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Old 09-08-17, 11:04 AM   #1051
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Re: The One and Only TV FAQ Thread Plus Renewal and Cancellation News

"Doctor Who" spinoff "Class" canceled after one season.

http://tvline.com/2017/09/08/class-c...r-who-spinoff/

I couldn't find a series thread for this show. Was it talked about in a Doctor Who thread?

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Old 09-09-17, 05:34 PM   #1052
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Amazon cancelled 2 period shows in the last 2 days.

Z: The Beginning of Everything and The Last Tycoon.

Amazon said they are changing their direction of scripted shows and going for bigger event series type programming.
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Old 09-13-17, 09:07 PM   #1053
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‘People of Earth,’ ‘Wrecked,’ ‘The Guest Book’ Renewed at TBS
http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/peop...bs-1202557518/
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Old 09-15-17, 08:39 PM   #1054
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http://deadline.com/2017/09/stitcher...rm-1202170907/

Freeform cancels Stitchers after 3 seasons
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Old 09-15-17, 09:16 PM   #1055
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Re: The One and Only TV FAQ Thread Plus Renewal and Cancellation News

After opening up a new mystery in literally the last minute or two.

Oh well, at least it wrapped everything previous up pretty well, I thought.
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Old 09-21-17, 07:58 PM   #1056
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Re: The One and Only TV FAQ Thread Plus Renewal and Cancellation News

Netflix has renewed Bojack Horseman for a 5th season.
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Old 09-22-17, 02:25 PM   #1057
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Freeform cancels Stitchers after 3 seasons
They gave that show every chance, basically rebooting the premise every season it was on the air.

These small cable shows need tighter casts. Stitchers had far too many recurring characters running around for a series that only lasted 30 episodes.
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Old 09-22-17, 04:50 PM   #1058
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They gave that show every chance, basically rebooting the premise every season it was on the air.
That begs the question of whether the reboots themselves caused declining ratings. I've never found season-to-season reboots to improve on the original series premise, thus to me a reboot means "kill it faster" not "give it a chance".
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Old 09-23-17, 07:22 PM   #1059
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https://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com...-2017-the-end/

Dark Matter is dead for good. No other viable broadcast options found.
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Old 09-23-17, 07:31 PM   #1060
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That really sucks.
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Old 09-24-17, 12:28 PM   #1061
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That really sucks.
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Old 09-24-17, 04:02 PM   #1062
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That begs the question of whether the reboots themselves caused declining ratings. I've never found season-to-season reboots to improve on the original series premise, thus to me a reboot means "kill it faster" not "give it a chance".
What it usually means is that the network likes the cast but think the showrunners' poor decisions hurt the show's popularity.

Freeform has been in kind of a tailspin the past couple of years as Pretty Little Liars ended its run and they've moved away from their ABC Family roots. The network stands for nothing these days.
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Old 09-27-17, 06:30 PM   #1063
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SEPTEMBER 27, 2017 3:18pm PT by Lesley Goldberg
'The Mist' Canceled at Spike After One Season (Exclusive)
The news comes as the Viacom cable network will rebrand in January as Paramount Network.
Courtesy of Spike TV

It's one and done for Spike TV's The Mist.

The Viacom-owned cable network has canceled the freshman drama based on the Stephen King novella.

Picked up straight to series in April 2016 as part of Spike's push to re-enter the original scripted space, the drama starring Morgan Spector and Frances Conroy launched in late June to solid sampling, drawing 1.2 million viewers to the premiere with live-plus-three day Nielsen returns. However, the rest of The Mist's run could barely crack 800,000 viewers — even with DVR. Among adults 18-49, it couldn't even crack cable's top 30 scripted series.

The drama, produced by the Weinstein Co./Dimension TV, marked Spike's return to scripted after scrapping previous efforts includingRed Mars and the Jerry Bruckheimer-produced drama Harvest, both of which were picked up straight to series.

The decision to cancel The Mist comes as Spike is set to be rebranded as Paramount Network in January as part of a larger plan to reinvigorate corporate parent Viacom.

