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Old 10-12-15, 06:46 AM
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Fargo (S2E01) -- Season Premiere -- "Waiting for Dutch" -- 10/12/15



Episode 1 / Production #201 - "Waiting for Dutch" (Airs October 12, 10:00 pm e/p) - In 1979, an unexpected turn of events at a diner disrupts the lives of the citizens in a small Minnesota town. Written by Noah Hawley; directed by Michael Uppendahl / Randall Einhorn.
10 episode second season.
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Re: Fargo (S2E01) -- Season Premiere -- "Waiting for Dutch" -- 10/12/15

Eagerly anticipating this. Read Sepinwall's preview/review, and it's hard to try to temper my expectations.
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Re: Fargo (S2E01) -- Season Premiere -- "Waiting for Dutch" -- 10/12/15

Can. Not. Wait.
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Re: Fargo (S2E01) -- Season Premiere -- "Waiting for Dutch" -- 10/12/15

Man, what a welcome return. This is going to be great.
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Re: Fargo (S2E01) -- Season Premiere -- "Waiting for Dutch" -- 10/12/15

Already better than True Detective Season 2.
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Re: Fargo (S2E01) -- Season Premiere -- "Waiting for Dutch" -- 10/12/15

Yep, looking good.
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Re: Fargo (S2E01) -- Season Premiere -- "Waiting for Dutch" -- 10/12/15

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Already better than True Detective Season 2.
full agreement. I think it's the accents that pull people in.
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Re: Fargo (S2E01) -- Season Premiere -- "Waiting for Dutch" -- 10/12/15

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Already better than True Detective Season 2.
Not exactly a high bar to cross

I thought it was a very good start as well.
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Re: Fargo (S2E01) -- Season Premiere -- "Waiting for Dutch" -- 10/12/15

Also forgot to mention... "Todd" from Breaking Bad has certainly bulked up. Is it costume/makeup or did he really get that big?

And nice to hear "Children of the Sun." RIP Billy Thorpe!

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Re: Fargo (S2E01) -- Season Premiere -- "Waiting for Dutch" -- 10/12/15

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Also forgot to mention... "Todd" from Breaking Bad has certainly bulked up. Is it costume/makeup or did he really get that big?

And nice to hear "Children of the Sun." RIP Billy Thorpe!
I think I read that Lance was that big for another part, but the Fargo people liked the look so they kept it.

Show reminded me of how much I use to like Kirsten Dunst before she just kind of lost career momentum in the mid 00s.
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Re: Fargo (S2E01) -- Season Premiere -- "Waiting for Dutch" -- 10/12/15

Extremely strong premiere, very very cinematic. Just the right tone, and expertly directed. Looks like maybe the reviews of the first four episodes are correct and it is better than season 1
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Re: Fargo (S2E01) -- Season Premiere -- "Waiting for Dutch" -- 10/12/15

Hoping to get to the two eps this weekend. I really enjoyed the first season.
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Re: Fargo (S2E01) -- Season Premiere -- "Waiting for Dutch" -- 10/12/15

Awesome first episode. The introduction to Ted Danson was painfully slow but other than that I thought it was great. And what is with Jesse Plemons? Was he wearing a fat suit or did he really gain 50 pounds?
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Re: Fargo (S2E01) -- Season Premiere -- "Waiting for Dutch" -- 10/12/15

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Awesome first episode. The introduction to Ted Danson was painfully slow but other than that I thought it was great. And what is with Jesse Plemons? Was he wearing a fat suit or did he really gain 50 pounds?
Seems like he did gain the weight.

Great start. Nicely layered. The body stack is on its way to the second floor.
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Re: Fargo (S2E01) -- Season Premiere -- "Waiting for Dutch" -- 10/12/15

Completely spaced out last night and totally forgot this was on. Not used to FX shows airing Monday nights I guess.

Will have to track down an encore airing or catch via the FXNow app.
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Re: Fargo (S2E01) -- Season Premiere -- "Waiting for Dutch" -- 10/12/15

This is a nice little interview: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/liv...-hawley-831324

This part is so true. I totally had that moment where it all came together and it was much more satisfying than if they had showed her getting out of the car as the scene played in real time.

Stylistically, this season feels very much of its period -- the first couple minutes aren't widescreen, and you use those split-screen transitions a lot. Was that all part of the plan?

It started for us with a lens choice. We shot this year on these lenses from the '60s, and just the old glass makes all the difference in what it looks like. Then the split screens were something -- we had shot the first hour and I was cutting it together, and we had started to cut together the second hour as well. As you said before, we have a lot more moving pieces, and I became very aware that in both hours, we see the Gerhardts in the beginning of the episode, and then we didn't go back to them at all. I didn't want to let them die ... because you also need the audience to understand, "Oh, shit -- they're coming." You know what I mean?

So what I started to play with was that we'd do these kind of interstitial transitions, where as we went from one scene to another ... we might cycle through where the Gerhardts are right now, where is Kansas City right now, just to keep that tension alive. We played around with it in a split-screen way, and once we were doing that ... I really liked it. And it is period, so it sort of feels like kind of the perfect thing.

