True Detective -- "After You've Gone" -- 3/02/14
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Funny, I actually liked the closing line by the lawnmower man. Interesting to see the mixed reactions. Then again, I'm a crime fiction buff and am familiar with Pizzolatto's previous work so it seemed fitting.
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I didn't dislike it, it added to the weirdness. But it certainly reminds me of Looney Tunes where Bugs would be alone and be like "He don't know me very well do he?"
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Also, a couple interesting articles posted this week.
EW write-up of the lawnmower man theory and its potential link to Stephen King. Pretty far-fetched and it rambles quite a bit, so will just post the link.
McConaughey's 4 stages of Rust Cohle from MM himself:
http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/n...cohle-20140304
EW write-up of the lawnmower man theory and its potential link to Stephen King. Pretty far-fetched and it rambles quite a bit, so will just post the link.
McConaughey's 4 stages of Rust Cohle from MM himself:
http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/n...cohle-20140304
1995 Cohle
"Back to being a part of the body. He's coming off of years being Crash. He's trying to walk the line. Monk-like. Trying to hold it together. And that's a lot easier with less interaction with others. There's a mechanical side to him. He needs the regimen of the homicide detective. He needs the case to actually survive. One, because he's great at it. And two, because it's going to keep him from killing himself."
Crash
"He's our deep, narco wild-ass. A guy who goes all the way. This is where Cohle has all the freedom. He can go over the edge as this guy. And inside, he loves the life of Crash even more, because the shackles are off of him. He knows he may die sooner living this life, but there's a freedom and peace in that knowledge for him."
2002 Cohle
"A little looser mix of Crash and the '95 Cohle. A guy who's made his boundaries clear and has to mark less territory, so he's relaxed into his way in the world. But the case is still his lifeline. He has some small hope that there's going to be a way out of his being and pain and criticism, so he makes an effort into domesticity, a la the girlfriend. Only to prove that he was not made for it, and there is no way out. So what does he do? He resigns to his nature, once again."
2012 Cohle.
"This guy lived longer than he hoped. Fallen prey to his own beliefs. More cynical, angrier, he's had to endure the existence of this shitstorm called life. A little ragged, more rough edges, living in a place where he can manage himself. Not too close. He's not in the CID. But he's not in Alaska. He's a guy who's resigned to his indentured servitude of being alive. But he despises the sentence and the penance. He will not accept defeat. He's not going become a madman, he's not going to kill himself. He wrestles the devil every day, and he realizes that this may last a lot longer than he ever hoped for."
"Back to being a part of the body. He's coming off of years being Crash. He's trying to walk the line. Monk-like. Trying to hold it together. And that's a lot easier with less interaction with others. There's a mechanical side to him. He needs the regimen of the homicide detective. He needs the case to actually survive. One, because he's great at it. And two, because it's going to keep him from killing himself."
Crash
"He's our deep, narco wild-ass. A guy who goes all the way. This is where Cohle has all the freedom. He can go over the edge as this guy. And inside, he loves the life of Crash even more, because the shackles are off of him. He knows he may die sooner living this life, but there's a freedom and peace in that knowledge for him."
2002 Cohle
"A little looser mix of Crash and the '95 Cohle. A guy who's made his boundaries clear and has to mark less territory, so he's relaxed into his way in the world. But the case is still his lifeline. He has some small hope that there's going to be a way out of his being and pain and criticism, so he makes an effort into domesticity, a la the girlfriend. Only to prove that he was not made for it, and there is no way out. So what does he do? He resigns to his nature, once again."
2012 Cohle.
"This guy lived longer than he hoped. Fallen prey to his own beliefs. More cynical, angrier, he's had to endure the existence of this shitstorm called life. A little ragged, more rough edges, living in a place where he can manage himself. Not too close. He's not in the CID. But he's not in Alaska. He's a guy who's resigned to his indentured servitude of being alive. But he despises the sentence and the penance. He will not accept defeat. He's not going become a madman, he's not going to kill himself. He wrestles the devil every day, and he realizes that this may last a lot longer than he ever hoped for."
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I thought completed sentence was fine. After 7 fucking episodes to see it fall into place was awesome. Also, to see that some people can't come to grips that "spaghetti face" has been revealed tells you something. It's obvious that episode 8 will be in resolution/conclusion…maybe.
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Here's another take on the yellow king theory. Got a good laugh out of this.
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I've been laughing at this one for two days:
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I'm hoping the lawnmower guy isn't the spaghetti man. I had pictured a lot more scarring, and wasn't he supposed to be really tall?
Also, my girlfriend has been talking about this lawnmower guy, and I have been rolling my eyes. Yes he was creepy, but I figured he was a red herring. I'm really disappointed if they actually go that way.
Also, my girlfriend has been talking about this lawnmower guy, and I have been rolling my eyes. Yes he was creepy, but I figured he was a red herring. I'm really disappointed if they actually go that way.
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Re: True Detective -- "After You've Gone" -- 3/02/14
As I review and ready myself for the finale I have a question:
- which ep did we first learn about someone being chased by the "green eared spaghetti monster"?
- which ep had Marty's daughter with the creepy Barbie doll tableau?
- which ep did we first learn about someone being chased by the "green eared spaghetti monster"?
- which ep had Marty's daughter with the creepy Barbie doll tableau?
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I think those are both in the first or second episode.
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I half expected the lawnmowers man's last line in this episode to be, "George Remus' family has been around for a long, long time."
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Also I stand corrected about the descriptor for him, since the "Spaghetti" guy was described as tall, (but not "really tall") in this episode.
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Re: True Detective -- "After You've Gone" -- 3/02/14
I watched the first two episodes when they aired but then was distracted by other things. I finally watched 3-7 tonight, and after such a long break was a bit lost as I didn't remember the early problems with Hart's daughter or mention of the "spaghetti monster". Also, I just had to go back and replay the end of this episode a few times. The scars on the lawnmower guy didn't seem that obvious to me, but I guess they're there.
Is the Tuttle that was the head of the task force at the beginning of the series the one that ended up dying a few years before present day? I can't remember names very well…
Fantastic show, and McConaughey and Harrelson are captivating together. It's too bad they won't be back for season 2 - MM anyway.
Is the Tuttle that was the head of the task force at the beginning of the series the one that ended up dying a few years before present day? I can't remember names very well…
Fantastic show, and McConaughey and Harrelson are captivating together. It's too bad they won't be back for season 2 - MM anyway.
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Yes, that's the same Tuttle. Cohle also payed him a visit at his office in the 2002 timeline if you remember.