Spike/Paramount Network president Kevin Kay told THR in March The Mist had the potential to move to Paramount Network with a second season if the first run performed well. Instead, Paramount Network will launch with a mix of high-end scripted including the Weinstein Co.-produced Taylor Sheridan drama Yellowstone and miniseries Waco, as well as TV Land-developed entries American Woman and Heathers.
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Old 09-27-17, 06:51 PM   #1064
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That show was awful. Just awful.
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Old 09-27-17, 07:03 PM   #1065
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That begs the question of whether the reboots themselves caused declining ratings. I've never found season-to-season reboots to improve on the original series premise, thus to me a reboot means "kill it faster" not "give it a chance".
That's a good point. Personally, I never thought the show was as good as it was in Season 1. Giving the lead a fictional disease in which she couldn't feel emotions, as well as making her so intelligent that she didn't understand many people and situations was a bold choice, but I was glad to see some groups not often mentioned in tv brought up. Of course they completely reversed course in S2 by curing her of that. I wouldn't be surprised if that alienated some portion of the original audience, and I don't know that they did anything to bring more people in.
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Old 09-27-17, 08:12 PM   #1066
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That's a good point. Personally, I never thought the show was as good as it was in Season 1. Giving the lead a fictional disease in which she couldn't feel emotions, as well as making her so intelligent that she didn't understand many people and situations was a bold choice, but I was glad to see some groups not often mentioned in tv brought up. Of course they completely reversed course in S2 by curing her of that. I wouldn't be surprised if that alienated some portion of the original audience, and I don't know that they did anything to bring more people in.
Here's my take on Stitchers:

network exec: "genre show strongly skews male, bad!"
showrunner: "We'll get the female viewers you demand by eliminating the lead character's social deficits and putting her in a romance!"
network exec: "Perfect!"

Unsurprising side effect: more male viewers (who liked the original premise, don't care about romance plots, or active avoid shows with them) leave than female viewers added

This effect on genre shows (make change in an effort to attract women, followed by lower overall ratings) is very consistent in the (admittedly limited) data I've seen. I've never understood, other than for reasons of political correctness, why male-skewed audiences are bad.
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Old 09-28-17, 01:10 PM   #1067
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That show was awful. Just awful.
Yeah. The only time it get good was the last two episodes. Had they kept it in a Cthulhu-type event it could have been awesome. Changing it to a "killed by your dreams & fears" was a really dumb choice.
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Old 09-28-17, 01:34 PM   #1068
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Was Chicago Med cancelled? I don't see any info about the new season starting.
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Old 09-28-17, 01:36 PM   #1069
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Was Chicago Med cancelled? I don't see any info about the new season starting.
Chicago Med was bumped to midseason by This Is Us.
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Old 09-28-17, 01:39 PM   #1070
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Gotcha, thanks. Glad to hear it's not dead like Justice.
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Old 09-28-17, 01:45 PM   #1071
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Gotcha, thanks. Glad to hear it's not dead like Justice.
I believe Med is actually returning after Law and Order True Crime ends. That show is only 8 episodes. Med should be back around mid-November.

That's actually good because there will be less breaks.
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Old 09-28-17, 04:18 PM   #1072
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Here's my take on Stitchers:

network exec: "genre show strongly skews male, bad!"
showrunner: "We'll get the female viewers you demand by eliminating the lead character's social deficits and putting her in a romance!"
network exec: "Perfect!"

Unsurprising side effect: more male viewers (who liked the original premise, don't care about romance plots, or active avoid shows with them) leave than female viewers added

This effect on genre shows (make change in an effort to attract women, followed by lower overall ratings) is very consistent in the (admittedly limited) data I've seen. I've never understood, other than for reasons of political correctness, why male-skewed audiences are bad.
It happens more often than you think. Most commercial advertising outside of very niche audiences (sports) is aimed at women. Practically the only big advertisers that aim at men are Viagra-like drugs and beer. Scripted television that skews male is anathema to most network executives. It's why the networks largely gave up on "hard" sci-fi years ago, because it skews heavily male.
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Old 09-28-17, 05:04 PM   #1073
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It happens more often than you think. Most commercial advertising outside of very niche audiences (sports) is aimed at women. Practically the only big advertisers that aim at men are Viagra-like drugs and beer. Scripted television that skews male is anathema to most network executives.
Any hope you had of a female-skewed audience should have been squashed by audience testing. The mere fact that a show has a female lead doesn't change that, and as we have seen deliberately courting a female audience in these genres usually loses more male audience than you gain in female audience. In that light why do they bother?
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It's why the networks largely gave up on "hard" sci-fi years ago, because it skews heavily male.
The only hard sci-fi show I can think of right now is The Expanse. I'm somewhat surprised it's still going. Ascension was another recent attempt.
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Old 09-29-17, 04:38 AM   #1074
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http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news/2...-493112/12283/

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Old 10-03-17, 01:23 PM   #1075
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Since it's that time of the season. Some 2nd week results for last night (demo ratings):

Big Bang Theory went from a 4.1 last week to a 3.0 last night, 9JKL pulled a 1.6, Kevin Can Wait a 1.4, and Me Myself and I a 1.0

The Voice was down .1 from 2.6 to 2.5, The Brave pulled a 1.2 (Down 0.1)

The Good Doctor went up .2 to 2.4, Dancing with the Stars got a 1.6

Lucifer had a 1.1, The Gifted got a 1.5
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