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2014 Emmy Discussion Thread - 8/25/14 (NBC)

Nominees:

OUTSTANDING DRAMA
Breaking Bad
Downton Abbey
Game of Thrones
House of Cards
Mad Men
True Detective

OUTSTANDING COMEDY
The Big Bang Theory
Louie
Modern Family
Orange Is the New Black
Silicon Valley
Veep

OUTSTANDING ACTRESS IN A DRAMA
Lizzy Caplan, Masters of Sex
Kerry Washington, Scandal
Michelle Dockery, Downton Abbey
Julianna Margulies, The Good Wife
Claire Danes, Homeland
Robin Wright, House of Cards

OUTSTANDING ACTOR IN A DRAMA
Bryan Cranston, Breaking Bad
Jeff Daniels, The Newsroom
Jon Hamm, Mad Men
Woody Harrelson, True Detective
Matthew McConaughey, True Detective
Kevin Spacey, House of Cards

OUTSTANDING SUPPORTING ACTRESS IN A DRAMA
Anna Gunn, Breaking Bad
Maggie Smith, Downton Abbey
Joanne Froggatt, Downton Abbey
Lena Headey, Game of Thrones
Christine Baranski, The Good Wife
Christina Hendricks, Mad Men

OUTSTANDING SUPPORTING ACTOR IN A DRAMA
Aaron Paul, Breaking Bad
Jim Carter, Downton Abbey
Peter Dinklage, Game of Thrones
Josh Charles, The Good Wife
Mandy Patinkin, Homeland
Jon Voight, Ray Donovan

OUTSTANDING GUEST ACTRESS IN A DRAMA
Margo Martindale, The Americans
Diana Rigg, Game of Thrones
Kate Mara, House of Cards
Allison Janney, Masters of Sex
Jane Fonda, The Newsroom
Kate Burton, Scandal

OUTSTANDING GUEST ACTOR IN A DRAMA
Paul Giamatti, Downton Abbey
Dylan Baker, The Good Wife
Reg E Cathey, House of Cards
Robert Morse, Mad Men
Beau Bridges, Masters of Sex
Joe Morton, Scandal

OUTSTANDING ACTRESS IN A COMEDY
Lena Dunham, Girls
Edie Falco, Nurse Jackie
Julia Louis-Dreyfus, Veep
Melissa McCarthy, Mike & Molly
Amy Poehler, Parks and Recreation
Taylor Schilling, Orange Is the New Black

OUTSTANDING ACTOR IN A COMEDY
Louis CK, Louie
Don Cheadle, House of Lies
Ricky Gervais, Derek
Matt LeBlanc, Episodes
William H Macy, Shameless
Jim Parsons, The Big Bang Theory

OUTSTANDING SUPPORTING ACTRESS IN A COMEDY
Mayim Bialik, The Big Bang Theory
Julie Bowen, Modern Family
Allison Janney, Mom
Kate Mulgrew, Orange Is the New Black
Kate McKinnon, Saturday Night Live
Anna Chlumsky, Veep

OUTSTANDING SUPPORTING ACTOR IN A COMEDY
Andre Braugher, Brooklyn Nine-Nine
Adam Driver, Girls
Jesse Tyler Ferguson, Modern Family
Ty Burrell, Modern Family
Fred Armisen, Portlandia
Tony Hale, Veep

OUTSTANDING GUEST ACTRESS IN A COMEDY
Natasha Lyonne, Orange Is the New Black
Uzo Aduba, Orange Is the New Black
Laverne Cox, Orange Is the New Black
Tina Fey, Saturday Night Live
Melissa McCarthy, Saturday Night Live
Joan Cusack, Shameless

OUTSTANDING GUEST ACTOR IN A COMEDY
Bob Newhart, The Big Bang Theory
Nathan Lane, Modern Family
Steve Buscemi, Portlandia
Jimmy Fallon, Saturday Night Live
Louis C.K., Saturday Night Live
Gary Cole, Veep

OUTSTANDING REALITY SHOW HOST
Betty White, Betty White’s Off Their Rockers
Tom Bergeron, Dancing With the Stars
Jane Lynch, Hollywood Game Night
Heidi Klum/Tim Gunn, Project Runway
Cat Deeley, So You Think You Can Dance
Anthony Bourdain, The Taste