You're still writing the story in the editing room. What's great about doing a large ensemble is you build something that's modular. ... You have the opportunity to move things around and play around with how things are done. In the first hour, in the script, Peggy hits Rye with the car, and you see her get out and see her drive home. I just had the feeling in the editing room of, what if the car hits him and just drives away, and we don't see who's in there? ...

The interesting thing now, having shown it to a lot of people, is people forget. She hits him with the car, then you have 20 minutes more story, then you get to Peggy in the house and the noise in the garage. You'd think people would get it right away, but then a lot of people are like, "Does she have a lover hiding in the garage?" Once you do that, people have that moment that I love -- we did it last year with Gus in the cabin at the end -- there's that moment where the audience both realizes what's happening and remembers. It's this split-second thing that kind of makes the hair stand up on the back of your neck.
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Re: Fargo (S2E01) -- Season Premiere -- "Waiting for Dutch" -- 10/12/15

What's up with the "UFO"?
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Re: Fargo (S2E01) -- Season Premiere -- "Waiting for Dutch" -- 10/12/15

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What's up with the "UFO"?
That's just what I came to ask. Was he just in shock and seeing things?

Awesome start.

Children of the Sun was used perfectly as well.
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Re: Fargo (S2E01) -- Season Premiere -- "Waiting for Dutch" -- 10/12/15

What’s up with the UFO?
For me it ties into the narrative that in the ’70s everything became like “black is white, the sky is the ground.” That’s the mindset. Obviously UFOs were huge in the ’70s. What do they say in “A Serious Man”? “Accept the mystery.” It’s not in there accidentally, let’s put it that way. We’ll see what it adds up to.

The Coens used a UFO in “The Man Who Wasn’t There.”
There was some permission I felt on some level that they had addressed that issue. The ’50s and the ’70s are sort of similar in that they’re both times of major paranoia in America. That seemed interesting to me.

It also seems to play into the idea this is a “true story” in a very broad sense.
When I first went in to FX to sell them on the idea that we should do this together, I said, “The first thing we have to figure out is what’s our Mike Yanagita?” (The high school classmate from Marge Gunderson’s past who she meets for a lunch date in the movie “Fargo.”) It’s like, “Why is this in the movie?” For me it’s in there because it’s one of those details where you’re like, “Why would they put it in unless it really happened?” They had to find a way to incorporate it into the story. The question for us was, “What are those moments for us?” There would be those moments where you might get a note like, “Do we need this scene?” That’s the fun of it. I don’t know how people are going to react to every element or every detail but nothing’s there as a gimmick for me. Everything’s there for a reason.
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Re: Fargo (S2E01) -- Season Premiere -- "Waiting for Dutch" -- 10/12/15

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This is a nice little interview: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/liv...-hawley-831324

This part is so true. I totally had that moment where it all came together and it was much more satisfying than if they had showed her getting out of the car as the scene played in real time.
I thought that was brilliant (and Coen-esque) and really elevated the entire hour. Some much incredible detail built into this episode, one of the best premiere episodes I have seen in a very long time.
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Re: Fargo (S2E01) -- Season Premiere -- "Waiting for Dutch" -- 10/12/15

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Seems like he did gain the weight.

Great start. Nicely layered. The body stack is on its way to the second floor.
Like I mentioned up thread, he supposedly gained it for a different part and kept it for this one.

Unfortunately, I read a couple of articles before the premiere so I knew it had to be Plemons and Dunst or at the very least Dunst driving the car. It's the only way to initially tie them to the story so they could get in over their heads.
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Re: Fargo (S2E01) -- Season Premiere -- "Waiting for Dutch" -- 10/12/15

Wow. This was great. Just like last season, I will be watching each episode twice before the next one airs.
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Re: Fargo (S2E01) -- Season Premiere -- "Waiting for Dutch" -- 10/12/15

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Like I mentioned up thread, he supposedly gained it for a different part and kept it for this one.

Unfortunately, I read a couple of articles before the premiere so I knew it had to be Plemons and Dunst or at the very least Dunst driving the car. It's the only way to initially tie them to the story so they could get in over their heads.
He was pretty chunky in Black Mass, which was likely filmed before/after Fargo.
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Already better than True Detective Season 2.
Yup agreed.
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Re: Fargo (S2E01) -- Season Premiere -- "Waiting for Dutch" -- 10/12/15

Good start

Almost felt like I was watching a 69 minute feature film. They do a really great job with making this show feel very cinematic as opposed to just being a cable show.

The shooting in the diner was pretty crazy. Funny how it started a chain of events that tied into each other.

A little weird seeing Ted Danson on here as well as CSI Cyber on Sunday. I believe he filmed this around December/January. He had a full beard on the last episode of CSI last season, so he must have filmed it simultaneously while he was working on Fargo.

Yeah it was really odd seeing a chunky Jesse Plemons. I also barely recognized Kirsten Dunst too.
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