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Old 03-27-14, 02:23 PM
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End of an Era: Television Without Pity to close

Loved this place for many of their TV recaps.

Originally started visiting when it was Mighty Big TV

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It was announced today that NBCUniversal would be closing down two venerable digital properties next week: Daily Candy and Television Without Pity.

In particular, Television Without Pity — TWoP in the parlance of our times, and for brevity's sake, because if today's news has taught us anything, it's that time is fleeting and nothing lasts forever —had a huge impact on the internet landscape and in particular the way that television was covered. Beginning in the late '90s as Dawson's Wrap (making Dawson's Creek the unlikely mother of an entire movement in TV criticism) and later as Mighty Big TV, the TWoP stock in trade was the TV recap, impossibly detailed summaries of individual TV episodes of everything from ER to Buffy the Vampire Slayer to Project Runway. Written not only for detail but for humor and fan engagement, they became, for a time, the way we talked about TV on the internet.
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Originally Posted by superdeluxe View Post
Loved this place for many of their TV recaps.
Yep, great recaps. I think I stopped frequenting their forum when I started visiting here.

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Sucks. I was always kind of intimidated by those recaps, though.
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This is big news in television circles. I never really visited the site very much but knew of it by reputation, probably the biggest site where one could discuss current television episodes.
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I never posted there because their episode threads were just too big to read. I thought the forums were still very popular?
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I never posted there because their episode threads were just too big to read. I thought the forums were still very popular?
They were bought out by NBC Universal in 2007, I'm guessing it was no longer selling enough ad revenue?
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That sucks. I will miss them. I've spent way more time than I should have reading their recaps. Even the ones I disagreed with were usually at least amusing.
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Yeah, I've spent plenty of time on their recaps and also in their forums, for shows that didn't generate much talk here or on other boards i frequent. I'm very sorry to hear they're shutting down.
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They were bought out by NBC Universal in 2007, I'm guessing it was no longer selling enough ad revenue?
My guess is that the site was probably doing well enough to support itself but a corporation the size of Universal/Comcast/etc. has much greater ROI demands than simply breaking even. They probably got squeezed due to corporate demands.
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I spent a ton of time there back in the day but I got too tired of the overly critical nature of the recaps (and especially the forums). Some great insight for a few of the shows and we had one of the writers on the talk show I produce a few times and he was great (M. Giant) but I watch TV shows because I like them, not because I want to tear them apart. So I stopped visiting the site years ago.
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After here, televisionwithoutpity is my favorite on-line community. Bummed out to hear this. I hope the content stays on-line for awhile, as I enjoy going back and reading threads on older shows I'm just starting to watch now.
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Originally Posted by Crocker Jarmen View Post
After here, televisionwithoutpity is my favorite on-line community. Bummed out to hear this. I hope the content stays on-line for awhile, as I enjoy going back and reading threads on older shows I'm just starting to watch now.
I'm hearing it's a hard close on 4/4 with no archive.

That part in and of itself makes me think somebody up in the corporate hierarchy hates the site the way Don Ohlmeyer hated Norm Macdonald.
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Aaron Sorkin won't be sad to see the site go away.
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I'm hearing it's a hard close on 4/4 with no archive.

That part in and of itself makes me think somebody up in the corporate hierarchy hates the site the way Don Ohlmeyer hated Norm Macdonald.
Can't someone just download everything?
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There are probably intellectual property issues with that.
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I never even knew that place even existed. So... ?
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So TWOP is still closing, but just saw some promising news:

IMPORTANT UPDATE:

We have bad news for the producers of the past decade and a half's worst TV shows, but good news for our fans: TWoP's archives will stay up.
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Boo.

IMDB is probably the best place now to find "forums" for each show.
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There are a couple of places like Fanforum and Mediablvd. But they don't/didn't have the pull that TWOP has.
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Wow. I used to read the site way back when it was Dawson's Wrap.
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At least we still have tvtome and jumptheshar-OOOOOOOH FUCK.
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I believe that social media sites like Twitter probably killed off television discussion sites. Notice how little new blood shows up around here? People under 25 simply go on Twitter and post a dumb hashtag for their favorite shows.
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Now all of those bitter, often times downright nasty people that post in the forums will have to go elsewhere.
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I tried to participate in their forums. The few times I did moderators kept messaging me to say I was violating rules. Still not sure how that one works. Contributing to a discussion in an open forum is counter to the rules??

Anyway, deleted the bookmark and never visited again. Been using DVDTALK exclusively since.
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A lot of the TWoP community are migrating over to previously.tv -- a site created by some former TWoP recappers and mods.

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