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So Spencer with a 5-0 eviction next week again with predictable game play? Spence will all of a sudden be "shady" this week.

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It sounds like Aaryn will put up Elissa and Helen. She is pissed at Elissa because Elissa told her and GM that she didn't want to sit next to them (one the live show, I guess) because they "were too disgusting" and "beneath her" or something like that. But the rest of 3AM wants Helen out this week so I think that is their goal.

Also, it was hilarious when the feeds came back up, Amanda got pissed at McCrae because she couldn't win another competition and she started crying again. She actually went into the storage room and hid behind a garbage can for awhile.

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It goes to show what a lame season this is when the mastermind running the house is hiding behind a garbage can crying because she can't win any competitions.

I hate to say this, but they could really use Evil Dick in there...

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Even if Amanda's side finally shows their hand this week and gets rid of Helen, no one will do anything about it. GM will just wait for another reason to threaten to beat one of her fellow houseguests to death and think about Nick.

Spencer shouldn't be believing he's just a pawn but REALLY part of (I'm guessing Andy lied to him about a F2 deal) a big plan to go to the end, Helen believed McCrae and would be the most hated person in the house if the house wasn't just THAT EVIL this season, Elissa is harmless and just waiting to get picked off and unless they get some special power, who on the jury is going to make any difference if they return?

Judd is NOT smart. He's a nice guy (with the exception of his behavior to Jessie, mostly because he wanted a piece of Aaryn), but he left that house most angry with Helen and Elissa. Hell, Elissa isn't really even in the game. Amanda was why Judd left. Nothing happens with Amanda's say-so. Helen was part of it, but Amanda's (wrong like always) suspicion that Judd was the MVP was easily the primary reason Judd left. He'd have to totally have grown a brain and win HOH to change up anything in the house.

Candace would be horrible if she returned. Jessie is nice enough, but wouldn't be able to do anything more than she did so far...which was nothing. And if Helen goes and returns, it would be totally up to her and Elissa winning an HOH, but the people in the house who should be ready to flip (GM and Spencer) have no clue anyway. UGH.

At this point, I'm just hoping McCrae can beat Amanda in the F2. But I think if Amanda tells the jury to vote for her, they will. I just can't root for Andy. I hate the fact that he, much like Aaryn, flipped loyalties mostly to be with the cool kids. Helen and Elissa aren't really cool. Aaryn and McCrae (Judd while he was there) and even Aaryn are the cool kids. All bullies too except McCrae. If you have another good option besides Amanda, Aaryn and McCrae, you take it. Elissa and Helen stand no chance of beating Andy in the F2.

When Aaryn found out her pretty people alliance weren't the cool people in the house (and were leaving), she went searching for people that would allow her to feel like the cool girl again. Sadly, Andy did the same thing.

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Yea, I just want this season to hurry up and be over. It's so predictable, I feel I already know how it is going down and I just need the show to catch up to me. The episodes are painstaking. I've always enjoyed this show even with some despicable people, but honestly, there is no one left I want to root for. The only thing that I look forward to is the backlash for Amanda, Aaryn, GM and Spencer. -popcorn-

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I am starting to think there may be a big backlash against Andy. If it comes out how much he is flip flopping he may get more hate than anyone other than GM, as she is the queen of the horrorshow.

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Yea, Andy is a major tattletale, but as much as I dislike his game, he is playing the game, and feels bad about how he is backstabbing, and he is not a racist or a bully in his game play. The others have been despicable by their comments and their bullying.

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Elissa won veto. It sounds like it was Otev. So hopefully this means that Helen will be evicted this week.

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And hopefully Grodner rigs the jury game so Helen comes right back. I mean, I don't like her one bit (though she's still better than Aaryn, Amanda and GM), but what else even can remotely shake up the house?

Judd could do it, but I have no faith in him to be able to even come back and not just fall right back under McCrae and Amanda's spell. If he still blames Helen and Elissa most for his eviction, this would actually be a huge benefit to Amanda and McCrae.

Jessie would be smart enough to want to come in and take Helen's place with Elissa, but could she and Elissa possibly convince the morons that are GM and Spencer to come over and make it a fair fight? I don't think so.

Candice would only end up causing a lot of fighting and possibly even the racism stuff to come back into play. I'm just plain old tired of that.

Helen probably could return (with a power maybe) and change things, but, if not, at least it would REALLY piss off Amanda and make her worry even little bit. Or maybe even just take out Amanda with one fortunate HOH win by Elissa or Helen. I could possibly see that freaking out Andy and then "maybe" things could shift again.

That's almost the best we can hope for this season. That said, I'm not really rooting for anyone. I would be ok with Elissa winning, because she's only a bit wacky and that's the gold standard for this season, Jessie returning and making a dramatic run would be fun (but she'd never get the votes) and I guess I'm ok with McCrae winning.

edit to add: 9:18 PM HOH group say El was ruthless & Aaryn says that's why she doesn't like those comps. she doesn't like them with physical contact. NT

And good for Elissa for showing some real fight and having 1 more victory than Amanda at this point.

edit to add 1 last thing: 9:23 PM Helen is comforting GM because she really thought Nick was going to be in the comp. NT

OMG with the Nick stuff. I honestly would prefer to see Nick say at the finale that he's not interested in GM than I would in seeing Aaryn or Amanda called out as racist/vulgar/mean b*tches that America hates.

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So McCrae has figured out that there's going to be a returning houseguest and its going to be decided by having them compete; he wants to have a "house meeting" so that they'll all agree to vote the returning player out and basically "rest" for the week.

