True Detective (S2E08) -- Season Finale -- "Omega Station" -- 8/9/15
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Re: True Detective (S2E08) -- Season Finale -- "Omega Station" -- 8/9/15
I was thinking, as a stand alone, season 2 was fairly good. But once you compare it to the awesomeness of season 1, it definitely falls flat.
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Re: True Detective (S2E08) -- Season Finale -- "Omega Station" -- 8/9/15
HBO has inked an overall deal with “True Detective” creator Nic Pizzolatto through 2018, Variety has learned. Under the new pact, a number of new projects from Pizzolatto are being considered, including future installments of “True Detective,” though a third season is still not a sure thing.
However, the deal paves the way for a go-ahead decision for another season of “True Detective.” Sources say HBO has been looking to make a change in the way the show is run, given the critical response to the second season, and has presented Pizzolatto with a number of options. Those options include: him working with a staff of writers, having a new showrunner come in, as well as him going it alone again. In all scenarios, he would remain an exec producer.
Sources say HBO has been pressing Pizzolatto for an answer so they can move forward with production on the show.
The breakout season of “True Detective,” starring Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson, quickly garnered critical acclaim and become a pop culture phenomenon, earning Emmy nominations for outstanding drama series, writing and lead actor for both McConaughey and Harrelson.
The sophomore season, starring Vince Vaughn, Colin Farrell and Rachel McAdams, has been reviewed as disappointing, slammed by both critics and fans.
“Those expecting anything approaching the magic conjured by the original Matthew McConaughey-Woody Harrelson pairing should immediately temper their enthusiasm for ‘True Detective’s’ second season, Variety‘s Brian Lowry said in his Season 2 review. “Although generally watchable, the inspiration that turned the first into an obsession for many seems to have drained out of writer Nic Pizzolatto’s prose, at least three hours into this eight-episode run.”
Despite less-than-stellar reception, “True Detective’s second run ended up averaging more same-night viewers (2.61 million) than Season 1 (2.33 million), according to Nielsen. But that was due to a big tune-in for the first couple of weeks of Season 2. The finale of the second season averaged 2.71 million, while the conclusion of the first drew a series-best 3.52 million, according to Nielsen.
In multi-platform gross viewing, an estimated 11.9 million viewers watched Season 1 on a weekly basis, according to HBO, while 11.3 million watched Season 2, indicating that viewers seemed more passionate about the original installment.
“I am thrilled to continue our relationship with Nic, as he is one of the most exceptionally talented writers and producers working today,” said Michael Lombardo, president of HBO programming. “I look forward to seeing where his unique creative vision will take us next.”
Pizzolatto has been under an overall deal with the premium cabler since 2014, the year “True Detective” debuted.
However, the deal paves the way for a go-ahead decision for another season of “True Detective.” Sources say HBO has been looking to make a change in the way the show is run, given the critical response to the second season, and has presented Pizzolatto with a number of options. Those options include: him working with a staff of writers, having a new showrunner come in, as well as him going it alone again. In all scenarios, he would remain an exec producer.
Sources say HBO has been pressing Pizzolatto for an answer so they can move forward with production on the show.
The breakout season of “True Detective,” starring Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson, quickly garnered critical acclaim and become a pop culture phenomenon, earning Emmy nominations for outstanding drama series, writing and lead actor for both McConaughey and Harrelson.
The sophomore season, starring Vince Vaughn, Colin Farrell and Rachel McAdams, has been reviewed as disappointing, slammed by both critics and fans.
“Those expecting anything approaching the magic conjured by the original Matthew McConaughey-Woody Harrelson pairing should immediately temper their enthusiasm for ‘True Detective’s’ second season, Variety‘s Brian Lowry said in his Season 2 review. “Although generally watchable, the inspiration that turned the first into an obsession for many seems to have drained out of writer Nic Pizzolatto’s prose, at least three hours into this eight-episode run.”
Despite less-than-stellar reception, “True Detective’s second run ended up averaging more same-night viewers (2.61 million) than Season 1 (2.33 million), according to Nielsen. But that was due to a big tune-in for the first couple of weeks of Season 2. The finale of the second season averaged 2.71 million, while the conclusion of the first drew a series-best 3.52 million, according to Nielsen.
In multi-platform gross viewing, an estimated 11.9 million viewers watched Season 1 on a weekly basis, according to HBO, while 11.3 million watched Season 2, indicating that viewers seemed more passionate about the original installment.
“I am thrilled to continue our relationship with Nic, as he is one of the most exceptionally talented writers and producers working today,” said Michael Lombardo, president of HBO programming. “I look forward to seeing where his unique creative vision will take us next.”
Pizzolatto has been under an overall deal with the premium cabler since 2014, the year “True Detective” debuted.
#155
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Re: True Detective (S2E08) -- Season Finale -- "Omega Station" -- 8/9/15
HBO owns the True Detective property. They can easily move forward without Pizzolatto and hire a new showrunner to oversee a 3rd season. There's probably 20 TV showrunners that would kill to have this job. They don't really need to wait for an answer from him.
#156
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Re: True Detective (S2E08) -- Season Finale -- "Omega Station" -- 8/9/15
The secret weapon of season 1 was director Cary Fukunaga who directed all 8 episodes. They'd be wise to hire a talented director with a singular vision to direct every episode in one season.
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The first season had a sense of cohesion; not only one showrunner, but every Episode flowed together like a novel, a single director and DP. That's pretty rare in TV.
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Re: True Detective (S2E08) -- Season Finale -- "Omega Station" -- 8/9/15
The second season left such a sour taste in my mouth that I'm not eager to return to this show anytime soon. Probably the biggest drop in quality from season to season for any show in recent memory for me.
Will see how this plays out. Agreed that a single visionary team will be helpful. Pizzolatto can use some writing help.
