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JZ1276 09-01-13 09:47 PM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Rabid Dog" -- 9/01/13
 
When Jesse called Walt did Jesse say hes coming for Walt where he "really" lives? Whats that supposed to mean?

nickdawgy 09-01-13 09:48 PM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Rabid Dog" -- 9/01/13
 
I thought he was gonna go after the car wash or something. Or maybe he knows about the hotel? Or going back to Saul's?

Great camera work on the dude at the plaza looking all suspicious right until the end when he cracks a smile when his kids call for him. I knew the whole time it had to be Jesse's paranoia but they really sold it.

JZ1276 09-01-13 09:51 PM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Rabid Dog" -- 9/01/13
 

Originally Posted by nickdawgy (Post 11817881)
I thought he was gonna go after the car wash or something. Or maybe he knows about the hotel? Or going back to Saul's?

That doesnt make any sense. Walt really lives at the car wash, or Saul's?
Walt was so against killing Jesse, it's almost hard to believe he'd change his mind that fast.

CaptainMarvel 09-01-13 09:58 PM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Rabid Dog" -- 9/01/13
 
I pretty much assumed that Jesse was going to try to turn Skylar (and thereby take Walt's family from him... they were the reason for this in the first place).

JZ1276 09-01-13 10:01 PM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Rabid Dog" -- 9/01/13
 
I'm starting to think this is some kind of scheme Walt & Jesse cooked up to get rid of Hank.

Poink 09-01-13 10:04 PM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Rabid Dog" -- 9/01/13
 

Originally Posted by JZ1276 (Post 11817879)
When Jesse called Walt did Jesse say hes coming for Walt where he "really" lives? Whats that supposed to mean?

The two most important things to Walt is his family and his pride. This opens up a few possibilities.

1) Jesse & Hank get ahold of Skyler and tell her what Walt has really done; the murders, the child-poisonings, et al in an attempt to turn his family against him.

2) Jesse takes claims that he was the "real" Heisenberg, which would bruise Walt's ego beyond belief. Remember how flippant Walt was towards Hank when Gale was killed and Hank thought they had their guy?

I can't really think of a logical way that Scenario #2 would play out, but I think that if Jesse tried to turn Skyler, things could be interesting. If not handled appropriately by Hank and Gomez; would Skyler take the opportunity of being face to face with Jesse and try to kill him? That would be quite the shocker...

DthRdrX 09-01-13 10:04 PM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Rabid Dog" -- 9/01/13
 

Originally Posted by CaptainMarvel (Post 11817891)
I pretty much assumed that Jesse was going to try to turn Skylar (and thereby take Walt's family from him... they were the reason for this in the first place).

I was thinking he would tell Walt Jr, as that is the one thing that would destroy Walt beyond just killing him, hence hitting him "where he really lives". That plus I'm still waiting for Jesse and Walt Jr. to have a scene together.

I don't believe Jesse has ever shown any idea that Walt used Todd's family to do the prison killings.

chowderhead 09-01-13 10:06 PM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Rabid Dog" -- 9/01/13
 

Originally Posted by Poink (Post 11817897)
The two most important things to Walt is his family and his pride. This opens up a few possibilities.

1) Jesse & Hank get ahold of Skyler and tell her what Walt has really done; the murders, the child-poisonings, et al in an attempt to turn his family against him.

2) Jesse takes claims that he was the "real" Heisenberg, which would bruise Walt's ego beyond belief. Remember how flippant Walt was towards Hank when Gale was killed and Hank thought they had their guy?

I can't really think of a logical way that Scenario #2 would play out, but I think that if Jesse tried to turn Skyler, things could be interesting. If not handled appropriately by Hank and Gomez; would Skyler take the opportunity of being face to face with Jesse and try to kill him? That would be quite the shocker...

3). Family, pride and money. Jesse is going to try and destroy Walt in that order.

DthRdrX 09-01-13 10:07 PM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Rabid Dog" -- 9/01/13
 

Originally Posted by Poink (Post 11817897)
The two most important things to Walt is his family and his pride. This opens up a few possibilities.

1) Jesse & Hank get ahold of Skyler and tell her what Walt has really done; the murders, the child-poisonings, et al in an attempt to turn his family against him.

2) Jesse takes claims that he was the "real" Heisenberg, which would bruise Walt's ego beyond belief. Remember how flippant Walt was towards Hank when Gale was killed and Hank thought they had their guy?

I can't really think of a logical way that Scenario #2 would play out, but I think that if Jesse tried to turn Skyler, things could be interesting. If not handled appropriately by Hank and Gomez; would Skyler take the opportunity of being face to face with Jesse and try to kill him? That would be quite the shocker...


