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Mad Men -- "The Monolith" -- 5/04/14

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Re: Mad Men -- "The Monolith" -- 5/04/14

Originally Posted by anomynous
I thought they shot them all?
No, Weiner was just on NPR's Fresh Air last week and he said they still had the last few episodes left to shoot and he was still writing that last couple episodes, so not quite, as he's not even done writing everything.

I did not care for the whole bit with Roger's daughter at all, but I supposed that was their way of getting him out of the office so Don would have no one to go to for getting a new client.

Speaking of which, I didn't quite understand what Don was trying to say to that computer guy when he was drunk.
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Re: Mad Men -- "The Monolith" -- 5/04/14

Don was making a lot of Biblical references, essentially calling the IBM guy the devil.
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Re: Mad Men -- "The Monolith" -- 5/04/14

Originally Posted by Crocker Jarmen
You think so? I thought Peggy was terrified of being a superior to Don right from the start. She did her best to act professional and run things the way she was supposed to, but I never got the sense she enjoyed having "power" over big baby Don.
I got the feeling she was nervous and a little frightened throughout the meeting, but when Don and the other guy were dismissed - Peggy gave a nice little smirk indicating she enjoyed the position she had over Don.
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Re: Mad Men -- "The Monolith" -- 5/04/14

loved the carousel song at the end... they always use the best songs at the best times...

just re-watched the kodak 'carousel' episode....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suRDUFpsHus

the key delivery is above
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Re: Mad Men -- "The Monolith" -- 5/04/14

Originally Posted by Crocker Jarmen
Don was making a lot of Biblical references, essentially calling the IBM guy the devil.
I got what he was saying, but not quite why he was saying it, besides being drunk.
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Re: Mad Men -- "The Monolith" -- 5/04/14

Originally Posted by slop101
I got what he was saying, but not quite why he was saying it, besides being drunk.
Don is an old-fashioned guy (witness the fact that he still wears a hat in 1969!). The computer, to his mind, represents a lot that is wrong with the way his world has changed over the course of the series, crowding out his thoughtful, artistic creativity with mass-produced tags and scientific analysis of the optimum advertising approach.
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Re: Mad Men -- "The Monolith" -- 5/04/14

Originally Posted by slop101
I got what he was saying, but not quite why he was saying it, besides being drunk.
Exactly, me too.
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Re: Mad Men -- "The Monolith" -- 5/04/14

Originally Posted by Coral
I got the feeling she was nervous and a little frightened throughout the meeting, but when Don and the other guy were dismissed - Peggy gave a nice little smirk indicating she enjoyed the position she had over Don.
I didn't notice that. I'll watch for it again, as Mad Man is a show I'll actually watch a second time before the next week's episode (also do for Community and if was a nudity heavy episode, Game of Thrones)
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Re: Mad Men -- "The Monolith" -- 5/04/14

Originally Posted by JasonF
Don is an old-fashioned guy (witness the fact that he still wears a hat in 1969!). The computer, to his mind, represents a lot that is wrong with the way his world has changed over the course of the series, crowding out his thoughtful, artistic creativity with mass-produced tags and scientific analysis of the optimum advertising approach.
The irony is that the computer won't ultimate beat the creative types (that got pushed out of their workspace). It will ultimately beat the Harry Crane types.
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It's amazing that this show can make it tense whether or not Don was going to get caught drunk, where you can have a shootout in another show not as tense. I guess you know no one is getting shot on most action shows, but Don might get his shares absorbed.
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Re: Mad Men -- "The Monolith" -- 5/04/14

Originally Posted by Crocker Jarmen
I also like how people are offended Bert and others are trying to force Don out, when Don Draper has to be the most loathsome character in the history of television. I literally cannot think of one decent thing I've ever seen him do.
He is hardly the most loathsome character in television history and he did help Peggy out when she needed someone.
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Re: Mad Men -- "The Monolith" -- 5/04/14

Don can be a pretty shitty dude most of the time. People confuse him with how likable Jon Ham is and cut him more slack than they do with other characters.
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Re: Mad Men -- "The Monolith" -- 5/04/14

With characters like Joffrey (among others) in Game of Thrones, Don is nowhere near the most loathsome character in the history of television. He's not a malicious guy. He's just selfish, which is a trait he shares with pretty much the rest of the humanity. It's a matter of degree.

I think we can make a case that Don isn't even the most loathsome character on the show. Let's compare Don to Roger. Go.
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Re: Mad Men -- "The Monolith" -- 5/04/14

It could also be said as lousy a father as Don is; he's still the better parent.
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Originally Posted by MikahC
With characters like Joffrey (among others) in Game of Thrones, Don is nowhere near the most loathsome character in the history of television. He's not a malicious guy. He's just selfish, which is a trait he shares with pretty much the rest of the humanity. It's a matter of degree.

I think we can make a case that Don isn't even the most loathsome character on the show. Let's compare Don to Roger. Go.
Gaius Baltar, betrayer of the human race, gets my vote for most loathsome tv character of all time.
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Re: Mad Men -- "The Monolith" -- 5/04/14

Originally Posted by cleaver
Gaius Baltar, betrayer of the human race, gets my vote for most loathsome tv character of all time.
But he redeemed himself at the end.
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But he redeemed himself at the end.
Did he? How the hell did that even end? I think I purposely forgot.

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