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devilshalo 01-21-14 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Variety
CW's 'Flash' Adds Jesse L. Martin
1:00 PM PST 1/21/2014 by Lesley Goldberg

He'll play Detective West, a surrogate father to Grant Gustin's Barry Allen in the "Arrow" spinoff pilot from Greg Berlanti, Andrew Kreisberg and Geoff Johns.

The network has enlisted Law & Order alum Jesse L. Martin to co-star in the Arrow spinoff built around speedster The Flash, The Hollywood Reporter has learned.

Grant Gustin stars as Barry Allen/The Flash in the pilot, which will be an origin story similar to what producers did with Stephen Amell starrer Arrow. Barry, who appeared in Arrow's two-part winter finale, is described as a Central City assistant police forensic investigator who arrives in Starling City to look into a series of unexplained robberies that may have a connection to a tragedy in his past.

Martin -- who played Det. Ed Green for nearly 200 episodes on the Dick Wolf procedural -- will portray Det. West, an honest, blue-collar cop who is a surrogate father to Barry. A soulful, funny and caring father to Iris -- Barry's potential love interest -- West came up through the foster care system and took Barry in after his mother's slaying and father's imprisonment. He believes in Barry and supports his efforts to prove his father's innocence.

The Flash project, from Warner Bros. Television, started as a backdoor pilot, with the third episode slated to air in the back half of Arrow's second season. The CW now will film Flash as a standalone pilot in a bid to launch "with a bang like we launched Arrow," CW president Mark Pedowitz told reporters last week at the TCA winter press tour.

Arrow co-creators Greg Berlanti and Andrew Kreisberg as well as director David Nutter are behind the potential spinoff. Berlanti, Kreisberg and DC Entertainment's Geoff Johns -- a writer-consultant on Arrow -- will pen the script for Warner Bros. Television. Nutter -- who helmed the Arrow pilot -- will also direct.

Martin's TV credits include an arc on the second and final season of Smash and The Philanthropist, Broadway's Rent and its subsequent feature-film adaptation. He next stars as Marvin Gaye in the upcoming biopic Sexual Healing. He's repped by ICM, McGowan Management and Kraditor & Haber.


taffer 01-21-14 05:54 PM

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Detective West = Wally West?

It doesn't sound like Wally's character at all, but the name dropping of West would have to be a pretty big coincidence.

The Valeyard 01-21-14 06:35 PM

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Could be Wally's dad (rebooted). Or maybe an uncle?

Kdogg 01-21-14 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by taffer (Post 11985475)
Detective West = Wally West?

It doesn't sound like Wally's character at all, but the name dropping of West would have to be a pretty big coincidence.

Wally is Iris West's nephew so he would be the grand uncle.

riley_dude 01-22-14 01:23 AM

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When does this show premiere?

DJariya 01-22-14 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by riley_dude (Post 11985795)
When does this show premiere?

They are producing a Pilot for next season (Fall). The CW will announce in May if it will get picked up to series or not. Most likely it will.

taffer 01-24-14 08:47 PM

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Two more actors added to The Flash


Two more actors have been added to "The Flash" pilot in development at The CW, according to Deadline: Rick Cosnett as Detective Eddie Thawne, and Danielle Panabaker as Caitlin Snow.

Both of those character names have significance to fans of the DC Comics source material. "Eddie Thawne" appears to be the show's take on "Eobard Thawne," Barry Allen's archrival Professor Zoom. "Caitlin Snow" is the latest version of DC villain Killer Frost, who debuted in the "Killer Frost" one-shot as part of Sept. 2013's "Villains Month."

Deadline describes Eddie Thawne as, "a recent transfer to the Central City Police Department, whose past is a mystery and who harbors a dark secret;" and Caitlin Snow as, "a highly intelligent bioengineering expert who lost her fiancé during an explosion at S.T.A.R. Labs."

