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Old 10-26-15, 05:43 PM
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Gotham (S2E06) -- "Rise of the Villains: By Fire" -- 10/26/15




"GOTHAM" - (8:00-9:00 PM ET/PT) CC-AD-HDTV 720p-Dolby Digital 5.1

THE CITY GETS FIRED UP ON AN ALL-NEW "GOTHAM" MONDAY, OCTOBER 26, ON FOX

After Bridgit Pike (guest star Michelle Veintimilla) rejoins her brothers, a new spark of courage ignites within her, as she chooses to take control of her future. Meanwhile, Kringle and Nygma's relationship will take a new step and Penguin and Galavan continue to battle for control of Gotham City's underworld in the all new "Rise of the Villains: By Fire" episode of GOTHAM airing Monday, Oct. 26 (8:00-9:00 PM ET/PT) on FOX. (GTH-206) (TV-14 D, L, S, V)

Cast: Ben McKenzie as Detective James Gordon, Donal Logue as Harvey Bullock, Morena Baccarin as Leslie Thompkins, Michael Chiklis as Detective Nathaniel Barnes, Sean Pertwee as Alfred, Robin Lord Taylor as Oswald Cobblepot/The Penguin, Erin Richards as Barbara Kean, David Mazouz as Bruce Wayne, Camren Bicondova as Selina Kyle/the future Catwoman, Cory Michael Smith as Edward Nygma/the future Riddler, James Frain as Theo Galavan, Jessica Lucas as Tabitha Galavan, Chris Chalk as Lucius Fox, Nicholas D'Agosto as Harvey Dent, Drew Powell as Butch Gilzean

Guest Cast: Carol Kane as Gertrud Kapelput, Clare Foley as Ivy Pepper, Chelsea Spack as Kristen Kringle, Natalie Alyn Lind as Silver St. Cloud, Paulina Singer as Josie, Ian Quinlan as Pinkney, Lucas Salvagno as Martinez, Michelle Veintimilla as Bridgit, Leo Fitzpatrick as Joe Pike
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Old 10-26-15, 07:29 PM
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Re: Gotham (S2E06) -- "Rise of the Villains: By Fire" -- 10/26/15

I know it's very unlikely but Galavan really gives me a Joker vibe.
Mostly from the way his face looks and part of the way he acts.

Probably too old and too known to become the Joker though.
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Re: Gotham (S2E06) -- "Rise of the Villains: By Fire" -- 10/26/15

My DVR got cut off as Bridget was being wheeled into that basement. How did this end?
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Re: Gotham (S2E06) -- "Rise of the Villains: By Fire" -- 10/26/15

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My DVR got cut off as Bridget was being wheeled into that basement. How did this end?
They wheel her past a bunch of cells where experiments are being performed on people, and into her own cell/room. On the wall behind her it says: Indian Hill - A Division of Wayne Enterprises.
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Originally Posted by Groucho
My DVR got cut off as Bridget was being wheeled into that basement. How did this end?
Mine too, which is weird, it's usually prepared for extra-long episodes. I'll check Hulu tomorrow.
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Re: Gotham (S2E06) -- "Rise of the Villains: By Fire" -- 10/26/15

That mallet hand was fucking awesome. Still laughing about it.
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Re: Gotham (S2E06) -- "Rise of the Villains: By Fire" -- 10/26/15

I actually felt a little sad for Nygma in an odd way.

Decent episode, though you would think even at this age Bruce would be a little more badass, and smarter.

Mallet hand was great.

I still think the Doc is secretly evil.
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Re: Gotham (S2E06) -- "Rise of the Villains: By Fire" -- 10/26/15

Originally Posted by banthafett
That mallet hand was fucking awesome. Still laughing about it.
It did look awesome. Butch has become one of my favorite characters.

I was a little disappointed they ended Ed's relationship with Kringle so quickly. They built it up over one season, only to end it after a couple of dates. I have no idea how he escapes suspicion for her death.

As expected, the ratings for Gotham dipped when Supergirl premiered at 8:30 PM.

Bruce is one dumb kid. The whole dinner was a little over the top.
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Re: Gotham (S2E06) -- "Rise of the Villains: By Fire" -- 10/26/15

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It did look awesome. Butch has become one of my favorite characters.

I was a little disappointed they ended Ed's relationship with Kringle so quickly. They built it up over one season, only to end it after a couple of dates. I have no idea how he escapes suspicion for her death.

As expected, the ratings for Gotham dipped when Supergirl premiered at 8:30 PM.

