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General Zod 10-19-15 11:11 AM

Re: The Walking Dead (S6E02) -- "JSS" -- 10/18/15
 

Originally Posted by Flatlander (Post 12621654)
At the end of last season when Morgan helps Daryl and Aaron escape from the wolves trap. You see one of the Wolves pick up Aarons pack and finds the pictures. It's right after they bring the guy in the red pancho to the fences by the trap.

Thanks for posting this. I couldn't remember all that happened last season.

About Morgan.. When he arrived he had said that Rick was right about everything and he knows now what he has to do.. but.. sure doesn't seem that way. I think he thinks if the Wolves got back and think about things they'll show back up next week in suits, nicely combed hair, and present their resumes. Letting bad people go in this world has never worked out well.

I was telling my wife when Carol saw that lady getting killed he reaction was one of horror but I think inside she was saying "Finally! I get to get out of this stupid homemaker crap and go kick some ass.". I would have really liked her sitting on the porch and suddenly running into the house and taking out her casserole just in time.

Dan 10-19-15 11:14 AM

Re: The Walking Dead (S6E02) -- "JSS" -- 10/18/15
 
Also, when Carol leaves that one woman in the armory, right after teaching her how to use a gun...

Did anyone else think she'd end up killing someone by mistake? What a weird setup with no payoff. Maybe Episode 3?

Melencio 10-19-15 11:30 AM

Re: The Walking Dead (S6E02) -- "JSS" -- 10/18/15
 

Originally Posted by Dan (Post 12621704)
Also, when Carol leaves that one woman in the armory, right after teaching her how to use a gun...

Did anyone else think she'd end up killing someone by mistake? What a weird setup with no payoff. Maybe Episode 3?

I think she's still there... waiting...:johnwoo:

Shazam 10-19-15 11:37 AM

Re: The Walking Dead (S6E02) -- "JSS" -- 10/18/15
 

Originally Posted by Flatlander (Post 12621688)
I don't think Enid is tied to the Wolves. Seems like they were setting it up as she lost her parents and Didn't want to lose anyone she cared about again so she doesn't get close to anyone. Seems like a then almost every character go through especially Michonne having to choose Rick and Carl instead of wandering with pets.

Also, when Enid was talking to Carl about this place is to big to protect, I think she was referring to how her and Carl were able to sneak out without anyone knowing meaning anyone can sneak in. Since she wasn't able to say goodbye to her parents, she was just making sure to say goodbye to Carl if he dies.

Although I don't think Enid had anything to do with the Wolves attack, she certainly shares their belief system:

http://i.imgur.com/ibvAskZ.png

I'm guessing she'll join them.

Flatlander 10-19-15 11:45 AM

Re: The Walking Dead (S6E02) -- "JSS" -- 10/18/15
 

Originally Posted by Dan (Post 12621704)
Also, when Carol leaves that one woman in the armory, right after teaching her how to use a gun...

Did anyone else think she'd end up killing someone by mistake? What a weird setup with no payoff. Maybe Episode 3?

I was wondering that about Carol. I kept thinking she would be mistaken for a Wolve by Carl and he caps her. I was hoping she wouldn't get anywhere close to the few Alexandrians that were armed.

Cellar Door 10-19-15 11:56 AM

Re: The Walking Dead (S6E02) -- "JSS" -- 10/18/15
 
When Morgan beat up that one group of Wolves and sent them running, one of the Wolves said something like "You're wrong--we don't have a choice." That and the fact that none of these Wolves had guns makes me think that maybe they are under the thumb of someone else and are attacking Alexandria because they have to, in order to keep their own lives or to buy the safety of their loved ones from some more dominant group of bad guys.



Originally Posted by General Zod (Post 12621696)
I would have really liked her sitting on the porch and suddenly running into the house and taking out her casserole just in time.

:lol: That would have been great--they missed an opportunity there!

DRG 10-19-15 12:48 PM

Re: The Walking Dead (S6E02) -- "JSS" -- 10/18/15
 

Originally Posted by malichai (Post 12621421)
Morgan's odd brand of pacifism in the face of a brutal assault by these savages is mind-numbingly irritating and stupid.

100%. There is clearly no grey area with these Wolves. They aren't redeemable, and surely have no interest in being redeemed. They seem to be predators for the sheer sake of being predators. At least the Terminus crew had survival-based motivations for their actions... the Wolves' motivation appears to simply be violence and destruction.

Shazam 10-19-15 12:58 PM

Re: The Walking Dead (S6E02) -- "JSS" -- 10/18/15
 
Did everybody not pay attention to the Wolves' philosophy in past episodes? Gee, they even one of them talking to priestdick - how much more obvious do you want it?

Dan 10-19-15 01:07 PM

Re: The Walking Dead (S6E02) -- "JSS" -- 10/18/15
 

Originally Posted by Cellar Door (Post 12621749)
When Morgan beat up that one group of Wolves and sent them running, one of the Wolves said something like "You're wrong--we don't have a choice."

Yeah, I think he said "We didn't choose."
Makes you think there might be an attempt to humanize them in upcoming episodes, but... they call themselves The Wolves; they've dehumanized themselves.

andicus 10-19-15 01:23 PM

Re: The Walking Dead (S6E02) -- "JSS" -- 10/18/15
 
Yep, Morgan really pissed me off. The new Tyreese, indeed.