"We're using a lot of mythology, a lot of characters from the comics in the development of the 'Flash' show," DC Entertainment chief creative officer and former "Flash" comic book writer Geoff Johns said in December. "I don't want to get too specific yet, but you'll see a lot of characters, a lot of elements from that. It's very much 'The Flash.'"

Cosnett has recently been seen on another CW program, "The Vampire Diaries," as Dr. Wes Maxfield. Panabaker has appeared on "Necessary Roughness" and "Bones." The two join Grant Gustin, who debuted in the title role of Barry Allen/The Flash in two episodes of "Arrow" last month, and Jesse L. Martin, announced earlier this week as playing "Detective West."

"The Flash" pilot, in contention for a spot next season on The CW, was written by Johns and "Arrow" executive producer Greg Berlanti and Andrew Kreisberg. David Nutter, known for an impressive track record with successful pilots (including "Arrow"), will direct.
Professor Zoom (aka Reverse Flash) was hinted at in a conversation Barry had with Felicity, but now we have confirmation he will be in the show.

I also didn't know Geoff Johns was writing the pilot, but this article says that he is. That good news. Johns' work on Flash in the comics was awesome.

Deftones 01-24-14 08:49 PM

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Sounds like they are doing this right. Sweet.

taffer 01-24-14 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Deftones (Post 11989339)
Sounds like they are doing this right. Sweet.

Now if only they could get the movie people on the ball...

Its pretty funny (in a sad way) that a third rate character like Green Arrow is going better than Superman is.

dex14 01-25-14 12:52 AM

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:thumbsup: to Panabaker

Coladar1 01-25-14 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by taffer (Post 11989357)
Now if only they could get the movie people on the ball...

Its pretty funny (in a sad way) that a third rate character like Green Arrow is going better than Superman is.

Even more sad we're in the age of CG, and still forced to defer to non-effects heroes like GA on TV. Probably even sadder that there's this utterly ridiculous philosophy of late that this type of stuff has to be on the big screen - or even works on the big screen period.

These are from comic books, hundreds of issues, tons of character development and continuity. They actually don't work on feature film nearly the way they should on episodic TV. Before CG, and now, affordable CG for a TV budget, okay, maybe. Now? If you wanna do the big pilot/origin as a feature, awesome. Continuing them as franchises, unless you do the Marvel thing where everything ties together and we're getting 2-3 movies a year in the same universe/continuity, just isn't the way it should be. These stories and characters have a wealth, an abundance even, of stories and characters that one movie every three years just makes wasteful uses of.

~×~ for the Trek franchise. I mourn for all the awesome stories that might come out of a tapestry so rich.

PhantomStranger 01-25-14 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Coladar1 (Post 11989735)
Even more sad we're in the age of CG, and still forced to defer to non-effects heroes like GA on TV. Probably even sadder that there's this utterly ridiculous philosophy of late that this type of stuff has to be on the big screen - or even works on the big screen period.

These are from comic books, hundreds of issues, tons of character development and continuity. They actually don't work on feature film nearly the way they should on episodic TV. Before CG, and now, affordable CG for a TV budget, okay, maybe. Now? If you wanna do the big pilot/origin as a feature, awesome. Continuing them as franchises, unless you do the Marvel thing where everything ties together and we're getting 2-3 movies a year in the same universe/continuity, just isn't the way it should be. These stories and characters have a wealth, an abundance even, of stories and characters that one movie every three years just makes wasteful uses of.

~×~ for the Trek franchise. I mourn for all the awesome stories that might come out of a tapestry so rich.

I don't think they work on film nearly as well because Hollywood is catering to the teen and foreign markets when they make a blockbuster. The animated DC movies have turned out quite well at times and they never run much longer than 75 minutes. The animated ones are more aimed at an adult, American audience than the typical Hollywood blockbuster. The animated Wonder Woman movie should have been the template for her live-action project.

taffer 02-08-14 11:13 AM

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http://i58.tinypic.com/2hyaz4o.jpg


Flash's suit looks pretty good. It definitely puts DOFP's Quicksilver to shame.

dvd-4-life 02-08-14 02:33 PM

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Wouldn't mind seeing The Flash Omnibus Vol. 1 .

