Game of Thrones -- "Oathkeeper" -- 4/27/14
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "Oathkeeper" -- 4/27/14
I don't think they're so much "passing" the books, as the show's writers (along with GRRM) are making a more polished final draft of the books that's tighter and more coherent.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "Oathkeeper" -- 4/27/14
I really liked the explanations of Joffrey's death, I too don't think it was obvious to anyone who hadn't read the books short of those screen caps online.
I still don't really feel much for those white walker things, or know the difference between what they showed versus a wight that you guys mentioned, so whatever they do to babies didn't come off as that amazing or awesome for me. To me, those creatures feel a bit detached from the rest of the universe so it feels a little awkward and still not some huge threat.
I still don't really feel much for those white walker things, or know the difference between what they showed versus a wight that you guys mentioned, so whatever they do to babies didn't come off as that amazing or awesome for me. To me, those creatures feel a bit detached from the rest of the universe so it feels a little awkward and still not some huge threat.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "Oathkeeper" -- 4/27/14
Think of wights (undead that are controlled) as SOLDIERS, the white walkers on horses as CAPOS and the more intelligent white walkers at the end of the scene as BOSSES.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "Oathkeeper" -- 4/27/14
Who is the big boss?
I love this show, much more so than the book because the last 2 books were so awful. I like most of the changes as well, making this a much tighter, more gripping tale.
I love this show, much more so than the book because the last 2 books were so awful. I like most of the changes as well, making this a much tighter, more gripping tale.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "Oathkeeper" -- 4/27/14
I have only read the first book...but I feel like the Whitewalkers are honestly the real threat when we're talking about Westeros, perhaps the true antagonists. That's just a guess.
A more educated guess (not really any book spoilers, as this is all just conjecture...):
A more educated guess (not really any book spoilers, as this is all just conjecture...):
Spoiler:
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "Oathkeeper" -- 4/27/14
I have only read the first book...but I feel like the Whitewalkers are honestly the real threat when we're talking about Westeros, perhaps the true antagonists. That's just a guess.
A more educated guess (not really any book spoilers, as this is all just conjecture...):
A more educated guess (not really any book spoilers, as this is all just conjecture...):
Spoiler:
Spoiler:
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "Oathkeeper" -- 4/27/14
The whole concept of the Night's Watch is we'll forget allegiances, crimes, social standing, or whatever. Just join the Night's Watch. Because we're not screwing around here. It won't matter who is sitting on the Iron Throne if the wall is breached. That's not me talking. That's what we've been told.
All the threats are "real", but some are more significant to mankind than others.
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Does Dany even have the desire to sit on the Iron Throne? I know she's talked about it in the past, but it seems she's far more interested in freeing slaves in Essos than in anything that's happening in Westeros. Two seasons ago she was looking for boats to cross the Narrow Sea, but it's been a long time since she's even mentioned that, I think. I don't know what her end-game is any more. Unlike Tywin, for example (or even her late brother), she doesn't seem that driven by family pride and honor to rule. Bram's vision of a dragon shadow over King's Landing certainly implies an invasion by her people, but I never get the feeling that's what she's after anymore.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "Oathkeeper" -- 4/27/14
I haven't read any of the books, but the characters in the know on the show have told us this. From very early on, we see this 700 foot high (that's more than 2 football fields high) manmade wall that goes from sea to shining sea because what's North of it is that bad. And not just the wildlings. Periodically, characters have made various comments about what's up there, including some thoughts (hopes?) that it's basically fairytale. But it isn't.
The whole concept of the Night's Watch is we'll forget allegiances, crimes, social standing, or whatever. Just join the Night's Watch. Because we're not screwing around here. It won't matter who is sitting on the Iron Throne if the wall is breached. That's not me talking. That's what we've been told.
All the threats are "real", but some are more significant to mankind than others.
The whole concept of the Night's Watch is we'll forget allegiances, crimes, social standing, or whatever. Just join the Night's Watch. Because we're not screwing around here. It won't matter who is sitting on the Iron Throne if the wall is breached. That's not me talking. That's what we've been told.
All the threats are "real", but some are more significant to mankind than others.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "Oathkeeper" -- 4/27/14
White walkers look like emaciated Frost Giants from Asgard.
I too think that the outcome of the series can be guessed by the overall "Song of Ice and Fire". It makes sense with the more one learns and thinks.
In terms of Dany
Spoilerized even though it's all speculation. You never know.
I too think that the outcome of the series can be guessed by the overall "Song of Ice and Fire". It makes sense with the more one learns and thinks.
In terms of Dany
Spoiler:
Spoilerized even though it's all speculation. You never know.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "Oathkeeper" -- 4/27/14
White walkers look like emaciated Frost Giants from Asgard.
I too think that the outcome of the series can be guessed by the overall "Song of Ice and Fire". It makes sense with the more one learns and thinks.
In terms of Dany
Spoilerized even though it's all speculation. You never know.
I too think that the outcome of the series can be guessed by the overall "Song of Ice and Fire". It makes sense with the more one learns and thinks.
In terms of Dany
Spoiler:
Spoilerized even though it's all speculation. You never know.
Spoiler:
Last edited by Canis Firebrand; 04-29-14 at 07:13 PM.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "Oathkeeper" -- 4/27/14
Does Dany even have the desire to sit on the Iron Throne? I know she's talked about it in the past, but it seems she's far more interested in freeing slaves in Essos than in anything that's happening in Westeros. Two seasons ago she was looking for boats to cross the Narrow Sea, but it's been a long time since she's even mentioned that, I think. I don't know what her end-game is any more. Unlike Tywin, for example (or even her late brother), she doesn't seem that driven by family pride and honor to rule. Bram's vision of a dragon shadow over King's Landing certainly implies an invasion by her people, but I never get the feeling that's what she's after anymore.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "Oathkeeper" -- 4/27/14
This season, number four, will adapt the rest of the third book,"A Storm of Swords," and then seasons five, six, and seven will condense the over-arcing storyline of the final four novels down into a more compact and coherent narrative by dropping all of the new characters and side-stories and resolving the major conflicts (ie, the White Walkers, the war for the Iron Throne, etc.).
You can sort of see them doing this by giving the Edric Storm storyline to Gendry last season. I expect more of the same in the final seasons.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "Oathkeeper" -- 4/27/14
Well, we've never been that far north of the wall in the books as we were in the final scene (im assuming we were in THE LAND OF ALWAYS WINTER) so we did pass the books