smg669

Regarding the security camera footage in e02:

slop101

Exactly!

Baron Of Hell

I don't think that is Frank in your picture. Looks like a guy in pants and shirt.

slop101

That's not the point. The point is that if you keep watching that footage, someone (Frank) will end up walking out from behind there, seconds after the hit.

smg669

What this guy said.

Also, there's no way a reasonable person would be able to look at that security footage and

Raul3

I had to watch the scene again in my computer. That's a good complain.

Neil M.

You guys are way too critical of something that may come back in the next season. There is nothing in the video that shows that she was pushed or even touched by someone. Someone walking from behind a few seconds later would not look suspicious if you thought someone committed suicide or tripped.

smg669

Really? I hope you're not the detective on the case when I get murdered.

Neil M.

Yes really. Even if they identified that person, they would never be able to prove that she was pushed.

slop101

The fact that she's standing there, visibly talking aloud, moved quickly behind the fence the immediately falls the opposite direction she was going? No way any cop would buy that. I'm just saying it'd be more believable if there wasn't any security footage at all. That they have even part of it on camera and decide there was no one else there and that she tripped is amateur hour.

~~ PAL ~~

Everyone here already came in with the knowledge of "a murder" while looking at that track footage. For an overworked homicide detective at the murder capital there really is not enough to pursue. In fact, Lucas Goodwin's behest of a massive conspiracy and cover up involving the US Vice President probably served more as a deterrent than encouragement for someone with no dog in the fight...

The footage itself showed no acts of foul play, as it was conveniently blocked from camera. The images of an unknown person walking away from "The Accident" several seconds later on the opposite side of the track, while suspicious and somewhat questionable, is not solid evidence that a murder just took place. For argument's sake what if that was just some random person who happen to be deaf or had earphones on, who never witnessed or heard the incident, and therefore just kept on walking as if nothing was happening?

Regarding how the same incident went down in the BBC mini series:

Neil M.

You guys act like police are so eager to keep cases opened based on circumstantial evidence. There were two witnesses that said they believed she fell, including the conductor. That plus the video, where I doubt you'd be able to see her even moving her lips, is all the police would need to close a case. But personally, I think this video will come back in a future season.

Raul3

Well yeah, this is not CSI, or something like that, where they have super HD cameras than zoom and get all the details. These are real security cameras where all the video looks grainy and you can't see shit.

But as I mentioned before, watching that scene again, episode 1, it starts around the minute 33, try in your computer, I think people complaining have a valid point. I just try to go with it and not think too much about it.

devilshalo

This season does seem to go by quick...

Neil M.

I wish i could do this with the Meachum scene in episode 11. I think the Vice President murdering someone in the subway and getting away with it was far more believable than that scene.

Merkin Muffley

One thing about Lucas really bugs me.

slop101

No it didn't.

Neil M.

Huh?

slop101

Yeah, Merkin,

Overall, I think binge watching works in this show's favor, because if you take a week between episodes to let it digest and sink in (like, say, True Detective, Game of Thrones, Mad Men, Justified, etc.), then you'd see how the actual show is a house of cards, and that it is rather preposterous and wafer-thin junk. Fun and well made, but junk all the same.

Neil M.

I agree. In a lot of ways, it reminds me of the early seasons of Dexter. The material is perfect for Kevin Spacey, who I always felt was a hammy actor to begin with. This is really the perfect role for him.

Jimmy James

I think calling this show junk is way too harsh. Is it all a bit transparent and thin like a card? Yes. That's part of the commentary, particularly about politics in this era.

bluetoast

I've only seen episode one, so:

movieking

I've watched all of season two. My guess for season three:

Neil M.

I'm thinking the same thing.

~~ PAL ~~

The three Michael Dobbs books with FU as the central figure are titled "House of Cards", "To Play the King", and "The Final Cut". The first two seasons covered the first two books. There should be enough materials for a third and possibly fourth season, assuming Netflix and the talent involved are all on board to bring it to a conclusion.