Mike86

Eh I dunno. With a series based on Titan it would be a bit more in the future and not exactly in TNG times. I can see your point but I think that Titan would be a good starting point for the next version of Trek. I could be wrong though and maybe going further to the future much like TNG did when it started after coming off of TOS and the films could work too. I just think it would need a really strong cast to pull that off. I think with Titan it would be a bit on the safer side because it would be starting something new while keeping elements of familiarity around.

Jimmy James

CBS would have to technically strike a deal, but as they're both Sumner Redstone controlled companies they do a lot of this business (I think). Still, the idea of this on CBS is bad, bad news for any plans to make this a shorter season series.

superdeluxe

Wow love all the discussion and passion. I like the suggestion of after DS9. Also like the AHS style storylines. Don't want the series following riker, but am okay with riker dropping in.

johnnysd

Part of me would love to see a 13 episode serialized more adult version of ST, but there is also part of me that would like to see ST:The Third Generation set 75 years or so after ST:NG with new technologies and storylines

Jimmy James

The tricorders would look just like iPhones!

Shady12

Pretty good idea. I do want it in the original universe and set right after DS9/Voyager in the timeline or a generation after. Don't go back to times we've already seen. I want something NEW where they can take the story where they want and not have to fit into what has already happened.

wz42

I know the format is near dead now but what does everyone think of first run syndication?

Here's my reasoning:

TOS first run - Cancelled by NBC
TOS repeats - became legendary in syndication
TNG - became legendary in syndication
DS9 - did well in syndication but many say it was hurt by being serialized
Voy - Did poorly on UPN
Enterprise - Cancelled by the CW

History seems to suggest ST does best with one off episodes in syndication to me...anyone see any flaws in my reasoning?

DthRdrX

I don't see any flaws in your reasoning but I can picture CBS/Paramount sitting around a table figuring out how to get in on the current landscape of TV. Look at what's popular recently and you'll see a ton of serialized shows.

Perhaps they would be better off following USA's Burn Notice, as the majority of the show had a main serialized story as well as a contained story of the week.

mikehunt

since they're down to one csi
CSI:Starfleet

Jimmy James

I think first run syndication is dead and has been for about a decade now as a viable place to do this. I think what is emerging to take its place is online. Star Trek would actually be the perfect property to use to launch a new online subscription site, particularly if you could time it with pulling the online rights from Netflix.

GreenMonkey

My favorite show!

They had JMS write up a Star Trek reboot supposedly back in '04 but it didn't go anywhere. I'd guess it'd be hard for him to write a show with an optimistic/unrealistic of a future as ST. I always liked that homeless people lived in the station, that drug trafficking was still a problem, etc. ST has a lot of that "we fixed all of today's problems" optimism which I always found a bit unrealistic.

The chances of some sort of TNG spinoff are non-existent IMO. Sure TNG was good, but the movies were mostly terrible, no one really wants Riker as a captain, and the whole cast is too old at this point, really.

Anything they do will surely be set in the reboot universe, for good or ill. Maybe a reboot universe show set between TNG and TOS? Or a reboot universe version of TNG?

They've really got to reign in the B.S. though. Into Darkness had a lot of problems with its magic Khan blood and universe-wide transporters.

DthRdrX

I always thought it was funny seeing the Enterprise crew "move beyond the petty behavior of the past", yet Star Fleet always seems to still be run by single minded politicians.

Tom Banjo

I'd be in for an evil mirror universe show that's infested with with Borg. We could get evil versions of characters we know fighting an even bigger evil. Put it on FX or AMC and make it super dark and violent.

wz42

Thats actually part of what I liked best of Roddenberry's vision.

Ouch! Riker old? Ill admit its been awhile since Ive seen him but I still think he looks younger than Picard was.

Plus there was that ep where Ronny Cox got command of the Enterprise in that 2 pt ep where Picard was being tortured so there's a precident for old captains.

Yeah...I guess syndication is dead...but an online subscription site...that'd be really margainizing ST in the other direction. Im not sure the franchise could handle that at this point.


Oh man. That would be the death of Star Trek for me and IMO would make Gene Roddenberry roll over in his grave.

Shannon Nutt

I'm willing to bet we don't see any movement on a TV series until shortly before or after the next theatrical film comes out (almost certainly in 2016, since that's the 50th anniversary year). My guess is this will be the last theatrical movie for a while, and Paramount/CBS will go back to TV.

I think a 13 to 15 episode "summer series" (like CBS did with Under The Dome) would be a perfect way to re-launch Trek on TV. Maybe serialize it this time around, instead of the (mostly) stand-alone episodes. Finally, I don't think we need a "darker" Trek - not that Trek has ever seriously gone that way, but so much sci-fi these days leans toward "end of the world" scenarios, going in the opposite direction with something hopeful and encouraging seems to be the right direction. That, of course, doesn't mean the show can't take risks (like killing off a cast member) or have conflict between characters (one of the biggest flaws in most of the Trek that's been on TV - primarily because Roddenberry never felt crew members would disagree with each other).

Groucho

I don't know. A lot of screen time in the early TNG seasons was given towards the conflict between Wesley and Picard.

Eric F

Screw that. I want Mirror-Trek. A Trek that takes place entirely in the Mirror Universe. They could do some amazing things with this...

wz42

True. Even in TOS Bone and Spock butted heads on occasion.

As such I wonder if rhat 'no crew conflicts' statement from Roddenberry may have been misquoted or misunderstood.

Tom Banjo

Sorry, i should have clarified that that was mostly tongue-in-cheek. But I think it'd make a cool book, some kind of DC Elseworlds-esque story.

Jimmy James

I think the idea behind no crew conflicts is that they're supposed to be a family. They can squabble, but everybody has to like each other at the end of the day.

Red Dog

I got pretty tired of the mirror DS9 episodes. Too much. I loved the ENT back-to-back ones though.

I think Gene rolled over in his grave over and over at the notion of wealth/latinum in DS9.

Jimmy James

Wasn't latinum in DS9 mostly a function of how there were plenty of non-Federation societies involved in life out there? It would stand to reason that even if the USA got to the point we didn't really need money at least for everyday things when we were dealing with China we'd still need some way of accounting for stuff.

Red Dog

Sure, but Gene seemingly ignored that (though there was the vague concept of credits). See: Picard blah blah blahing about the acquisition of wealth in First Contact.

The only episode where Gene really addressed capitalism was Mudd's Women - where Kirk had to barter.

Josh-da-man

That was mostly from the Ferenghis, wasn't it?

I'm not really sure what kind of intrinsic value "gold-pressed latinum" would have in a society where replication technology is ubiquitous.

Any system of currency exchange would need to be done with some kind of credit system (or even something like bitcoins?) since physical money backed by precious metals would have no intrinsic value.

And even then, you're only going to be paying for services or real estate since anything physical, both durable goods and consumables, could be replicated endlessly.

And I'm also assuming that space-faring worlds also have access to free energy, so that would be a negligible part of their economies.

From what I recall, the closest thing we've seen that points to energy production is the destruction of the Klingon moon Praxis in The Undiscovered Country.

Josh-da-man

In "Devil in the Dark," there was the mining company that was unknowingly destroying the Horta eggs. Which, like the Klingon moon Praxis, I'm not really sure what they would need to be mining when they seem to have the technology to create whatever they need from either nothing or generic base matter.

Though I would wager that at the time, the writers hadn't fully worked out the implications of the technology they had created.