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Re: Homeland (S4E10) -- "13 Hours in Islamabad" -- 12/7/14

Great episode. Yeah, you don't use your brain, ala 24, but it's so awesome.

The final two episodes should be great too.
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Re: Homeland (S4E10) -- "13 Hours in Islamabad" -- 12/7/14

Originally Posted by DJariya View Post
Hey I thought you quit this show weeks ago? Or did you suck it up and stick around now that it's back to being good again?
I've been half-assing it. When something 'big' happens, I record it and watch it. Like the kid getting shot in the head a few weeks ago.

I'll go back and get the whole season from Showtime On Demand when it's over, probably over the holidays.
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Re: Homeland (S4E10) -- "13 Hours in Islamabad" -- 12/7/14

Wouldn't be right to say goodbye to Fara without posting a smoking hot photo of her.

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Re: Homeland (S4E10) -- "13 Hours in Islamabad" -- 12/7/14

Not Fara! Nooooooooooo! (we seriously don't have a cry emoticon?)

She better get cast on another show... that I watch or will want to watch... and be in every fucking episode.

I hate in shows when the good guys kill the bad guys and don't take their weapons when chasing after other bad guys. Don't know if it would've made a difference here, but you take them just in case it could be helpful.

It was an entertaining episode... as long as you turn your brain off.

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Re: Homeland (S4E10) -- "13 Hours in Islamabad" -- 12/7/14

Well, she was just cast as one of the leads in the new Ben-Hur movie.

Honestly, I don't see why you guys are such fans of the character/actress. To me she was just a minor character on the show that really didn't do anything for me. I wasn't even aware it was the same character from season 3 in season 4 until I saw it mentioned here.
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Re: Homeland (S4E10) -- "13 Hours in Islamabad" -- 12/7/14

Don't you get it man? She was a neophyte whose faith and allegiances were tested. She proved to be much stronger than she was initially given credit for and showed that through hard work and perseverance even the most lowly of clerks in the CIA....

Oh, who am I kidding? It's because she was hot.
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Re: Homeland (S4E10) -- "13 Hours in Islamabad" -- 12/7/14

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everybody?
Old 12-08-14, 07:49 PM
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Re: Homeland (S4E10) -- "13 Hours in Islamabad" -- 12/7/14

While Lochart's move was dumb, I wouldn't call him a pussy. If Quinn hasn't come along, he would have been killed, maybe kidnapped in a best case scenario. If a former CIA chief was a valuable target, just imagine the value of the sitting chief.

Lockhart would know that and went out there anyway. Of course, it was to trade the lives of all the assets in the region for like four lives.
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Re: Homeland (S4E10) -- "13 Hours in Islamabad" -- 12/7/14

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Honestly, I don't see why you guys are such fans of the character/actress.
As mentioned already... the hotness factor.

She was a decent enough actress though. I thought her character could be more interesting if they got her more involved and trained her, etc. Homeland is basically the Carrie and Saul show (and Peter to a lesser extent). I liked that Peter is more involved in the storylines - but I think they need more than 3 major characters for this type of show.
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Re: Homeland (S4E10) -- "13 Hours in Islamabad" -- 12/7/14

I really hope they keep Quinn alive because he needs to star in a Homeland spin-off. He's the heir apparent to Jack Bauer.
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Re: Homeland (S4E10) -- "13 Hours in Islamabad" -- 12/7/14

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I really hope they keep Quinn alive because he needs to star in a Homeland spin-off. He's the heir apparent to Jack Bauer.
Correction : He needs to star in Homeland.

And Jack Bauer would never bang a 300 lb landlord. A murderous Russian CTU mole, sure. But only the hot ones.
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Re: Homeland (S4E10) -- "13 Hours in Islamabad" -- 12/7/14

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Correction : He needs to star in Homeland.

And Jack Bauer would never bang a 300 lb landlord. A murderous Russian CTU mole, sure. But only the hot ones.
What if he was doing it as visual torture to get information from a terrorist?

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Re: Homeland (S4E10) -- "13 Hours in Islamabad" -- 12/7/14

My prediction for the finale:

Quinn is captured as a POW & held for approx. 12 years where he in turn becomes a sympathizer. Upon being freed he discovers his tryst with the landlord resulted in an annoying daughter. While looked upon as a national hero, he secretly plots with the enemy to assassinate the presid......wait, what?

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Re: Homeland (S4E10) -- "13 Hours in Islamabad" -- 12/7/14

I like Peter's relationship with the landlady. She's the only person in his life that doesnt try to manipulate him. It's good that he's not shallow and can see beyond how someone looks to others.