PhantomStranger 02-08-14 07:08 PM

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We'll have to see how the suit looks in reality. I'm not overly fond of the design, Flash's suit is so iconic that even DC barely tweaked it for the New 52. They should drop the visor look.

They have also cast Iris West, Barry's destined wife. It appears they will be changing Wally West's ethnicity for the show.

robin2099 02-08-14 09:39 PM

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I like the look of the suit, but it looks a little too much like a motion capture suit. Actually, it really reminds me of what a live action Impulse suit might resemble.

dex14 02-09-14 01:18 AM

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I'm surprised they're even giving him a suit that elaborate.

DJariya 02-09-14 01:36 AM

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I'm going to bet this will take over the Wednesday at 9pm timeslot next season.

Arrow and Flash Wednesdays on The CW is pretty much a lock to be a hit. (for their audience at least)

PhantomStranger 02-09-14 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by dex14 (Post 12005529)
I'm surprised they're even giving him a suit that elaborate.

They kind of hinted in the Arrow episodes that Barry is a big fan of comics. This can't be Smallville, where the hero ran around for a decade in a flannel shirt.:lol:

taffer 02-09-14 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by PhantomStranger (Post 12005334)
We'll have to see how the suit looks in reality. I'm not overly fond of the design, Flash's suit is so iconic that even DC barely tweaked it for the New 52. They should drop the visor look.

They have also cast Iris West, Barry's destined wife. It appears they will be changing Wally West's ethnicity for the show.

It actually does look like a New 52 design. Jim Lee added a lot of unnecessary lines to everyone's suit, and CW's suit has a lot of unnecessary yellow lines too... :)

The visor was likely taken from Jay Garrick's New 52 suit in the Earth 2 comic.

http://i59.tinypic.com/53s31e.jpg

http://i60.tinypic.com/ippe9g.jpg

MrSmearkase 02-09-14 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 12005533)
I'm going to bet this will take over the Wednesday at 9pm timeslot next season.

Arrow and Flash Wednesdays on The CW is pretty much a lock to be a hit. (for their audience at least)

I could see them splitting it, putting them both at 8PM on different nights to boost a 9PM show. Either show can survive independent of the other. Vampire Diaries and its sister show are split, after all.

Michael Corvin 02-09-14 07:46 AM

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That suit is sleek as hell. :up:

anomynous 02-09-14 09:31 AM

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While that suit is pretty good looking IMO, it's fake.


http://tiguybou.deviantart.com/art/The-Flash-402658519

Hokeyboy 02-09-14 06:37 PM

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Did people actually think that was real? :)

taffer 02-09-14 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Hokeyboy (Post 12006065)
Did people actually think that was real? :)

Why not? It definitely looks like concept art that CW could have made. Maybe not the final design, but definitely at least early concept art. :shrug:

I got the picture from another message board, and the guy who posted it said it was on the Flash Facebook page. I don't use Facebook myself, so I couldn't check how authentic it was, so I just assumed it was the official Flash page and not some fan page.

PhantomStranger 02-09-14 07:21 PM

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I don't like the new look for Jay Garrick at all. Give me a metal bowl on his head any day. I hope they use the new 52 costume for Barry. The Reverse-Flash is supposed to be a big part of this series, they need a costume they can invert for him.

Michael Corvin 02-09-14 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by taffer (Post 12006091)
Why not? It definitely looks like concept art that CW could have made.