1. Skylar hates Jesse, and he realizes this.

2. I have a feeling she realizes Walt was behind the bombing and the prison killings. You don't get to be head Meth boss through puppies and flowers. This is why she made a suggestion that Walt kill Jesse.

Fist of Doom 09-01-13 10:14 PM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Rabid Dog" -- 9/01/13
 
"They spent three hours talking about something called Babylon 5." :lol:

For a relatively quiet episode, my heart was in my throat for most of it. Love how shit's been hitting the fan in each episode.

Troy Stiffler 09-01-13 11:05 PM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Rabid Dog" -- 9/01/13
 
This episode didn't get me as amped up as the previous ones.

I really like the music/sounds they play when Jesse gets pissed.

dvdjunkie32 09-01-13 11:21 PM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Rabid Dog" -- 9/01/13
 
Did RJ Mitte drop a major spoiler about his character on Talking Bad tonight? Maybe I didn't hear it right, but the host quickly came back saying oh no you shouldn't say that. Holy crap if it is true.

Good episode, but it didn't really move the story forward much. They spent a good chunk of time on Walt and the gasoline carpet. I felt a bit cheated that we didn't get to see more of Jesse's confession. When did Hank tell his partner about Walt?

Raul3 09-01-13 11:23 PM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Rabid Dog" -- 9/01/13
 
I wonder about the title of next episode. I mean, I googled the name, that's why I'm wondering about it.

I'm putting the title of next week episode in spoilers, you can google the name, check Wikipedia, nothing that will spoil the show.

Spoiler:

To'hajiilee

Coral 09-01-13 11:24 PM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Rabid Dog" -- 9/01/13
 

Originally Posted by DthRdrX (Post 11817855)
I think Hank just made it clear he doesn't give a shit about Jesse.

But why should he? Hank pointed out that Jesse is a murderer, and he's right.

As much as Jesse is more likeable than Walt, he's still not a great person - he's just more redeemable.

This shit is getting extra juicy. Can't wait to see what happens next.

Geofferson 09-01-13 11:27 PM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Rabid Dog" -- 9/01/13
 
Solid episode tonight. Really sets the stage for the final stretch (or so we're led to assume).

Mike86 09-01-13 11:28 PM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Rabid Dog" -- 9/01/13
 
I thought the episode was great personally. Loved the reveal mid-episode that Jesse didn't go through with burning down the White's home due to Hank interfering. Hank is kind of a slimeball too with his approach to taking down Walt and especially in this episode where he basically admitted he doesn't give a rat's ass about Jesse and whether he lives or dies despite him basically being the one chance to save his ass. Granted I suppose he's desperate to try and save his reputation and career but still.

I really wonder what it is that Jesse has up his sleeve and what exactly he means by hitting him in his real home. The big things he can do to damage Walt are by hitting his pride or his family in my opinion. I think family is out of the question because despite how much he doesn't like Walt I don't think he has it in him to hurt Walt Jr. or Holly which would also leave out doing anything to harm Walt or Skyler. I could be wrong but I dunno if he'd hit that hard. Unless he tries to say that he was Heisenberg and the master behind the meth cooks all this time and goes for Walt's pride/ego by taking the credit. Despite not being involved anymore I don't think Walt would let that slide.

Also like how Walt Jr. basically knows that Walt is full of shit with his stories and he's one of the only characters on the show I feel truly sorry for as it's going to break him to know that his dad is a meth cook/murderer and his mom has been acting as an accomplice to work against his aunt and uncle. It does seem to me that Jr. and Holly are the only shreds of humanity that Walt has where he's not faking entirely. Yes he lies to Walt Jr. and has kept him in the dark but I think Walt does care about his kids no matter how bad he's turned.


Originally Posted by Poink (Post 11817897)
2) Jesse takes claims that he was the "real" Heisenberg, which would bruise Walt's ego beyond belief. Remember how flippant Walt was towards Hank when Gale was killed and Hank thought they had their guy?

I can't really think of a logical way that Scenario #2 would play out, but I think that if Jesse tried to turn Skyler, things could be interesting. If not handled appropriately by Hank and Gomez; would Skyler take the opportunity of being face to face with Jesse and try to kill him? That would be quite the shocker...

Makes perfect sense to me. Jesse "confesses" to Hank that he was behind the blue meth and was Heisenberg all along. Word gets out and Walt finds out about this and obviously isn't going to let him take the credit for everything as it would be the ultimate bruise to his ego. Walt obviously can't take this lying down and as we've seen in the past goes out of his way to get himself back into trouble when it comes to his ego and maybe gets involved in another cook to attempt to show that he's still out there.