Carol was awesome and, as already mentioned, does what the viewer is thinking, without hesitation.

Only thing she did that bugged me, a bit, was not making sure the guy she shot twice actually died. Since he saw the weapons cache, that could be a bad thing.

Anyone else find this episode just flew by? I was thinking it was about 1/2 over when it finished. I guess that's a good sign!

Shazam 10-19-15 01:42 PM

Re: The Walking Dead (S6E02) -- "JSS" -- 10/18/15
 
Carol was distracted by the noises from the closet.

General Zod 10-19-15 01:51 PM

Re: The Walking Dead (S6E02) -- "JSS" -- 10/18/15
 

Originally Posted by Dan (Post 12621813)
Yeah, I think he said "We didn't choose."
Makes you think there might be an attempt to humanize them in upcoming episodes, but... they call themselves The Wolves; they've dehumanized themselves.

Yeah thanks to Morgan I'm sure they'll go back and talk about what's become of them. Then they'll get haircuts, tailored suits, and present their resumes back at the main gates and beg for forgiveness...

And then Carol will pop them all.

Dan 10-19-15 02:02 PM

Re: The Walking Dead (S6E02) -- "JSS" -- 10/18/15
 
:lol: I appreciate that Morgan is going for the No Kills Xbox Achievement, but I agree. Carol's got the right idea.

As I said, I expect Morgan to throw his hands in the air and quit the group.

Flatlander 10-19-15 02:14 PM

Re: The Walking Dead (S6E02) -- "JSS" -- 10/18/15
 

Originally Posted by Dan (Post 12621891)
:lol: I appreciate that Morgan is going for the No Kills Xbox Achievement, but I agree. Carol's got the right idea.

As I said, I expect Morgan to throw his hands in the air and quit the group.

Agree, I see Morgan realizing he cant live with other people nor change Rick's mentality on how to handle conflict and ends up leaving.

Almost seemed like he was leaving last night.

superdeluxe 10-19-15 02:47 PM

Re: The Walking Dead (S6E02) -- "JSS" -- 10/18/15
 
No one noticed he had a side holster with a gun attached to it? Seems like he has fallen in line with Carol's thinking.

Deftones 10-19-15 02:53 PM

Re: The Walking Dead (S6E02) -- "JSS" -- 10/18/15
 
Now that was some good shit. I'm glad the horn wasn't sabotage by someone from within. Carol is a fucking badass. She may be the best character on the show now.

junior 10-19-15 02:55 PM

Re: The Walking Dead (S6E02) -- "JSS" -- 10/18/15
 

Originally Posted by Big Boy Laroux (Post 12621565)
So how did Morgan get to Alexandria SO much faster than everyone elze? Ninja teleportation?

Rick sent him back to tell everyone what happened to Spencer.

MLBFan24 10-19-15 02:58 PM

Re: The Walking Dead (S6E02) -- "JSS" -- 10/18/15
 
I'll rate this as my second favorite "action" episode from a TV show. Those were some badass killings.

My top favorite is from "24" (day 4, 12pm-1pm)

Flatlander 10-19-15 03:07 PM

Re: The Walking Dead (S6E02) -- "JSS" -- 10/18/15
 

Originally Posted by superdeluxe (Post 12621927)
No one noticed he had a side holster with a gun attached to it? Seems like he has fallen in line with Carol's thinking.

Didn't catch that. Just noticed he was holding a blue thing that I thought looked like a travel bag for toiletries and was trying to figure out why : )

Shannon Nutt 10-19-15 03:24 PM

Re: The Walking Dead (S6E02) -- "JSS" -- 10/18/15
 
Did no one else pick up on the fact that the Wolves KNEW who Morgan was? There's something there and it might be why he's so opposed to killing these days.

General Zod 10-19-15 03:33 PM

Re: The Walking Dead (S6E02) -- "JSS" -- 10/18/15
 

Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt (Post 12621960)
Did no one else pick up on the fact that the Wolves KNEW who Morgan was? There's something there and it might be why he's so opposed to killing these days.

They probably knew him from this..


hanshotfirst1138 10-19-15 04:09 PM

Re: The Walking Dead (S6E02) -- "JSS" -- 10/18/15
 
Thank you for not smoking!

Carl had enough problems before hormones.

Who was JSS?

mnementh 10-19-15 04:33 PM

Re: The Walking Dead (S6E02) -- "JSS" -- 10/18/15
 
Why were the Wolves wasting time hacking off limbs? Gunfire was audible so, unless they wanted to be sitting ducks, they should've taken cover.

superdeluxe 10-19-15 04:36 PM

Re: The Walking Dead (S6E02) -- "JSS" -- 10/18/15
 

Originally Posted by hanshotfirst1138 (Post 12621996)
Thank you for not smoking!

Carl had enough problems before hormones.

Who was JSS?

JSS stood for Just Survive Somehow

Shannon Nutt 10-19-15 05:20 PM

Re: The Walking Dead (S6E02) -- "JSS" -- 10/18/15
 

Originally Posted by General Zod (Post 12621968)
They probably knew him from this..


Why had I totally blocked that episode out of my head? It was even the same actor.


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