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Old 05-03-14, 02:49 AM
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Would never have thought Cuban was worth more than all the others combined
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Originally Posted by astrochimp View Post
Can we here at dvdtalk get together and raise some money to buy Lori a new outfit?
I noticed the same thing.

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They film a lot of episodes on the same day, so when you see episodes with one outfit, they were all filmed on the same day. The others sharks are wearing their same outfits as in those other episodes also.
Sure but you'd think she would change between each show taping.

Nobody notices what men wear. But men can swap out a tie, or jacket, etc and look completely different.
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Originally Posted by VHS? View Post
Would never have thought Cuban was worth more than all the others combined
NET WORTH (estimated)

Cuban = $2.3 to $2.5 billion

Kevin O'Leary = $300 million
Daymond John = $250 million
Barbara Corcoran = $140 million (some sites say only $40 million)
Robert Herjavec = $125 million
Lori Greiner = $100 million (some sites say only $50 million)

So Cuban is actually worth more than TWICE the others combined.
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Sure but you'd think she would change between each show taping.
The tapings aren't broken down into episodes; they just film all the pitches. Many pitches never make it to air, and the rest aren't necessarily shown in order. She'd end up wearing multiple outfits on an episode. I guess the producers prefer one outfit on many episodes rather than multiple outfits on one episode.
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I absolutely hated the low calorie wine. Maybe it will sell huge with marketing, but you can literally take ANY bottle of wine you actually like and just add a dollars worth of club soda to it and get the same result.

And I won't even try to do it justice, but Daymond insulting Mr. Wonderful with just one word at the end of the Cinnaholic deal was the hardest I'd laughed at Shark Tank all season. Actually that whole pitch was great with the Sharks calling out Cuban on his usual strategy, and he seemed to keep his mouth shut because of it. Nice touch for the cameras to keep showing Mark in thought because you knew he was about to strike...and then he didn't.
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Loved the treasure hunter. Reminded me of the Sea Captain making a pitch to Monty Burns...

McAllister: I'll need three ships and fifty stout men. We'll sail 'round the Horn and return with spices and silk, the likes of which ye have never seen.

Burns: We're building a casino!
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Originally Posted by Jeremy517 View Post
The tapings aren't broken down into episodes; they just film all the pitches. Many pitches never make it to air, and the rest aren't necessarily shown in order. She'd end up wearing multiple outfits on an episode. I guess the producers prefer one outfit on many episodes rather than multiple outfits on one episode.
Ah, okay. I guess I just noticed her. It seemed every episode I saw she had that same blue outfit on, including tonight for the season finale.

I look forward to seeing their new look, next season
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While the girl got a deal with BZ Box (shouldn't it have been called EZ Box?), no one checked how strong the box was. It's nice you don't have to build the box but if you still have to reinforce it with tape, it takes away the whole purpose of it.
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I loved her example of showing a standard box that wasn't taped well I make a lot of boxes at my job, I certainly could have beat Robert in that challenge
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I hated her groveling so much. I wish everyone had gone out for that alone. You had the feeling this was a girl who wasn't used to not getting her way, and you can't just beg and cry in the real world to get what you want. The sharks pretty much ate her alive.

The water balloon product was great. I bet their sales skyrocket off of tonight. I hate when the Sharks love a product and come up with the lame excuse of "you overvalued it" and then go out. EVERY product is overvalued, that's why you negotiate. Barbara should have met them in the middle for 22%. She would have made money and they would have taken it.
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The Indian girl is smart and has a good product, but I also hated her begging and then begging Lori after getting an offer from Kevin. You just don't do that in business.

I think the foot measuring app will be a bust for Mark. First, the app is free and they only make money off commissions from that one site. The prices for the kids shoes on that site may not even be appealing for parents.
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I'm wondering how many kids will end up actually standing on iPads
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I'm wondering how many kids will end up actually standing on iPads
Not to mention foot prints on the screen (if they don't get a clear cover)

I mean how really efficient is that app? You measure your kids feet once per year if that? Don't most kids shoe stores have a foot measuring thing anyways?
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I would say at least twice a year.