JumpCutz 09-01-13 11:30 PM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Rabid Dog" -- 9/01/13
 

Originally Posted by dvdjunkie32 (Post 11817965)
Did RJ Mitte drop a major spoiler about his character on Talking Bad tonight? Maybe I didn't hear it right, but the host quickly came back saying oh no you shouldn't say that. Holy crap if it is true.

Don't leave me hanging junkie! :lol:

Care to put what you think you heard in a spoiler? I'm curious as heck.

Jeremy517 09-01-13 11:31 PM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Rabid Dog" -- 9/01/13
 

Originally Posted by JZ1276 (Post 11817879)
When Jesse called Walt did Jesse say hes coming for Walt where he "really" lives? Whats that supposed to mean?

The lab, I'm guessing.

Raul3 09-01-13 11:37 PM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Rabid Dog" -- 9/01/13
 
No way they would allow a major spoiler to slip like that. I'm sure they recorded most episodes of Talking Bad a long time ago.

Mike86 09-01-13 11:38 PM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Rabid Dog" -- 9/01/13
 

Originally Posted by Raul3 (Post 11817978)
No way they would allow a major spoiler to slip like that. I'm sure they recorded most episodes of Talking Bad a long time ago.

It's live isn't it? Still though that's a major spoiler and no way he would have let that slip I'm sure.

JumpCutz 09-01-13 11:42 PM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Rabid Dog" -- 9/01/13
 

Originally Posted by Mike86 (Post 11817980)
It's live isn't it? Still though that's a major spoiler and no way he would have let that slip I'm sure.

Spoiler:
:) What did he say?

Mike86 09-01-13 11:59 PM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Rabid Dog" -- 9/01/13
 

Originally Posted by JumpCutz (Post 11817984)
Spoiler:
:) What did he say?

I know I have it spoilerized and I've got no idea if it's even true but fair warning to not click if you don't want to know.
Spoiler:
That his family is dead. It sort of sounded like he was joking to me though.

DJariya 09-02-13 12:08 AM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Rabid Dog" -- 9/01/13
 

Originally Posted by Raul3 (Post 11817978)
No way they would allow a major spoiler to slip like that. I'm sure they recorded most episodes of Talking Bad a long time ago.


Talking Bad is live, not on tape.

bluetoast 09-02-13 12:15 AM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Rabid Dog" -- 9/01/13
 
Looks like I was right about Hank trusting in Gomie. Glad to see it, but that conversation would have been great to see.

Crocker Jarmen 09-02-13 12:35 AM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Rabid Dog" -- 9/01/13
 
Wow, this was an awesome episode.

I really like Marie, and the comic tone she brings to each scene she is in. I enjoyed seeing her in with her shrink. I was reminded of Peter Bogdonovich's psychiatrist on The Sopranos (I kept waiting for Marie's shrink to take a drink from a ridiculously, oversized and decorated water bottle).

I know Jesse was scared shitless, but he must know Mr. White wasn't going to have him killed by a big, psycho looking guy dressed in black leather, standing just a few feet away from him.

I in no way hold it against Hank he doesn't care if Jesse is murdered or not. All the terrible things he's done, no one else in this thread would either.

I too wished to hear more of Jesse's confession. Are we to assume he told Hank EVERYTHING? That must have been one marathon of a confession. Also would liked to have seen the scene where Hank takes his partner into his confidence.

Now that everything looks like its turned a corner for Hank, I'm convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt he is doomed doomed doomed.

dvdjunkie32 09-02-13 12:38 AM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Rabid Dog" -- 9/01/13
 

Originally Posted by JumpCutz (Post 11817974)
Don't leave me hanging junkie! :lol:

Care to put what you think you heard in a spoiler? I'm curious as heck.

Haha sure

Spoiler:


They were talking about his experience on the show and he said something about how it was over and his character would die.


Mike86 09-02-13 12:45 AM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Rabid Dog" -- 9/01/13
 

Originally Posted by Crocker Jarmen (Post 11818011)
I in no way hold it against Hank he doesn't care if Jesse is murdered or not. All the terrible things he's done, no one else in this thread would either.

Regardless of what he's done I still think it's kind of a cold thing on Hank's part to say about Jesse. He's supposed to be the better man supposedly yet all he cares about is clearing his name and catching Walt at any cost. He should care about putting Jesse away for a while and also try and protect him as well as he can as he could serve as a possible witness against Walt later.

bluetoast 09-02-13 12:48 AM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Rabid Dog" -- 9/01/13
 

Originally Posted by Crocker Jarmen (Post 11818011)
(I kept waiting for Marie's shrink to take a drink from a ridiculously, oversized and decorated water bottle).