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Re: Homeland (S4E10) -- "13 Hours in Islamabad" -- 12/7/14

this show has synced up with actual news cycle pretty creepily

the buzz is back
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Re: Homeland (S4E10) -- "13 Hours in Islamabad" -- 12/7/14

Originally Posted by majorjoe23 View Post
While Lochart's move was dumb, I wouldn't call him a pussy. If Quinn hasn't come along, he would have been killed, maybe kidnapped in a best case scenario. If a former CIA chief was a valuable target, just imagine the value of the sitting chief.

Lockhart would know that and went out there anyway. Of course, it was to trade the lives of all the assets in the region for like four lives.
Which is all the more reason why he never would have gone out of that vault.
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Re: Homeland (S4E10) -- "13 Hours in Islamabad" -- 12/7/14

Yea, Lockhart coming out of the vault was very dumb and really didn't make sense to the character and the essence of the show.

They were already killing hostages... and it was obvious that once Lockhart came out and gave up the files he would either be captured/tortured for more info... or killed right there along with everyone else. They're terrorists - they won't turn down an opportunity to kill. What reason would they have to leave and let the remaining hostages live?

After that move, Lockhart would've gotten shit-canned for that. But if Carrie still has a job and so much responsibility after all her shit, Lockhart is pretty much safe.
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Re: Homeland (S4E10) -- "13 Hours in Islamabad" -- 12/7/14

^ Agreed. That sequence seemed completely out of place. I see why they did it because they needed a reason to get that black box in the hands of the bad guys, but they could have gone with something more convincing.

Regardless, very exciting episode. They seem to be honoring many wishes here by giving us rogue Quinn to close out the season. Should be fun
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Re: Homeland (S4E10) -- "13 Hours in Islamabad" -- 12/7/14

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Yea, Lockhart coming out of the vault was very dumb and really didn't make sense to the character and the essence of the show.

They were already killing hostages... and it was obvious that once Lockhart came out and gave up the files he would either be captured/tortured for more info... or killed right there along with everyone else. They're terrorists - they won't turn down an opportunity to kill. What reason would they have to leave and let the remaining hostages live?

After that move, Lockhart would've gotten shit-canned for that. But if Carrie still has a job and so much responsibility after all her shit, Lockhart is pretty much safe.
I still bought the scene in the sense that he was given more of a personality this season rather than big-bad bureaucrat man. Plus he was obviously out of his element, seeing this kind of action firsthand. They showed how flustered he was when the agent gave him the package.

And you never know how someone will react when people are being killed and you're being told you can make it stop.
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Re: Homeland (S4E10) -- "13 Hours in Islamabad" -- 12/7/14

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you never know how someone will react when people are being killed and you're being told you can make it stop.
The even harder question is, would you sacrifice certain people over certain other people, and on what basis? It seemed to be the people in the black book were people from the area who were helping the U.S., not our agents. So do we value embassy-type folks (American citizens) more than foreign nationals (even if they're helping us)? Also, do we value the people getting killed right in front of us rather than nebulous names in a black book?
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Re: Homeland (S4E10) -- "13 Hours in Islamabad" -- 12/7/14

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Noonan!
I thought that Taliban guy looked an awful lot like a D'Annunzio.
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Re: Homeland (S4E10) -- "13 Hours in Islamabad" -- 12/7/14

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Noonan!
I really feel bad for actors like Michael O'Keefe because I just can't get past Caddyshack when I watch him in other roles. All during Homeland, you would have these serious scenes where Terrorists are attacking our Embassy, and when I see him in a scene, I think of people yelling 'NOONAN!' while he is about to putt!
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Re: Homeland (S4E10) -- "13 Hours in Islamabad" -- 12/7/14

I think that it's being missed that this isn't Lockhart's background. He's not trained like the others. I think his relenting is to demonstrate that.

It's harder to be a badass when real lives are on the line and you are the one to make the call.
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Re: Homeland (S4E10) -- "13 Hours in Islamabad" -- 12/7/14

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I still bought the scene in the sense that he was given more of a personality this season rather than big-bad bureaucrat man. Plus he was obviously out of his element, seeing this kind of action firsthand. They showed how flustered he was when the agent gave him the package.

And you never know how someone will react when people are being killed and you're being told you can make it stop.
If Lockhart was thousands of miles away, save and sound, he would have sent out the drones w/o fear....continuing being the tough guy that the right-wingers would love as a CIA director. I'm glad that Homeland captured the difference between a "push-button" remote response and being right there when you can actually see and deal with it up close.
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Re: Homeland (S4E10) -- "13 Hours in Islamabad" -- 12/7/14

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I think that it's being missed that this isn't Lockhart's background. He's not trained like the others. I think his relenting is to demonstrate that.

It's harder to be a badass when real lives are on the line and you are the one to make the call.
I know, his background is he is a politician. Therefore it would be completely out of character for him to take any kind of personal risk. He'd never open that vault, and he'd try to shoot anyone who did.

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