Will see how this plays out. Agreed that a single visionary team will be helpful. Pizzolatto can use some writing help.
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Re: True Detective (S2E08) -- Season Finale -- "Omega Station" -- 8/9/15
The current "HBO is awesome!" promo that plays before everything on HBO Now seems to say that the app features "every episode" of current shows like Game of Thrones Silicone Valley and "the complete series" of finished shows like Rome.
For True Detective is says "the complete series." So maybe we're not getting a season 3.
For True Detective is says "the complete series." So maybe we're not getting a season 3.
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Re: True Detective (S2E08) -- Season Finale -- "Omega Station" -- 8/9/15
That would be a shame. I actually enjoyed season two, even if it wasn't as good as the first, and would have liked to see the show continue.
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Re: True Detective (S2E08) -- Season Finale -- "Omega Station" -- 8/9/15
Same here, I thought Season 2 was okay. That should have been season 1, then the McConaughey/Harrelson one should have been season 2. That would have guaranteed a season 3.
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Re: True Detective (S2E08) -- Season Finale -- "Omega Station" -- 8/9/15
No season 3
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Were you wondering what sort of manly men would get into dark and twisted trouble in the third season of True Detective? If so, we've got bad news for you: According to a THR profile of new HBO programming head Casey Bloys, a third season of the crime anthology series is probably not on the menu. More likely, sources say, is a different series from creator Nic Pizzolatto, who signed an exclusive deal with HBO last fall. The news is not incredibly surprising — even at the height of True D mania, Pizzolatto said he couldn't imagine making more than three seasons of the show. There's no word on what Pizzolatto's other ideas could be, but knowing what happened in season two, a Hollywood satire is probably out of the question.
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Re: True Detective (S2E08) -- Season Finale -- "Omega Station" -- 8/9/15
This sucks. I'm sick of the constant hyperbole and negativity of internet communities and critics treating every show that fails to live up to personal expectations as an abomination that should never have been made. Was True Detective 2.0 as good as the first season? No, but it was a very challenging a compelling season of television. Unfortunately the internet decided it should be decried and abolished after a couple of episodes and thus, fans of the series will never see it continue.
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Re: True Detective (S2E08) -- Season Finale -- "Omega Station" -- 8/9/15
This sucks. I'm sick of the constant hyperbole and negativity of internet communities and critics treating every show that fails to live up to personal expectations as an abomination that should never have been made. Was True Detective 2.0 as good as the first season? No, but it was a very challenging a compelling season of television. Unfortunately the internet decided it should be decried and abolished after a couple of episodes and thus, fans of the series will never see it continue.
#166
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Re: True Detective (S2E08) -- Season Finale -- "Omega Station" -- 8/9/15
Obviously most people disagreed with me. I still think online criticism has turned into an atmosphere of vitriol, and we're choking ourselves into obsolescence with our own negativity.
#167
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Re: True Detective (S2E08) -- Season Finale -- "Omega Station" -- 8/9/15
I still have a bad taste in my mouth from season 2, but still would have liked for the creative team to have a chance to redeem themselves and end on a higher note. Too bad they won't get that opportunity.
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Re: True Detective (S2E08) -- Season Finale -- "Omega Station" -- 8/9/15
I will say that season 2 as a whole isn't that strong but it's still pretty solid and as someone has mentioned....as a stand alone it's pretty good. I got bored with the last couple of episodes but as a whole, it definitely stands on its own - I don't think it should be compared to season one at all.
I will even go as far to say that in some areas, season 2 is better than the first.
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Re: True Detective (S2E08) -- Season Finale -- "Omega Station" -- 8/9/15
This sucks. I'm sick of the constant hyperbole and negativity of internet communities and critics treating every show that fails to live up to personal expectations as an abomination that should never have been made. Was True Detective 2.0 as good as the first season? No, but it was a very challenging a compelling season of television. Unfortunately the internet decided it should be decried and abolished after a couple of episodes and thus, fans of the series will never see it continue.
#170
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Re: True Detective (S2E08) -- Season Finale -- "Omega Station" -- 8/9/15
Merely cancelling the show is not enough. HBO should burn the Season 2 negatives, bury them out in the woods, and then dance about naked on the grave.
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Re: True Detective (S2E08) -- Season Finale -- "Omega Station" -- 8/9/15
I don't think S2 was as bad as people made it out to be, but yeah the story was not good. I did enjoy the atmosphere and performances though. It's disappointing there won't be a third season.
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Re: True Detective (S2E08) -- Season Finale -- "Omega Station" -- 8/9/15
Season 2 let my wife and I down so badly after season 1 that I doubt we would have watched a season 3 unless there were overwhelmingly positive reviews for it.
#173
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Re: True Detective (S2E08) -- Season Finale -- "Omega Station" -- 8/9/15
I'm not heartbroken over this. I thought season one was incredibly overrated and I don't think season two was nearly as bad as people make it out to be( but it was still some of the most depressing television I've seen in the past decade).
#174
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Re: True Detective (S2E08) -- Season Finale -- "Omega Station" -- 8/9/15
The thing is with a show like this where the seasons don't tie together and have new casts and storylines it shouldn't really matter that much if a season was perceived as bad. The second season was pretty forgettable and nowhere near as good as the first but it was also pretty hard to follow when the first was so strong.
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Re: True Detective (S2E08) -- Season Finale -- "Omega Station" -- 8/9/15
This sucks. I'm sick of the constant hyperbole and negativity of internet communities and critics treating every show that fails to live up to personal expectations as an abomination that should never have been made. Was True Detective 2.0 as good as the first season? No, but it was a very challenging a compelling season of television. Unfortunately the internet decided it should be decried and abolished after a couple of episodes and thus, fans of the series will never see it continue.