Yeah his bottles were always pretty hilarious.

chuckd21 09-02-13 01:10 AM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Rabid Dog" -- 9/01/13
 

Originally Posted by Mike86 (Post 11818017)
Regardless of what he's done I still think it's kind of a cold thing on Hank's part to say about Jesse. He's supposed to be the better man supposedly yet all he cares about is clearing his name and catching Walt at any cost. He should care about putting Jesse away for a while and also try and protect him as well as he can as he could serve as a possible witness against Walt later.

Catching a murderer and a massive drug kingpin is kind of a big deal.

Mike86 09-02-13 01:41 AM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Rabid Dog" -- 9/01/13
 

Originally Posted by chuckd21 (Post 11818045)
Catching a murderer and a massive drug kingpin is kind of a big deal.

Well no shit. Still though Jesse is the only witness that Hank has that can back up his story. It seems like it's in his best interest to try and keep Jesse around to add credibility to his story when the questioning goes on later. Especially now that Walt's trying to frame him. Plus I don't work with law enforcement but I kind of doubt that they like to just have a person they're depending on to get evidence be killed if it can be avoided. Hank seemed to not really give a shit which to me seemed a bit foolish.

DJariya 09-02-13 01:44 AM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Rabid Dog" -- 9/01/13
 
:thumbsup: Quiet episode. But good as usual.

Don't have many thoughts about it other than I liked seeing the non-linear storytelling. Thought it was cool having the episode start with the aftermath of Jesse's rampage from Walt's perspective. Then later in the episode we got to see it from Jesse's perspective.

:lol: at Jesse freaking out during his meeting with Walt and thinking the bald guy was Walt's backup.

Should be an interesting last 4 episodes.

DJariya 09-02-13 02:16 AM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Rabid Dog" -- 9/01/13
 
http://tvrecaps.ew.com/recap/breakin...-12-rabid-dog/

EW.com thought this episode sucked.

bluetoast 09-02-13 02:32 AM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Rabid Dog" -- 9/01/13
 
Damn that's less of a review than it is a summary.

Kal Varnsen 09-02-13 02:32 AM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Rabid Dog" -- 9/01/13
 
Did anyone watch the replay of Talking Bad? Did they take out Flynn's spoiler? Don't think I want to watch if its a big spoiler.

Kal Varnsen 09-02-13 02:38 AM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Rabid Dog" -- 9/01/13
 

Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 11818076)
http://tvrecaps.ew.com/recap/breakin...-12-rabid-dog/

EW.com thought this episode sucked.

AV Club gave it an A. :lol: http://www.avclub.com/articles/rabid-dog,101876/

wirefan 09-02-13 03:05 AM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Rabid Dog" -- 9/01/13
 

Originally Posted by Mike86 (Post 11818059)
Well no shit. Still though Jesse is the only witness that Hank has that can back up his story. It seems like it's in his best interest to try and keep Jesse around to add credibility to his story when the questioning goes on later. Especially now that Walt's trying to frame him. Plus I don't work with law enforcement but I kind of doubt that they like to just have a person they're depending on to get evidence be killed if it can be avoided. Hank seemed to not really give a shit which to me seemed a bit foolish.

1) They took a video of Jesse for the very concern you highlight. Hank was also smart enough to have Gomie there so noone could claim it was coerced or doctored.

2) Jesse has no hard evidence to tie Walt to anything.

Dead or alive they've gotten what they can out of him. The only useful evidence they can get moving forward involves him interacting with Walt and getting him on tape. Sure they can do this through official channels and get better protection on the meet but Hank covered this - once he is put into the system, he believes there is a high likelihood Walt will find out and that would crush any chance of Jesse getting Walt on tape (and also would put Jesse in the crosshairs of Walt for certain)

majorjoe23 09-02-13 06:56 AM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Rabid Dog" -- 9/01/13
 
I liked Marie's "Is this bad for Walt?" response.

mhg83 09-02-13 08:38 AM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Rabid Dog" -- 9/01/13
 
RJ Mites exact words were
Spoiler:
"After this i'm dead. no more Walt Jr." I think he just meant him as an actor and not the character.

stevevt 09-02-13 09:16 AM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Rabid Dog" -- 9/01/13
 
I understand the dramatic purpose having Jesse start to actually light the fire served (i.e., showed he really was going to go through with it). But, it kind of bugged me knowing that, in a gas fire, the thing that ignites is the fumes, and there were probably plenty built up to cause ignition as soon as there was a spark. Or, at least, a good enough chance that would happen that a DEA agent probably wouldn't have stuck around after coming upon that scene.

Red Dog 09-02-13 01:34 PM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Rabid Dog" -- 9/01/13
 
Loved the Babylon 5 reference. :lol:


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