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Old 05-12-16, 07:45 PM
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Bummer on Grinder, at least they aired the full season.
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Cooper Barrett's Guide to Surviving Life wasn't a great show or anything but showed more promise than most freshman comedies these days. The cast is great.

Disney canceling the Muppets would pretty much mean the end of that brand on network television forever. I know the ratings have been rotten and they have no faith in the showrunners, but I think it still comes back for branding reasons.
Those were my two favorite new shows of the past season. Too bad that both of them got the axe. Hopefully, Fox burns off the last of the Cooper Barretts soon.
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http://deadline.com/2016/05/dr-ken-r...bc-1201754949/

Dr. Ken renewed by ABC
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FYI
Stay away from the website TVBYTheNumbers.com

Unless you want to torture yourself with stupid commentary about all these renewals and cancellations. I really really hate that site and all the dumb commentators on it.
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Starting next week. Up fronts for the big networks are next week.
Ah, thanks! i thought it was today or tomorrow since this is clearly cancel/renewal day lol
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The Grinder was cancelled. Fuck you, Fox.
Seconded
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Originally Posted by DJariya View Post
http://deadline.com/2016/05/chicago-...es-1201754654/

Chicago Justice starring Philip Winchester picked up to series by NBC. It's a spinoff of Chicago PD.
I give zero fucks about these Chicago shows but I may have to watch this because of Winchester.
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I give zero fucks about these Chicago shows but I may have to watch this because of Winchester.
Also stars Carl Weathers.

The backdoor pilot actually aired last night on Chicago PD.
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Originally Posted by DJariya View Post
http://deadline.com/2016/05/the-grin...on-1201752235/

The Grinder, Grandfathered, Bordertown and Cooper Barrett all got the axe by FOX.
It's a surprise both The Grinder and Grandfathered got cut, most thought one of the two would survive at Fox.

I believe a streaming place will look into picking up The Grinder. It's the perfect property for a Hulu or Netflix.
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It's a surprise both The Grinder and Grandfathered got cut, most thought one of the two would survive at Fox.

I believe a streaming place will look into picking up The Grinder. It's the perfect property for a Hulu or Netflix.
I know The Grinder was a pretty underrated comedy and liked by a lot.

However, from a business standpoint, they had to cancel it. It's ratings were approaching hash marks. Last episode that aired (the finale) got 1.5M viewers. That's horrendous for a major network TV show.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...s-may-10-2016/

Comedy is so hit or miss. If it doesn't hit it out of the ball park right away like say a Modern Family, it's DOA.
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Wow, seriously? The meta nature of the season finale (Ken does standup and considers quitting medicine to "get his own show on TV") really felt like a series ender. Still, Dave Foley's great, and I don't mind another year of the wispy Krista Marie Yu
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I know The Grinder was a pretty underrated comedy and liked by a lot.

However, from a business standpoint, they had to cancel it. It's ratings were approaching hash marks. Last episode that aired (the finale) got 1.5M viewers. That's horrendous for a major network TV show.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...s-may-10-2016/

Comedy is so hit or miss. If it doesn't hit it out of the ball park right away like say a Modern Family, it's DOA.
Consistency in both ratings and quality are key, as long as it isn't "consistently declining."
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Annoyed at the grinder.. that show was good!
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On Fox: Sleepy Hollow renewed, Second Chance & Minority Report canceled.
http://deadline.com/2016/05/sleepy-h...ed-1201753911/

On NBC: Telenovela and Undateable canceled.
http://deadline.com/2016/05/telenove...bc-1201755300/
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Re: The One and Only TV FAQ Thread Plus Renewal and Cancellation News

Sleepy Hollow renewed for a 4th season. Minority Report officially cancelled.

http://deadline.com/2016/05/sleepy-h...ed-1201753911/


Telenovela and Undateable cancelled by NBC

http://deadline.com/2016/05/telenove...bc-1201755300/
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http://deadline.com/2016/05/game-of-...on-1201755479/

Game of Silence cancelled by NBC.