Yeah, why not? No reason to assume its bogus when it was first posted.

dex14 02-10-14 09:16 PM

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Tom Cavanagh (Ed) is the latest addition to the CW pilot The Flash, based on the DC comic. The project, from Warner Bros TV and Berlanti Productions, is an origin story about Barry Allen, aka The Flash (Grant Gustin), a Central City assistant police forensics investigator who arrives in Starling to look into a series of unexplained robberies that may have a connection to a tragedy in his past. Cavanagh will play Harrison Wells, a rock star in the world of physics and the mind and money behind Central City’s S.T.A.R. Labs Particle Accelerator. He becomes a pariah after the lab’s explosion, but he charts his path to redemption when he discovers that his failed experiment had the unintended consequence of creating the world’s fastest man.
:thumbsup: to Cavanagh

Gizmo 02-10-14 11:34 PM

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Didn't get a shit about this show until now. I really wish Ed was available somewhere to watch :(

DJariya 02-10-14 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Gizmo (Post 12007729)
Didn't get a shit about this show until now. I really wish Ed was available somewhere to watch :(

Really? You sorta care now because of a supporting actor who hasn't been on a hit show in years?

Gizmo 02-11-14 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 12007741)
Really? You sorta care now because of a supporting actor who hasn't been on a hit show in years?

Yes.

Unlike you I can't watch every TV show that hits the air. I pick and choose and dump crappy shows as well. If it sucks (like Arrow started to), I'll dump it. But I'll watch at least the first few.

Your telling me you've never watched a show because of An actor or actress you liked?

mrhan 02-11-14 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by taffer (Post 12005034)
http://i58.tinypic.com/2hyaz4o.jpg


Flash's suit looks pretty good. It definitely puts DOFP's Quicksilver to shame.

It's alright. Sort of reminds me of the Johnny Quick costume from the Crime Syndicate. Probably 'cause of the headgear.

Eric F 02-11-14 11:18 AM

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http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2014...6f6-s6-c30.jpg

:lol:

PhantomStranger 02-11-14 03:31 PM

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From what I've heard, Hollywood doesn't like using Lycra bodysuits as costumes since they are too revealing and most actors don't have the physiques for them. If you check out the cosplay scene, there are lots of newer costumes that duplicate the comic book costumes down to a tee. Hollywood just doesn't like using actual comic book designs.

dex14 02-11-14 07:45 PM

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Awesome


John Wesley Shipp, who played Barry Allen/the Flash in the titular 1990s live-action CBS program, will have a mysterious role in the CW and Warner Bros. Television’s pilot of the same name.

While exact details of the part are being kept under wraps, the CW did say that it is intended to be a recurring guest star if the “Arrow” spinoff is picked up to series.

Grant Gustin plays Barry Allen in the reboot, which is based on the DC Comics characters. Other stars include Candice Patton, Rick Cosnett, Danielle Panabaker, Carlos Valdes, Tom Cavanagh and Jesse L. Martin.

Pilot is penned by Greg Berlanti, Andrew Kreisberg and Geoff Johns and directed by David Nutter. Berlanti, Kreisberg and Nutter are exec producing; Melissa Kellner Berman is co-exec producing.

Hokeyboy 02-11-14 08:20 PM

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That's pretty cool :up:

Michael Corvin 02-11-14 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PhantomStranger (Post 12008667)
From what I've heard, Hollywood doesn't like using Lycra bodysuits as costumes since they are too revealing and most actors don't have the physiques for them.

Yeah but the Flash wearing a skin tight suit kinda makes sense aerodynamically.

Who knows maybe Clark could have given Bart a run for his money on Smallville if he wasn't rocking the jeans and flannel duds. :)

MrSmearkase 02-11-14 08:25 PM

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Yeah, that is kind of neat. I may finally break out the original DVDs soon.

whotony 02-11-14 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by taffer (Post 12005034)
http://i58.tinypic.com/2hyaz4o.jpg


Flash's suit looks pretty good. It definitely puts DOFP's Quicksilver to shame.

What is a dfop?

MrSmearkase 02-11-14 08:38 PM

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/\ X-Men: Days of Future Past


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