OUTSTANDING REALITY SHOW COMPETITION
The Amazing Race
Dancing With the Stars
Project Runway
So You Think You Can Dance
Top Chef
The Voice

OUTSTANDING VARIETY, MUSIC, OR COMEDY SERIES
The Colbert Report
The Daily Show with Jon Stewart
Jimmy Kimmel Live
Real Time with Bill Maher
Saturday Night Live
The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon

OUTSTANDING TV MINISERIES
American Horror Story: Coven
Bonnie & Clyde
Fargo
Luther
Treme
The White Queen

OUTSTANDING TV MOVIE
Killing Kennedy
Muhammad Ali’s Greatest Fight
The Normal Heart
Sherlock: His Last Vow
The Trip to Bountiful

LEAD ACTRESS IN A TV MINISERIES OR MOVIE
Helena Bonham Carter, Burton and Taylor
Jessica Lange, American Horror Story: Coven
Minnie Driver, Return to Zero
Sarah Paulson, American Horror Story: Coven
Cicely Tyson, The Trip to Bountiful
Kristen Wiig, The Spoils of Babylon

LEAD ACTOR IN A TV MINISERIES OR MOVIE
Benedict Cumberbatch, Sherlock: His Last Vow
Idris Elba, Luther
Chiwetel Ejiofor, Dancing On the Edge
Martin Freeman, Fargo
Billy Bob Thornton, Fargo
Mark Ruffalo, The Normal Heart

OUTSTANDING SUPPORTING ACTRESS IN A TV MINISERIES OR MOVIE
Frances Conroy, American Horror Story: Coven
Kathy Bates, American Horror Story: Coven
Angela Bassett, American Horror Story: Coven
Allison Tolman, Fargo
Ellen Burstyn, Flowers in the Attic
Julia Roberts, The Normal Heart

OUTSTANDING SUPPORTING ACTOR IN A TV MINISERIES OR MOVIE
Colin Hanks, Fargo
Jim Parsons, The Normal Heart
Joe Mantello, The Normal Heart
Alfred Molina, The Normal Heart
Matt Bomer, The Normal Heart
Martin Freeman, Sherlock: His Last Vow

No love for Brooklyn Nine-Nine in the major categories (though Andre Braugher was nominated), lots of love for Orange is the New Black , Outstanding Actor looks like an Oscar list I was curious why Laverne Cox and Natasha Lyonne were marked as "Guest Stars", I guess it makes sense from an awards perspective.

Gonna assume Cox is the first african american tranny to get a nomination from the Emmys. Probably hear about that in the next few days.

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Re: 2014 Emmy Discussion Thread

Not one nod for Hannibal.
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Hoping Breaking Bad cleans up in its last chance for awards.

Also great to see all the nods for Fargo. What a great show that was. Really hope Billy Bob Thornton wins as he was excellent in it.
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So, Emmy voters clearly know BBC America exists, as evidenced by the nominations for Luther, Idris Elba and Burton & Taylor, yet Tatiana Maslany, who has delivered two seasons of outstanding performances as multiple characters on Orphan Black, is ignored?

Not sure what to think of this repeated snub. Luther's ratings on BBC America were over 3 times less than Orphan Black S2, so if Emmy voters were aware of Luther, there's no way they couldn't be aware of Orphan Black and Maslany's performance.

Oh well, I guess she'll receive a Golden Globe nomination, just like last year.
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Re: 2014 Emmy Discussion Thread

Orange is the New Black is a comedy?
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Yeah...

Community and It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia both got nominations for Stunt Coordination

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Orange is the New Black is a comedy?
Yep. It's a "Dramedy" but more so a comedy with dramatic touches, just not broad sitcom comedy.

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Tatiana Maslany was better than at least 3 actresses in the Drama category - yet no nomination.

I don't get how they consider those actresses from Orange/Black and Joan Cusack from Shameless as "Guest" actresses when they're regulars on the show.
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It's all about how they're credited, I thought it was ridiculous as well considering they're in every episode. I actually think Maslany is rightfully not nominated but I've never thought much of Orphan Black as a whole which may make me a little bias (it honestly reminds me of the internet pushing the greatness of Firefly), but she does work her ass off.

