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OldBoy 07-09-15 08:48 AM

When good shows go bad?
 
now, this is strictly my opinion, but i was binging Orange is the New Black (S3) the past week and just thought overall it was terrible. no good running story line, no real antagonist this year, it just seemed goofy and soulless for me. S1 & 2 i was watching with gleeful anticipation. now, nothing and i can wait for S4.

then, to wash the palette clean i decided to jump back into House of Cards (S3), now, i am only on the 2nd ep. but man this is not turning out to well for me. again, a once riveting and enthralling show for me has turned bad. could it turn around? possibly, but for now 2 great shows turned bad for me.

so what short time or long time running show that you watch was once great, but then turned sour and which season did it turn bad?

coli 07-09-15 08:57 AM

Re: When good shows go bad?
 
The Sopranos Season 4

Entourage Season 7

Family Ties Season Season 4

Weed Season 3

dex14 07-09-15 08:58 AM

Re: When good shows go bad?
 
Weeds - Season 3
Californication - Season 3
Rescue Me - Season 5ish
The Office - Season 7
Entourage - Season 7
Dexter - Season 5

morriscroy 07-09-15 09:02 AM

Re: When good shows go bad?
 
Galactica 1980.

It was like WTF ?!?!?!?!

HN 07-09-15 09:34 AM

Re: When good shows go bad?
 
Happy Days, season 5

kgrogers1979 07-09-15 09:35 AM

Re: When good shows go bad?
 
The entire last season of Roseanne. I don't think any season of any show has pissed me off as much as that season did.

starseed1981 07-09-15 09:55 AM

Re: When good shows go bad?
 
Rescue Me Season 4
The Vampire Diaries Season 3
Royal Pains Season 3
Rectify Season 2
Ice Road Truckers Season 2
One Tree Hill Season 7
The League Season 6
Wilfred Season 3
Buffy Season 6

starseed1981 07-09-15 09:55 AM

Re: When good shows go bad?
 

Originally Posted by kgrogers1979 (Post 12530847)
The entire last season of Roseanne. I don't think any season of any show has pissed me off as much as that season did.

I don't think anyone will ever be able to argue with that.

superdeluxe 07-09-15 11:25 AM

Re: When good shows go bad?
 

Originally Posted by OldBoy (Post 12530819)
now, this is strictly my opinion, but i was binging Orange is the New Black (S3) the past week and just thought overall it was terrible. no good running story line, no real antagonist this year, it just seemed goofy and soulless for me. S1 & 2 i was watching with gleeful anticipation. now, nothing and i can wait for S4.

then, to wash the palette clean i decided to jump back into House of Cards (S3), now, i am only on the 2nd ep. but man this is not turning out to well for me. again, a once riveting and enthralling show for me has turned bad. could it turn around? possibly, but for now 2 great shows turned bad for me.

so what short time or long time running show that you watch was once great, but then turned sour and which season did it turn bad?

I liked this season of Orange is the New Black.

But I think most shows tend to turn bad because they over stay their welcome.

After Season 5 X-Files started its slow journey to being bad..and capped it with 2 pretty bad seasons to end the series.

GuessWho 07-09-15 11:27 AM

Re: When good shows go bad?
 
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Traxan 07-09-15 12:52 PM

Re: When good shows go bad?
 
ER, after Hathaway left. I forget the season. Once she left, the show went off the rails.

Nice to see Julianne has found a great second gig. There's no ER residuals to be had when the show isn't on syndication anywhere.

Jadzia 07-09-15 01:56 PM

Re: When good shows go bad?
 
Heroes, season finale of Season 1
Orphan Black - season 2
True Blood - was it Season 3? I forget when it started to suck

PhantomStranger 07-09-15 02:00 PM

Re: When good shows go bad?
 

Originally Posted by dex14 (Post 12530825)
Weeds - Season 3
Californication - Season 3
Rescue Me - Season 5ish
The Office - Season 7
Entourage - Season 7
Dexter - Season 5

This is a pretty good guide, though I would probably shave a couple of years off for a couple of them.