Shoe sizes aren't an exact science either. I usually have to try the shoe on to feel how it fits. Sometimes I might have to go up or down a half size to find the right one. While this product is kinda cool on initial use, it's another solution looking for a problem.
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The problem with the box idea is its four times as thick as a regular box when flat, storing 10,000 or 100,000 boxes will take four times the space, that's insane.
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I think the foot measuring app will be a bust for Mark. First, the app is free and they only make money off commissions from that one site. The prices for the kids shoes on that site may not even be appealing for parents.
I completely disagree, I think he got an incredible deal. The irony is that if those 2 had shut up or at least had a little more operating experience, they could have gotten a much better deal.

There was one unbelievable number in the entire presentation--the click thru rate of 98%. Most internet advertising might generate 1% at best, and often much less. And even something like "Candy Crush" might get 10-20% in app purchases at most. It would have been really valuable to know how many of those 98% go on to purchase, but it's probably a substantial number.

And Zappos is one of the largest footwear retailers in the world at this point.(it was bought by Amazon in 2009). It had over $1 billion in revenues in 2009, it's probably significantly larger now. An affiliate relationship could easily generate hundreds of thousands or even millions of dollars/month in referral fees.

The biggest risk is that not there is competition--this app will automatically become the leader in the space because of the Shark Tank effect(the Sharks seem to have forgotten this), it's that Zappos will build its own app. That won't put these guys out of business though, and it's also possible at some point that Cuban will just call up Zappos and offer to sell them this one for $10 or $20 million.

For them to show up, not having to have been able to monetize the app because of a glitch, and obviously not having had any coaching or presentation skills, I can see why Cuban was so annoyed. But then if they knew what they were doing, he would have had to pay a lot more.

And he's right about customization being a big trend, particularly in apparel and footwear--product returns are a huge cost in that business. So for $50,000 he gets 40% of the business and another angle at a business that he thinks might be a big thing.
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The problem with the box idea is its four times as thick as a regular box when flat, storing 10,000 or 100,000 boxes will take four times the space, that's insane.
I could see those colored boxes being sold in a boutique shop or a container store. I can't see people buying them for serious storage.
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For them to show up, not having to have been able to monetize the app because of a glitch, and obviously not having had any coaching or presentation skills, I can see why Cuban was so annoyed. But then if they knew what they were doing, he would have had to pay a lot more.

And he's right about customization being a big trend, particularly in apparel and footwear--product returns are a huge cost in that business. So for $50,000 he gets 40% of the business and another angle at a business that he thinks might be a big thing.
I could see it going either way. I think Cuban was also annoyed that neither woman really seemed to have any expertise. They were basically two moms who hired some people to develop an App. I think he saw the potential of the app as you described, but he doesn't respect the owners at all. They aren't a long term investment without the ability to code the app or other apps themselves.
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Maybe somebody with the finale still on their DVR can run through and post the details I should be posting here -

I was all set to post after I watched it, skipped my mind, deleted it, now I've forgotten - in one of the first three deals (I'm thinking it was the foot app), Lori drops out.

Now here's the thing: I've gotten pretty good with these sorts of things on these sorts of shows. Blame it on too much TV watching, but I can tell when they cut something. They *totally* did there.

Lori says something, the camera's on her speaking. Next thing you know, cut to the two entrepreneurs and it is blatantly obvious this is a voice over Lori recorded in post and cut into the show as though she really said it to the women. Whenever they do something that glaring, the immediate cut to stock nodding head footage then cut right back to the speaker when the sentence ends, it's a trick of editing to alter the content of whatever was really said.

Most times I've seen shows do it to add details for the viewer that they wouldn't have said during filming to whoever they were speaking with - Beverly Hills Pawn is notorious for this, Yossi will suddenly start saying, "This is good, but not that good. I think it is worth only $250,000, because it's from the Ottoman Empire by soandso in the latter part of their life." as the video cuts to bobblehead-like nodding.

Beyond the glaring 'nodding of the heads' footage, you'll notice an ever-so-slight yet still perceptible change in the tone and quality of Lori's voice/audio.

Now two things: Did anyone else notice it/agrees with me?