There's a category for Special and Visual Effects in a Supporting Role...

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What will happen if Fargo comes back for a second season next year and another actor gives an incredible performance? Will it still be considered a miniseries?

I'm pulling for a Breaking Bad sweep. Disappointed that Brooklyn Nine-Nine didn't get more love.
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I'm surprised Dean Norris didn't get nommed for Breaking Bad.
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True Detective could have applied for mini-series as well. At what point is a mini-series a series or vice versa? If you have more than 4 'episodes' shouldn't that just be considered a series?

Loving all of the Game of Thrones love, especially Diana Rigg as the Queen of Thorns!
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What will happen if Fargo comes back for a second season next year and another actor gives an incredible performance? Will it still be considered a miniseries?

I'm pulling for a Breaking Bad sweep. Disappointed that Brooklyn Nine-Nine didn't get more love.
If they do a second season of Fargo they already said it'd be different characters / plotline, which would qualify it as a mini-series a la American Horror Story. Or the final season of Treme which is apparently considered a mini-series as well.
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What will happen if Fargo comes back for a second season next year and another actor gives an incredible performance? Will it still be considered a miniseries?
Yes, just like American Horror Story is going into its fourth season still submits as a mini. Or Treme being on for four seasons and subbed as a mini this year.

It's shady, but these things dove in to silliness a long time ago.

Can't believe Hannibal didn't even catch a whiff of any of the technical awards.
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I plan on binging through the second season of Orphan Black this weekend. Even without seeing it, I know Tatiana Maslany got robbed. If the first season is an indication, she could have been nominated for multiple awards for different characters.

I'm sure Breaking Bad will be the big winner of the night. I think the only major award BB won't win is Best Supporting Actor. Aaron Paul was great as usual but I think it'll go to Dinklage.
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If they do a second season of Fargo they already said it'd be different characters / plotline, which would qualify it as a mini-series a la American Horror Story. Or the final season of Treme which is apparently considered a mini-series as well.
Yeah, something doesn't jive.

True Detective is considered a drama, but AHS is considered a miniseries. Same revolving cast / anthology concept.

Fargo I can understand as being considered a miniseries since talk of Season 2 didn't start until the show was already airing, and it was intentionally a "limited series" to begin with.

The final season of Treme doesn't belong on there, though. Is it considered a miniseries because of its short season? Does that mean The Killing Season 4 could be a miniseries then?

I'd like to know how they determine what constitutes as what.
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Can't believe Hannibal didn't even catch a whiff of any of the technical awards.
It's the most visual show on TV. Someone must've slept on it, along with Mads Mikkelsen's performance. It'a a shame that show doesn't get more love. NBC renewing it for a third season was a miracle.
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How is Fred Armisen not considered a lead on Portlandia?
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Yeah, something doesn't jive.

True Detective is considered a drama, but AHS is considered a miniseries. Same revolving cast / anthology concept.
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There was a pretty big stink brought up with True Detective qualifying for Drama instead of Mini.
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Not one nod for Hannibal.
And a snub for James Spader
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Tatiana Maslany not getting an Emmy nomination means the entire thing is a joke. She's teaching a master class in character work every single episode. Ridiculous.
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Tatiana and Hannibal being snubbed makes me a very unhappy camper.
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There was a pretty big stink brought up with True Detective qualifying for Drama instead of Mini.
It was the studio's decision I believe, they could have had TD submitted for Mini.
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I'm more confused how Treme Season 4 is considered a mini-series.
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What is the Emmy calendar year, as far as eligibility?
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What is the Emmy calendar year, as far as eligibility?
June 1, 2013 - May 31, 2014

It's one of the reasons OITNB S2 came out in June.
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They do make exceptions though for shows that start in the eligibility period and extend past June 1 -- I remember that the series finale of The Sopranos came out in June, but was made eligible for the previous year's Emmy Awards so its run would all be encompassed in one year's eligibility; I assume Fargo is like that this year.

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