their inane subscription service then they do about the show itself.
One thing they could do that would be a nice compromise would be to offer the season for sale on blu-ray/digital and include being able to see the season as it unfolds. That way they wouldn't be double and triple dipping on fans.
Plus it's a totally different situation. HBO has been a premium channel for decades and has a lot more content for it's monthly subscription fee. CBS is trying to launch a subscription service with 2 exclusive shows with the rest being available for free through an antenna or people are already paying a fee for it though their cable provider. And the execs don't care if it comes at the expense of the Star Trek franchise. They are totally abusing the loyalty of Star Trek fans.
http://money.cnn.com/2017/09/22/medi...iew/index.html
On a call with investors last month, CBS CEO Leslie Moonves called the series "the perfect vehicle to take All Access to the next level and beyond."
It's obvious they care more about their inane subscription service then they do about the show itself.
One thing they could do that would be a nice compromise would be to offer the season for sale on blu-ray/digital and include being able to see the season as it unfolds. That way they wouldn't be double and triple dipping on fans.
09-25-17, 11:57 PM
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery -- from EP Bryan Fuller -- Coming to CBS All-Access in 2017
Overall I thought it was OK. But its sort of continuing in the vein of the recent Star Trek movies. In that it seems to be largely an action affair. One that blows stuff up as often as possible. Also, in 2 hours it felt like we only really got to know 1 character.
And this bugged me :
And this bugged me :
Spoiler:
09-26-17, 01:53 AM
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And this bugged me :
Spoiler:
And isn't it interesting that it is in dealing with the Vulcans that there is a huge failure in logic in the script! Good catch!
04-09-18, 11:54 AM
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery -- from EP Bryan Fuller -- Coming to CBS All-Access in 2017
Anson Mount will be play Captain Pike.
http://variety.com/2018/tv/news/star...nt-1202743293/
Too bad he won't be playing the TOS era Pike. He has experience playing a guy that can't speak.
http://variety.com/2018/tv/news/star...nt-1202743293/
Too bad he won't be playing the TOS era Pike. He has experience playing a guy that can't speak.
04-09-18, 01:40 PM
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery -- from EP Bryan Fuller -- Coming to CBS All-Access in 2017
Wonder who they'll get to play Spock.
They have to have some scenes with Spock and Michael and Sarek.
They have to have some scenes with Spock and Michael and Sarek.
04-09-18, 03:31 PM
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I suppose they could say Spock has been promoted/transferred off Enterprise, if S2 takes place between "The Cage" and "Where No Man Has Gone Before". And I'm sure Pike and Burnham will wax poetically about our favorite Vulcan while he's offscreen.
That's probably for the best, anyhow.
I wouldn't mind seeing someone take on Number One in all her cold ****yness.
That's probably for the best, anyhow.
I wouldn't mind seeing someone take on Number One in all her cold ****yness.
04-09-18, 03:41 PM
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04-09-18, 07:09 PM
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04-09-18, 09:12 PM
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Wouldn't mind seeing Elisabeth Moss in the role, but her plate is full.
Maybe Natalia Tena or Tatiana Maslany...
Maybe Natalia Tena or Tatiana Maslany...
