Jason

That's a far better question than why did the bus leave.

Uh, because of a bunch of homicidal dickheads in a tank, maybe?

Preterite

After a busy week, I've finally caught up with the mid-season finale. Random thoughts while watching:

• Nice to see that Daryl agrees with me that Carol's recent behavior has been way out of character.
• Oh poor, misunderstood Governor!
• Carl has somehow turned into Tig Notaro's mini-me.
• The Psycho Girl theory is looking more and more likely. To think they mocked at the internet forum!
• On the one hand, no body = no death on television. On the other hand, they pretty much showed Judith's death as blatantly as they could get away with. I wouldn't want to bet on whether or not she survives. But I would lay odds that the showrunners may not have decided yet themselves.

Responding to a few points raised in the thread:

• The Gov was totally saving Michonne for a slow death. As we saw with Andrea and his other "guests", he does like to play with his captives. But he's still totally misunderstood!
• As to why the Gov's cannon fodder were so gung-ho on the assault - well, as Alisha commented to Tara, what the Govenor did was fucked up but they were now committed. At that point they were being fired upon, and they did show up to take the prison by force, so...
• Of course, the Governor's plan was less about protecting his followers and more about denying Rick and company whatever peace and happiness they built for themselves. But he's still totally misunderstood!
• For those wondering why comic Tyrese is a fan favorite, imagine someone with Herschel's humanity and Daryl's ass-kicking ability. And share in our sadness at his television portrayal.

RocShemp

Groucho

DRG

I'm pretty sure he's saving Bob's box of booze here.

mrhan

It was done decades earlier in The Ten Commandments. Exact same scene.

ddrknghtrtns

Daryl is eclipsing Chuck Norris.

msdmoney

I thought that most of the way the midseason finale went down was great, the action for the most part was very well done. It's just unfortunate that the motivations and the way that it arrived at this point was so poorly done.

Yeah, that's why this should have been the ending to last season, when the people of Woodbury truly trusted the governor. It doesn't make any sense that this new group suddenly follows him blindly after two of their leaders die and his first course of action is to turn this previously pacifist group into blood thirsty warriors. Nobody had second thoughts when the governor's only response to Rick pleading to live peacefully together was "we could, but we can't?" It was as if the writers were putting their realizations of the plot holes in the character dialogue. Nobody had second thoughts when the governor beheads one of his prisoners?


As they walked/drove past the bus I kept thinking, wouldn't they be looking for Rick? He was just there. And then he tackles the governor out of nowhere.

Yep as silly as those types of things are, those are the things I usually give them a pass on. It made for a cool action sequence regardless. That and the stealth zombies, or superhuman strength zombies are just something you have to get over with this show.

I didn't even realize she saw that. Hers was one of the few motivations that made sense on the show. She had fallen for him and put her trust in him and while he was away waging war on another group her daughter dies in a place he told her was safe. She had already started doubting him and the man she thought he was, she finally saw him for who he truly was.

uteotw

Yup. My favorite part of the ep was when he shot that guy in the chest after blowing up his tank.

madcougar

Am I the only one that was hoping Daryl was going to shoot an arrow through the Gov. other eye?

Preterite

She definitely saw him standing over a bound and helpless old man and chop, chop, chopping away at his neck.

And if nothing else, the Gov had just taken a sword through the chest and was bleeding out while surrounded by zombies. It's not as if she could have whisked him away to the nearest emergency room. Especially since he had just slaughtered the nearest thing to a doctor for miles around. A bullet to the Gulliver was practically a mercy.

Josh-da-man

And when Carl shoots and kills an unarmed combatant who is surrendering, he gets his gun taken away and has to work in the garden.

Buttmunker

With Hershel gone, their only doctor-in-residence, how does Rick prevent his bullet wound from getting infected? Looks like he's in a heap o' trouble!

Groucho

What about Bob?

Buttmunker

...And for all the "nay-sayers" and haters of Carl, I'll have you know that, while sitting in a room with two prepubscent girls, swooning over Carl ("Carl is so-oo hot"), I can guarantee that nobody is killing off Carl. He's "as big" with the kids as Daryl is to the "grown-ups."

majorjoe23

What if he's looking for a bathroom, he can't find one, and his bladder explodes?

Buttmunker

My urine-doctor once told me that the bladder never explodes. It only expands and expands, and becomes excruciatingly painful. But never explodes.

Paff

So you're saying that prepubescent girls' taste in the opposite sex is on par with their typical taste in music?

Buttmunker

Apparently. One Direction & Carl Grimes (Chandler Riggs) are prepubescent girls heavenly dream.

Groucho

Only one way to find out!

majorjoe23

Your urine-doctor is wrong. Bladders explode like Daryl just shoved a grenade into your tank's peehole.

Baby steps to the bathroom, baby steps to the bathroom.

ddrknghtrtns

Wouldn't be so cool if they had him and Beth do a duet together on an upcoming episode?

hanshotfirst1138

My assumption was that Rick peel off from the pack because he wanted to go after The Governor. I think there came a point in the chaos where the bus just decided they had to go or get caught in the crossfire.


I'm willing to offer it a bit of leeway since the zombies are basically a force of nature that mean you'll have to move. They're plot devices more than they're anything else. But yeah, they're wildly inconsistent.

So who shot him, the girl he was with or the lesbian gal? Did one of the two of them die? I was confused as to who was who.

You do that.

Daryl once arm-wrestled Chuck Norris. The stipulation was that whoever lost would have to be the subject of endless bad jokes on the Internet.

I kill you till you're dead! That's worse!

TomOpus

I was watching AMC the other day and they ran an ad for the movie Love Actually. At the end they throw up a pic of Andrew Lincoln from the movie and the announcer says something to effect of "featuring Andrew Lincoln from The Walking Dead."

I wonder how many fans of TWD will sit through the movie just to see him.

Baron Of Hell

I just watched that movie for the second time a few days ago and I don't remember him in it.