Bruce is one dumb kid. The whole dinner was a little over the top.
The dickhead cop boyfriend did it.
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Re: Gotham (S2E06) -- "Rise of the Villains: By Fire" -- 10/26/15

Originally Posted by PhantomStranger
It did look awesome. Butch has become one of my favorite characters.

I was a little disappointed they ended Ed's relationship with Kringle so quickly. They built it up over one season, only to end it after a couple of dates. I have no idea how he escapes suspicion for her death.

As expected, the ratings for Gotham dipped when Supergirl premiered at 8:30 PM.

Bruce is one dumb kid. The whole dinner was a little over the top.
Thought she might be Ivy too
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I'm not justifying want Nygma did, but he basically accosted a guy who was abusing a woman and the way he killed him was almost self-defense. Having him kill Kringle was kind of stupid. I guess that ultimately, he's supposed to become a bad guy and therefore it's foolish to expect him to have a happy ending, but it seemed kind of abrupt. I dunno, maybe I was just happy he was finally getting some and in a good mood .
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Re: Gotham (S2E06) -- "Rise of the Villains: By Fire" -- 10/26/15

I was fully expecting Kringle to become a villain with Nygma.
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Re: Gotham (S2E06) -- "Rise of the Villains: By Fire" -- 10/26/15

Originally Posted by PhantomStranger
I was fully expecting Kringle to become a villain with Nygma.
Glad I wasn't the only one.
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Re: Gotham (S2E06) -- "Rise of the Villains: By Fire" -- 10/26/15

Originally Posted by jacob_b
Thought she might be Ivy too
Ivy is already in the show. It's the homely kid who hangs with Selina at times.
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Re: Gotham (S2E06) -- "Rise of the Villains: By Fire" -- 10/26/15

Originally Posted by Noonan
Ivy is already in the show. It's the homely kid who hangs with Selina at times.
The big hint as to who she is comes when they call her "Ivy".
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Re: Gotham (S2E06) -- "Rise of the Villains: By Fire" -- 10/26/15

Ivy is my biggest issue with the show. Ivy is my favorite Batman character. Hope the show is around long enough to turn the character around.
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Re: Gotham (S2E06) -- "Rise of the Villains: By Fire" -- 10/26/15

Ivy even appeared in the episode - she was interviewed by Bullock on the wereabouts of Selina and Fire-Girl.
Then in the next scene we see Bullock eating the candy bar he promised Ivy - LOL!
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Re: Gotham (S2E06) -- "Rise of the Villains: By Fire" -- 10/26/15

Originally Posted by LaxBandit
Ivy even appeared in the episode - she was interviewed by Bullock on the wereabouts of Selina and Fire-Girl.
Then in the next scene we see Bullock eating the candy bar he promised Ivy - LOL!
He didn't promise her the candy bar. He said that he would go get a candy bar and leave. That way she could sneak out instead of being sent off to child services.
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Re: Gotham (S2E06) -- "Rise of the Villains: By Fire" -- 10/26/15

Bullock had the episode's best line dealing with Ivy - "Ginger to ginger..."
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Re: Gotham (S2E06) -- "Rise of the Villains: By Fire" -- 10/26/15

Does anyone else think Butch is pulling a fast one on the Penguin by telling him he knows the location of his Mother? I was also sad to see Nygma kill Kringle, although, I'm not sure he did it on purpose. I was happy for the guy.
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I thought that the implication was supposed to be that the whip lady let Butch go so he could lead Penguin into a trap.
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Re: Gotham (S2E06) -- "Rise of the Villains: By Fire" -- 10/26/15

Originally Posted by hanshotfirst1138
I thought that the implication was supposed to be that the whip lady let Butch go so he could lead Penguin into a trap.
I figured so as well.

For Ivy, so the kid is Ivy? Wasn't 100% sure. I totally forgot about her and must have missed her in this episode (there were parts that kind of dragged). Bummer. Seems strange to have a kid play Ivy with a much older Nygma playing Riddler.
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Re: Gotham (S2E06) -- "Rise of the Villains: By Fire" -- 10/26/15

Nah, just think of a Batman that tends to beat up old men. Penguin, Riddler, Two-Face, and probably others are easily 10-15+ years older than him.
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Re: Gotham (S2E06) -- "Rise of the Villains: By Fire" -- 10/26/15

I agree about Riddler. He shouldn't be older than Bruce or at least, not by much. Penguin makes sense.
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Re: Gotham (S2E06) -- "Rise of the Villains: By Fire" -- 10/26/15

After this episode we know that Alfred is an equal opportunity child abuser. ��

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