Shannon Nutt

I've always thought that MAD MEN was somewhat overrated. Last night's episode and everyone's reaction to it has only solidified that opinion.

Like most of the series' episodes, didn't love it, didn't hate it...it was just "okay."

slop101

Line of the night, of course, went to Roger:
"She's old enough to be her mother, in fact, she is her mother..."

For me, it's the best TV drama ever, just ahead of The Wire.

Mike86

Honestly I agree. It was a very good series but the way it gets talked up at times as one of the best shows ever I don't know if I necessarily agree with. To me it seems like it reached a point where it got sort of old and overstayed its welcome a bit. The acting was really good and I enjoyed it a lot as a period piece, but it definitely has its highs and lows and wasn't always consistently great.

Fist of Doom

It was nice that Peggy finally found happiness with Chewbacca.

Jcheckel

I know this is from a few pages ago, but I think it's obvious he went back and created the ad, and not just from the similarities between the people at the retreat and in he ad. Don was there to regain a perspective not find a new way of life. Look at how he's dressed in the final scene where they're meditating and he gets the idea, he's just visiting their world he's not a part of it.

I was initially disappointed that the scenes with the women were over the phone, but they're part of the life he goes back to.

I loved the scene with Roger and Don's secretary at the beginning, translating Roger's speech into pig Latin and hoping Don was in a better place.

Jack Straw

I love that Roger immediately fired Meredith's for translating his memo into Pig Latin (at his suggestion as a joke).

slop101

I wanna see a Mad Men movie - but just 2 hours of what would be Roger's wedding - you'd have most of the cast there, and it would be freaking hilarious!

Jack Straw

Bachelor party included of course!

mwbmis

The finale was a little hit and miss for me. There were parts I really liked, and parts I didn't. Thought the guest actor at the end was a horrible fake crier. Took me out of the scene. Glad that all the Coca-Cola foreshadowing had a payoff, even if it was the predictable one.

Also, sorry to see that Jenna has fallen on such hard times since Wilfred's death.

Red Dog

Same here. I was surprised to learn that it premiered in 1971. I would have figured 1975 or so.

I wish there was some final Don/Roger conversation but Roger had some good lines in this one.

Shannon Nutt

Yep, you summed it up nicely for me. I never really hated the show and enjoyed sitting through plenty of episodes over the years. But the replay value for me? Virtually zero.

BuckNaked2k

flashburn

God damn, that was just fucking perfect. I completely loved this entire season, including the finale. It definitely ended on a high note for me, after a couple of seasons that I didn't absolutely love (but didn't really dislike either).

It's just amazing the quality level of scripted television nowadays. Absolutely incredible.

Decker

There is no more nowadays. The last President on Mount Rushmore (Sopranos, The Wire, Breaking Bad, Mad Men) just died.

Timber

That's a pretty incredible Mount Rushmore.

stingermck

Yeah with this and Justified over this year , so many of my shows are gone

What is the next ground breaking show?

aktick

It is, and off the top of my head the only show still airing that could make a claim is Game of Thrones. Maybe True Detective if you want to include that format? Time will tell.

Mike86

Maybe not groundbreaking, but Better Call Saul is filling in some of the gap left by Breaking Bad and Mad Men. Other than that there are some decent cable shows still on such as Bates Motel and I would say that True Detective has potential if the subsequent seasons live up to the first.

mphtrilogy

Better call Saul is pretty sweet, check it out

Numanoid

He didn't fire her for that reason. He was keeping her around in the hopes that Don would return, but as that didn't happen, he couldn't get away with having two secretaries. I'm sure Meredith got her job back once Don came back to nail the Coke ad.

Numanoid

I preferred the one along the lines of, "Two lobsters... and a bottle of champagne for my mother."

Goat3001

I think he did the Coke ad but I don't know if I like it yet. There's something great about knowing that Don will go back to being Don. The best Don was when he was crushing it at those meetings. Why fight it?

On the other hand, it makes it seem that his personal journey was a big circle. We always forgave his actions because we felt he was miserable and needed to find his happiness. And in the end, it was a cult that made him realize that his happiness was always in advertising.

I could have done without Peggy and Stan. It was a fine ending but I ultimately found it unnecessary. Maybe I'm in the minority but I never really cared about Peggy's love life. I always figured she'd find someone but I was more interested in her career-wise. Her last moment with Don was fantastic. Don's always "loved" Peggy so it's good to see him think of her when he really needed someone.

Everything else was good.

whotony

YES!
There was no ambiguity, it was so clear it practically hit you in the head.

Agreed
That was Funny.



So I can't undersatnd why anyone thinks it's left for interpretation as to if he created that ad.

There was no subtlety anywhere about it, all the Coke mentions the last few eps.

Especially when the guy wants him to fix the coke "machine".

I don't know music so I could be way off but I thought that the bell and the ohmmm at the end was in the same key as the musical notes heard in the commercial.

Draper finally refreshed and renewed created the ultimate jingle of the early 70's.
That's what he is and he was the king of ads at the end.

And those who wanted to see more why, what else did you need to see.
We know what happened to everyone. It was all right there on the small screen.

DthRdrX

Didn't even remember this but was posted in an online review.

Jack Straw

I thought the ambiguity about Don’s future was gimmicky, and kind of a "dick" move, I suppose MW attempt to be artsy-fartsy. Would it have been too much to ask for something along the lines of:
 When the ad concludes in the McCann conference room, we see Don from the back, standing tall, receiving the adulation of his peers and the Coke executives (maybe even Peggy and Stan smiling, too), and then the camera pans across his office, his desk in particular, and we see a few picture frames with him and his children, from a vacation in Madrid (following Betty’s funeral), and individual frames of him with Betty and the kids, with Megan, and perhaps with Anna. Something to show us he didn’t abandon his only real family. Is that asking for too much?