And, unlikely to be answered, but why? (Or at least speculation on why.) I don't recall noticing this on Shark Tank before... it's definitely not a tactic they employ frequently. I have to wonder what on earth Lori said right before 'I'm out' that would've necessitated such a thing. Hopefully someone can at least dig up whatever the cut-in audio said, since I unfortunately forgot after deleting the episode and don't feel like going through OnDemand with fastforward disabled as ABC does.
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I completely disagree, I think he got an incredible deal. The irony is that if those 2 had shut up or at least had a little more operating experience, they could have gotten a much better deal.

There was one unbelievable number in the entire presentation--the click thru rate of 98%. Most internet advertising might generate 1% at best, and often much less. And even something like "Candy Crush" might get 10-20% in app purchases at most. It would have been really valuable to know how many of those 98% go on to purchase, but it's probably a substantial number.

And Zappos is one of the largest footwear retailers in the world at this point.(it was bought by Amazon in 2009). It had over $1 billion in revenues in 2009, it's probably significantly larger now. An affiliate relationship could easily generate hundreds of thousands or even millions of dollars/month in referral fees.
As far as the click through, while I'll agree 98% is nuts, they've got one hell of a good business for getting almost unprecedented numbers in the app/advertising/internet affiliate space. Just consider - anybody using that app is doing so because they want to get their kids shoes.

Ahh, but even better? They're turning to the app because of difficulty getting kids shoes that fit or an accurate shoe size. "I just went out and bought a new pair, and they're too small! Argh. What's this app say? ... Oh, wait, wow, I can take this precise scan and get shoes sent that will match it to a tee?!? *click-click-buy*"

It's one hell of a good model for being able to have an impossibly high number to toss around to potential investors/partners/corporate acquirers. I'll admit the 98% number is either inflated or unrealistic, but I bet the app's numbers are exceptional as a result of the service they offer and the problem it addresses.
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Maybe somebody with the finale still on their DVR can run through and post the details I should be posting here -

I was all set to post after I watched it, skipped my mind, deleted it, now I've forgotten - in one of the first three deals (I'm thinking it was the foot app), Lori drops out.

Now here's the thing: I've gotten pretty good with these sorts of things on these sorts of shows. Blame it on too much TV watching, but I can tell when they cut something. They *totally* did there.

Lori says something, the camera's on her speaking. Next thing you know, cut to the two entrepreneurs and it is blatantly obvious this is a voice over Lori recorded in post and cut into the show as though she really said it to the women. Whenever they do something that glaring, the immediate cut to stock nodding head footage then cut right back to the speaker when the sentence ends, it's a trick of editing to alter the content of whatever was really said.

Most times I've seen shows do it to add details for the viewer that they wouldn't have said during filming to whoever they were speaking with - Beverly Hills Pawn is notorious for this, Yossi will suddenly start saying, "This is good, but not that good. I think it is worth only $250,000, because it's from the Ottoman Empire by soandso in the latter part of their life." as the video cuts to bobblehead-like nodding.

Beyond the glaring 'nodding of the heads' footage, you'll notice an ever-so-slight yet still perceptible change in the tone and quality of Lori's voice/audio.

Now two things: Did anyone else notice it/agrees with me?

And, unlikely to be answered, but why? (Or at least speculation on why.) I don't recall noticing this on Shark Tank before... it's definitely not a tactic they employ frequently. I have to wonder what on earth Lori said right before 'I'm out' that would've necessitated such a thing. Hopefully someone can at least dig up whatever the cut-in audio said, since I unfortunately forgot after deleting the episode and don't feel like going through OnDemand with fastforward disabled as ABC does.
She might have mentioned a potential competitor or brand, or even something damaging to the reputation of this business. I assume that the Shark making the actual deal gets final approval of the edit that makes it to air. The negotiation process is really little more than an infomercial.

Shark Tank's great conceit is getting people to believe this is anything more than another reality show. The pseudo-business angle fools some people.
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The Sharks in this episode of "Shark Tank" are Mark Cuban, Lori Greiner, Robert Herjavec, Daymond John and Kevin O'Leary.

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LOVE this show... so glad it's back.
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Does anyone (blog, website, whatever) track companies post-Shark Tank? I'm curious which people finalize their deals (a lot of them fall apart), and how often the companies can expand and become more profitable.
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