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Mad Men -- Mid-Season Finale -- "Waterloo" -- 5/25/14





Don receives a troubling letter. A risky venture entails a new future for Peggy. Roger gets an unexpected phone call. Pete butts heads with Cutler.

Written By: Carly Wray and Matthew Weiner

Directed By: Matthew Weiner


Episode 7 of 7


Yup, this is indeed the last episode of 2014. Expected to return in Spring 2015

A bunch of angry comments on the Mad Men Facebook page about this move.

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Re: Mad Men -- Mid-Season Finale -- "Waterloo" -- 5/25/14

I haven't been watching this half season other than the first episode. I think I might just start rewatching the entire series a few months before the premiere of the final episodes. I don't necessarily like how AMC handled the final seasons of this show and Breaking Bad, but I kind of understand why they do it. I think it would be better if the wait between wasn't so damn long. Especially on a series like Mad Men which as great as it is has kind of lost some of it's steam and would be nice to just finally see how it ends and put it to rest.
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Re: Mad Men -- Mid-Season Finale -- "Waterloo" -- 5/25/14

I've really liked the direction the show has taken this year. Season 6 was just too miserable, but I guess they have to have Don really hit rock bottom.

I am disappointed that it's going away again so quickly though.
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Old 05-25-14, 02:51 PM
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The episode leaked, so look out for spoilers
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The episode leaked, so look out for spoilers
It's just the mid-season finale. I'm sure nothing big happened.
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It's just the mid-season finale. I'm sure nothing big happened.
Ha! I wonder if you'll still think that after you've watched it.

The plane effects at the beginning are some of the absolute worst VFX I've seen on TV in a long, long time.
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Dat ending.
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Goddammit, Roger. You refused to take your shoes off, and it killed Burt.
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I didn't like the season that much but loved the finale.

That final scene was just great.
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The best things in life are free? Don having second thoughts about selling out to McCann?

I hate to see them sell out after all they've done to build up the agency. Also hate to see Joan cash in like this - her inability to forgive Don and lust for money has really turned me off of her. At the same time, I'm happy they can stick it to Cutler.

I could see Don being satisfied that he's "won" by outmaneuvering Cutler and now leaving the company on his own terms. I just can't see him working under McCann. Maybe he'll start a new agency with Peggy?
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I could see Don being satisfied that he's "won" by outmaneuvering Cutler and now leaving the company on his own terms. I just can't see him working under McCann. Maybe he'll start a new agency with Peggy?
Don is required to sign a five-year contract for the deal to happen, so no.
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Loved Roger kicking Harry out of the meeting

Kiernan Shipka nailed the Betty smoking pose.
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I still don't get why Joan has such a hate boner for Don. Yeah, he dumped Jaguar after she slept with the guy to get it, but Don told her not to do it in the first place.
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Don is required to sign a five-year contract for the deal to happen, so no.
My point is, now that he's "won" by outmaneuvering Cutler maybe he'll leave on his own terms (as in not sign the contract). I can't see him selling out to McCann.

Maybe he finds a way for the deal to continue without him.
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Re: Mad Men -- Mid-Season Finale -- "Waterloo" -- 5/25/14

Loved the sendoff for Bert. Very nicely done.

Overall, a really good finale. Agreed that Joan sucks with this Don hatred. Will actually be funny if he fucks her over by ditching it, somehow. Not so funny for Roger, though, and I suppose Pete. Plus, he can't possibly let Cutler get what he wants. That absolutely can not happen. Hmmm... That leads me to my next point...

Now I can go back to being pissed off at having to wait a year for the rest. Fuckers!
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hate to see Joan cash in like this - her inability to forgive Don and lust for money has really turned me off of her.
I made that comment while viewing, but I'm giving it time to percolate. They recapped why Joan is being this way. She whored herself for the agency with the sole redeeming factor being the money she'd eventually have, and then Don knocked over her pot of gold. It's still difficult for me to watch, though, because every other person was just fine with her whoring herself out -- they encouraged it even. Including the father of her child, whom she now speaks to with no problem and hugs when he's sad. Don was the only one saying, "We don't need the business that badly."

Also percolating... what the scene at the end meant. Was it just an Ode to Bert on the part of the producers, a Don moment, or something else?

I'm not remembering what, "A risky venture entails a new future for Peggy," referred to.
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I'm not remembering what, "A risky venture entails a new future for Peggy," referred to.
Peggy's first pitch to clients as the closer.

I liked it and will sorely miss Bert. Loved Roger's line about when old men start talking about Napoleon, they're about to die.

Very sad ending to Don's marriage even if we all knew it was inevitable. Liked Betty's line about thinking of Don as a failed old boyfriend.
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I made that comment while viewing, but I'm giving it time to percolate. They recapped why Joan is being this way. She whored herself for the agency with the sole redeeming factor being the money she'd eventually have, and then Don knocked over her pot of gold. It's still difficult for me to watch, though, because every other person was just fine with her whoring herself out -- they encouraged it even. Including the father of her child, whom she now speaks to with no problem and hugs when he's sad. Don was the only one saying, "We don't need the business that badly."
In the same episode he chased off Jaguar, Don also buried the IPO by unilaterally merging with CGC. That cost Joan, who doesn't have money, a lot of money. Joan hasn't forgiven him since that episode.
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Loved that Roger stepped up and took control. He didn't like the way things were shaping up with Bert and Don gone so he created his own direction. One where he gets to keep his friend in house and screw over Jim who was a jackass when Bert died. Perhaps he was never a leader because he always had a father figure there to take charge.

Hopefully they get rid of Jim and make Lou a tag writer until his contract is up.

So tired of Joan. We get it she is upset at Don but on the flip side she is too dumb to realize that sometimes you need to keep talented people around that you don't like because they are talented.

Good half season, hopefully the second half will be as good.
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That was quite a sendoff for Bert.
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How special to have that old song and dance man, Robert Morse, close out on such a beautiful scene.

If you've never seen, please watch, How to Succeed In Business Without Really Trying..
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Also percolating... what the scene at the end meant. Was it just an Ode to Bert on the part of the producers, a Don moment, or something else?

I'm not remembering what, "A risky venture entails a new future for Peggy," referred to.
Although it might have been a nice "send off", was Don supposed to be hallucinating? He was obviously confused, and he didn't have a hot tooth this time. This isn't Twin Peaks - the last scene was very out-of-place.

Also, trying to decipher their summaries and previews is a lost cause.
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I'm also in the camp that this half-season was a slog, but it started to turn itself around when Pete-Peggy-Don ate at Burger Chef. So this was great.

Roger taking the piss out Jim -- and Harry Hamlin doesn't get enough credit on how great he's been here -- and killing Harry's partnership was masterful.

I can see Ted and Don only doing work they really love and let Peggy run a lot of the show. Don may even bring back Freddie to replace Ginsburg.

However, so tired of Joan's venom. That character has become so one note. And Weiner couldn't divest himself of Betty when that character began serving little purpose on the show, I assume the same for Megan even with seven episodes left.
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And Weiner couldn't divest himself of Betty when that character began serving little purpose on the show, I assume the same for Megan even with seven episodes left.
The difference is that Betty is still shaping the person Sally is becoming, and the show was still invested in Sally's relationship with Don. Betty had to be around in some capacity if only to further that. They've used her fairly sparingly since season 3 though. I think she was only in three of the seven episodes this year.

While I doubt we've seen the last of Megan, I don't think she'll be getting a major storyline next year.

Read Sepinwall's review, and I have to admit that I didn't at all recognize Kellie Martin (she played Betty's friend).
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