It's still airing and is scheduled to air into the summer.
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http://tvline.com/2016/05/13/last-ma...-season-6-abc/

Last Man Standing renewed by ABC for a 6th season
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More shows that no one watches here got cancelled:

Heartbeat (NBC)
Crowded (NBC)
Faking it (MTV)
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Originally Posted by DJariya View Post
Sleepy Hollow renewed for a 4th season. Minority Report officially cancelled.

http://deadline.com/2016/05/sleepy-h...ed-1201753911/

SNIP
I am surprised about Sleepy Hollow. It had terrible ratings, and had been on a steep decline in everything since its excellent season one. Losing
Nicole Beharie killed off any remaining interest I had in the show.

It's funny how some shows just skate by with bad ratings and others get shot down as fast as they can.
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Sad about Undateable.. I actually liked that show (in the same vein as Happy Endings, The Class, and Scrubs).

Very surprised about Sleepy Hollow... now I guess I need to finish watching the last 6 episodes of this season.
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Old 05-13-16, 07:21 PM
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Re: The One and Only TV FAQ Thread Plus Renewal and Cancellation News

http://deadline.com/2016/05/code-bla...bs-1201755760/

Code Black, Criminal Minds: Beyond Borders and Odd Couple are expected to be renewed. Not official yet.

Bad News however, Limitless is expected to be cancelled. CBS Studios will shop it elsewhere.
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Bad News however, Limitless is expected to be cancelled. CBS Studios will shop it elsewhere.
Could be a good fit on TNT or USA, though I suspect it'll end up on Netflix or Hulu.
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Networks are now looking for hits. Anything with weak ratings got killed off this year without a second thought. I think we are going to be seeing far more one-season shows going forward.

Network ratings are so anemic that it doesn't pay to keep a show around unless it's a proven winner out of the gate.
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Networks are now looking for hits. Anything with weak ratings got killed off this year without a second thought. I think we are going to be seeing far more one-season shows going forward.

Network ratings are so anemic that it doesn't pay to keep a show around unless it's a proven winner out of the gate.
Networks have always looked for hits. And contrary to popular belief, shows that get time to find an audience have always been the exception rather than the rule. Stories of shows like Cheers and Seinfeld, which started off with lackluster or even awful ratings only to become huge hits are rare, and for the most part, limited to those two shows.

The fact that FOX kept Sleepy Hollow around for a 4th season just shows that "hits" is a truly relative term. Sleepy Hollow was a "hit" for maybe the first season. It has been pretty horrible ever since. Of course syndication money comes into play here, which is how this show gets another season. That, or the pitch for what will be another reboot was really strong.

And really, it's syndication money that plays into a lot of these network decisions these days. It's not about hits as much as it's about "can we squeeze 4 seasons out of this show before it becomes a ratings black hole?"

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Castle cancelled by ABC. Mondays episode will be series finale. Wise move by ABC.

http://deadline.com/2016/05/castle-c...ns-1201750347/
Yep. Season 9 would have been a bad idea here. It seemed headed that way when Fillion was resigned.
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Old 05-14-16, 06:03 AM
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Networks have always looked for hits. And contrary to popular belief, shows that get time to find an audience have always been the exception rather than the rule. Stories of shows like Cheers and Seinfeld, which started off with lackluster or even awful ratings only to become huge hits are rare, and for the most part, limited to those two shows.

The fact that FOX kept Sleepy Hollow around for a 4th season just shows that "hits" is a truly relative term. Sleepy Hollow was a "hit" for maybe the first season. It has been pretty horrible ever since. Of course syndication money comes into play here, which is how this show gets another season. That, or the pitch for what will be another reboot was really strong.

And really, it's syndication money that plays into a lot of these network decisions these days. It's not about hits as much as it's about "can we squeeze 4 seasons out of this show before it becomes a ratings black hole?"
Also, the way content is viewed now in 2016 is so fractured. Many people view their content through alternative means like tablets, phones, laptops as opposed to sitting in front of a TV when the show is airing.

Regarding Sleepy Hollow, FOX has an exclusive license for the show on Hulu. Producing another 13-18 episodes for Hulu will be financially advantageous to them as opposed to dropping it even though the ratings cratered and it was moved to Friday.
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