Re: The Walking Dead -- "Indifference" -- 11/03/13
 

Ever been to the south? Kudzu is taking over little by little. Grows fast and grows on everything.

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Indifference" -- 11/03/13
 

Carol would have dragged the bodies out and burned them after stumbling on Lizzie killing them.

But I agree that it seems pretty definite that Carol did what she said she did after the last episode; it was my theory that Lizzie did it and Carol covered up for her when she confessed in episode 3. The discussion between Carol and Rick seemed pretty definitive and fit in with the themes they've been building.

Still seems kind of weird that Carol would murder two people who were already dying. It's probably not going to stop the spread of the disease since so many people have been exposed and they probably have very little in the way of infection control in the prison. It could be moving through the food supply, water supply, or from contact (door knobs, tools, etc).

She also could just told Rick and everyone else that they died, she stabbed them before they zombied, and then burned the bodies as a precaution. And saved herself and everyone else a lot of grief. :shrug:

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Indifference" -- 11/03/13
 

And the lawns in that neighborhood they were in were not all that high, some trash strewn about but nice lush green lawns

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Indifference" -- 11/03/13
 

In the south, kudzu can grow almost a foot a day, no exaggeration. It's the bane of my existence.

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Indifference" -- 11/03/13
 

Zombies can mow lawns.

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Indifference" -- 11/03/13
 

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Indifference" -- 11/03/13
 

And very few weeds in the garden. Mine would go crazy, left unattended.

The other thing that had me cringing was Darryl smoking while tending to the battery. That's an explosion waiting to happen, especially with the covers open.

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Indifference" -- 11/03/13
 

:lol: You have apparently never seen old school mechanics. My grandpa smoked at least 2 packs a day working as a mechanic. He always had a smoke going when working on an engine. In those days carburetors were open when you took the air filter off and had gas in them. Nothing ever happened. I am not saying it was not foolish but your explosion waiting to happen is not as great as you think.

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Indifference" -- 11/03/13
 

Rather than the gasoline, he might have been referring to the copious volumes of HYDROGEN GAS often generated by lead-acid car batteries (at least that's what was made me cringe). I can't remember the last time I saw a new-issue 12V battery with filler caps.

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Indifference" -- 11/03/13
 

As unclezippy said, it's the hydrogen gas that is the concern.

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Indifference" -- 11/03/13
 

These characters clearly live in an alternate universe where the normal laws of physics and chemistry do not apply. A single walker can tear you to shreds but falls apart at the slightest hit. Gasoline has an unlimited shelf life. Water is tightly rationed but there's enough so that the cars are usually spotless. Lawn does not need to be mowed but vines will swallow the earth.

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Indifference" -- 11/03/13
 

Yeah, it's called Television.

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Indifference" -- 11/03/13
 

Oh like Pleasantville. I love that movie.

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Indifference" -- 11/03/13
 

And a thousand people each killing 100 walkers a day working 6 days a week (Sundays off), from 9 to 5 with an hour off for lunch and swinging once every 5 minutes would exterminate every walker in the country in under 10 years, even assuming every other human had turned. As I've said before after the first few weeks the hardest part would be finding enough walkers to fill your quota.
If walkers want to exist they have to take the good with the bad. So no battery acid bombs. Smoke up Daryl!

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Indifference" -- 11/03/13
 

I would watch and love this show. Glenn can come too.

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Indifference" -- 11/03/13
 

And this ep they clearly showed a flashback shot of Carol sticking the knife into the back of someone's head and dragging off the body to be burned.

It's pretty clear cut. It was Carol. Let's not go all Lost-style-clues-overkill here analyzing it.

Carol was clearly out of line killing the sick/weak to save the others. Extrapolate that out. You can't trust someone that will do that behind everyone's backs. You can't murder the sick and the weak for the good of the group, even just once in a while.

Plus, it was an overstep and relied on a lot of assumptions. You should be pretty damn sure before murdering a couple of sick, helpless people that you're doing what was necessary. Even if it had stopped the sickness, it still probably wouldn't have been the right thing to do. The right thing was to lock them away from everyone else (which they did with the others, now).

I saw Rick's informal exile of Carol to be both taking judgment/leadership into his own hands, and saving Carol's life at the same time.

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Indifference" -- 11/03/13
 

It was Rick being a Detective and visualizing the "crime". What if it was just what Rick's mind came up with with the little bit of evidence given, but not what really happened?

For the record, I believe she did it. Just speculating...

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Indifference" -- 11/03/13
 

Hated Rick kicking Carol out in the manner that he did. It didn't feel like something Rick would do to me, especially without the decision of others in the group. I do really enjoy Carol's character arc and how she's evolved over time quite a bit though.

Darryl's reaction was pretty ridiculous too, and probably one of the dumbest posturing i've seen on the show. Can't believe they actually had the actors do that.

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Indifference" -- 11/03/13
 

I think Rick made his decision because Carol no longer had "correct" answers to the three questions.

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Indifference" -- 11/03/13
 

For the record, the correct answers to the questions are:

1) (z2-z3)^2 = 4(z3-z1)(z1-z2) sin^2 alpha/2.
2) A cat choking on a potato.
3) Your mom.

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Indifference" -- 11/03/13
 

I'm in agreement with you on both counts, as I had been thinking the same thing. I also got that what we saw was Rick imagining the way it went down with Carol killing the others, not neccessarily what had actually happened. It could be seen either way, though. The only thing that puts it squarely on it truly being Carol who killed them is her own admission of the act, being made several times over, and her trying to justify it.

Here's one other thing to ponder, though. For those who watch "Talking Dead" after the episode, notice that there wasn't one of the show runners on to clarify what was just seen? Usually, in a case like this, there is. Suppose Rick get's back to the prison and after he informs the others about Carol, and Lizzie actually admits to the killing of the pair, and says Carol was just covering for her? Then Rick has truly banished her for naught, and it still opens up a whole mess of drama for them to deal with. Again, pure speculation that likely isn't right, but still could be a possibility.

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Indifference" -- 11/03/13
 

It could not have been more "clear" other than Rick turning to the camera and saying out loud..."And that is how I imagined Carol killing those two people"

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Indifference" -- 11/03/13
 

I wish Rick would turn to the camera and explain the obvious more often.

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Indifference" -- 11/03/13
 

"That there? That's bad writing."

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Indifference" -- 11/03/13
 

Not true. I (and not just me) obliviously thought it was fairly ambiguous. I've watched the episode at least three tomes over now, and it still comes off that way to me. Actually, the only way it would have been more clear is if they had instead shown the flashbacks as Carol explained how she had killed them. Instead they showed it in a way that left it a bit open to interpretation. You don't have to agree with me, but it doesn't necessarily make me wrong, either.