Once a hit show lasts that long, most of the original people behind the scenes that made the show successful have moved on to better paying jobs. It's the economic reality of television and why long-running shows quickly decline in quality after a certain point.

Crocker Jarmen 07-09-15 02:04 PM

Re: When good shows go bad?
 
Parks and Recreation went from being may favourite network show season 2-3 to something I didn't even watch the last season of.
Twin Peaks started getting embarrassing halfway through season 2.
In season three of Father Ted, they started making Ted as stupid as Dougal. Had the show gone on beyond that season, I'm pretty sure it would have continued going downhill.

dex14 07-09-15 02:08 PM

Re: When good shows go bad?
 
Parks and Rec stayed consistently great from seasons 2-7.

superdeluxe 07-09-15 02:11 PM

Re: When good shows go bad?
 
I think a better question would be, what series for the most part was mostly good through the entire run? (Say a show that lasted more than 3 seasons)

mwbmis 07-09-15 02:18 PM

Re: When good shows go bad?
 

Originally Posted by PhantomStranger (Post 12531099)
Once a hit show lasts that long, most of the original people behind the scenes that made the show successful have moved on to better paying jobs. It's the economic reality of television and why long-running shows quickly decline in quality after a certain point.

Another thing, especially with comedies, is the tendency for the characters to get stupider and stupider as the years go by. For example, it was a wonder Ross could even tie his own shoes by the end of Friends, and he was a Ph.D.

DVD Josh 07-09-15 02:21 PM

Re: When good shows go bad?
 
Suits has really lost its mojo. We might give up on it.

Preterite 07-09-15 02:39 PM

Re: When good shows go bad?
 

Originally Posted by Crocker Jarmen (Post 12531109)
In season three of Father Ted, they started making Ted as stupid as Dougal. Had the show gone on beyond that season, I'm pretty sure it would have continued going downhill.

Speaking of Linehan's shows, the fourth season of The IT Crowd was a bit of a disappointment. The series-ending special was pretty good, however.

LorenzoL 07-09-15 02:45 PM

Re: When good shows go bad?
 

Originally Posted by Crocker Jarmen (Post 12531109)
Parks and Recreation went from being may favourite network show season 2-3 to something I didn't even watch the last season of.
Twin Peaks started getting embarrassing halfway through season 2.
In season three of Father Ted, they started making Ted as stupid as Dougal. Had the show gone on beyond that season, I'm pretty sure it would have continued going downhill.

I thought the start of the season, up to the halfway mark of S2 of Twin Peaks was crappy. Things started getting better to the end.

LorenzoL 07-09-15 02:46 PM

Re: When good shows go bad?
 

Originally Posted by dex14 (Post 12531115)
Parks and Rec stayed consistently great from seasons 2-7.

I agree with the above.

kgrogers1979 07-09-15 02:56 PM

Re: When good shows go bad?
 

Originally Posted by superdeluxe (Post 12531119)
I think a better question would be, what series for the most part was mostly good through the entire run? (Say a show that lasted more than 3 seasons)

The Shield
Buffy the Vampire Slayer

Buffy had a few weak seasons (specifically the seasons with Adam and The Trio) but none of them were actually bad. Buffy at its worst was still very good.

Rob V 07-09-15 03:07 PM

Re: When good shows go bad?
 
Sons of Anarchy Season 3
The Office (season 6?) - When Michael Scott Left

cleaver 07-09-15 03:24 PM

Re: When good shows go bad?
 
Alias had this big finale one year with a big red ball, then the next season dropped off a cliff.

Ginwen 07-09-15 03:27 PM

Re: When good shows go bad?
 
LA Law, when she fell down the elevator shaft. It also retroactively made the entire show unwatchable.

Big love, i'm not sure exactly when, but it went from being a great show to being just awful. Same thing kind of happened with Six Feet Under when the wife disappeared, but then they totally redeemed it at the end.

True blood about the third season or so, but it was still mostly good as long as it stuck to eric-related storylines. Anything else was pretty much garbage.


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