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It would be great if the returning player had immunity for one week, to give them time to actually make a difference and have a true second chance rather than rotating right back out.

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I'd rather they voted them right out again. It would be great to see the producer go nuts when another stupid,expect the unexpected "twist", goes south right away.

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Maybe the HOH will be automatically granted to the winning player. Sort of breaks the established rules of the show, but it would be a great way to shake things up, and not end up with another Kaysar.

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Grodner has to do something like that. Why bother having them come back if they're automatically going to be evicted right away. Unless she's going to make sure it's Judd going back in thereby possibly giving him a chance to stay because enough of them will feel guilty about evicting him the first time.

But still, they should obviously go back in with either auto HOH or auto immunity for a week.

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Elissa secured her alliance with Judd and GM then nominated McCrae and Aaryn with Aaryn as the target. After a long DR session last night, she came out and formed an unholy alliance with Aaryn to try to backdoor Amanda.

So, of course, Amanda won veto. Hailey Jones anyone? (Google Hailey Jones Big Brother if you have questions)

So now Aaryn is out unless Elissa nominates GM or Judd, which she won't do. I guess Spencer could still go over Aaryn, but he's such a low value target I doubt Elissa nominates him. It will probably be Andy. No way Spencer keeps Aaryn over Andy so unless McManda decide to dump Andy it will be Aaryn.

I know some will say why not nominate both Amanda and McCrae so this wouldn't happen. One, I think Aaryn was the original target, and with the help of her closest ally (production) Elissa changed her mind. Two, I don't think it would be possible to get McCrae out right now. Spencer wouldn't vote him out. (Amanda - YES, McCrae - No) Even if Amanda left McCrae up, I think the votes would fall with at least Amanda, Andy, and Spencer voting to keep him. Three is all you would need.

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I just can't believe the show can be that rigged. That rumor has been out that for sooo long now. Who can Amanda beat in the F2? Aaryn maybe...maybe.

I've been paying more attention since Elissa won and I just don't know who's telling the truth anymore or why people are sticking with Amanda and McCrae.

If Judd is really with Elissa, how has he not been able to pry people away from Amanda (other than McCrae)? Why wouldn't these people want to break up McCrae and Amanda?They're not just awful to the audience, Amanda makes Helen seem pleasant and relaxed when it comes to trying to get what she wants. She's abusive to the point you would expect a revolt by now. Even GM only explodes every now and again. Amanda is nasty almost all the time. What does Spencer gain from straddling that alliance when he could have his own where he's not clearly the pawn and where no one would take him to the end?

This season is honestly killing me. I got sick to my stomach for real when I saw that Amanda won POV on Jokers and how is it that she keeps promising the same things to Andy and Aaryn and no one is comparing notes in that house? She's not subtle and Andy can't keep a secret.

The only thing I hope to see now is that Elissa shows the same strength she's shown so far this HOH. She's brought out some of the Rachel and if she can keep it that way then Andy goes up and, at this point, I'll just settle for Amanda being screwed by having had to turn on Andy or Aaryn. Neither of them will forgive her, so Elissa needs to stay strong and put that slime ball Andy up. Love how the Zingbot called him a floater. These people have no clue how they are perceived and this season really has no stars. Elissa is the closest thing to a popular houseguest in there and Judd will be up there if he doesn't go back to Amanda and McCrae. But that's it. The rest of the "liked" people are out of the game. Andy was like at number 15 and as much as I know Aaryn is a worse person at this stage of her life, I hate the game Andy's played, so I'd like to see him leave to make the best of a horrible POV result.

I still can't even believe it happened.

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Yeah, after finally getting to the point where I just fast-forwarded through the CBS shows last week, -and I never do that, -I was feeling pretty good this morning about the show. It seemed at least for a moment that there was some interesting play going on and maybe something positive might happen.
And now its all crushed and I'm heart-broken. Well, maybe not heart-broken, -its not as if I have blood on my hands, but I'm back to being kind of fed up with the show for the moment.
The worst thing is that the show's doing well, so there's no lesson to be learned.

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My guess is that he's holding out waiting for someone, anyone, to take Amanda out so that he can go with his McCrae/Andy final 3. I think he would have been estatic to vote out Amanda this week.

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I'd rather see Aaryn or GM get to the final 3 than either of those turd blossoms.

Let the public judge them, but inside the house McCrae has no balls, I'm just so sick of Andy running from one side to the other ratting out people and was shocked the Zingbot called him a floater and Spencer just grosses me out.

Elissa, GM or Judd needs to win this thing. But, from the sound of it, the check already has Amanda's name on it.

Most seasons, calling one side the "good" side and the other side the "evil or bad" side is stupid, but not this season. Andy will have to find that out when he gets out and wonders why he's near the bottom at Jokers and has fewer fans than Aaryn and just a few more than Amanda.

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and the other thing is that I believe McCrae and Amanda were talking about getting rid of Aaryn this week, because they were starting to worry about her, since she's the only one who has half a chance of beating them, --and so it looks like things are working out their way even more than it seems. Mind you, they were plotting this before Judd got back into the game

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Spencer can't beat those guys in a F2. He could beat GM because she's made some real enemies and Aaryn would not vote for her just out of spite and jealousy...probably the same with Amanda (McCrae will vote how she tells him to vote in this scenario). Candice sure won't vote for GM.

Seems like he has better options (as would Andy now that he knows Amanda would prefer to keep Aaryn because she'll do what she tells her to do), so the two of them could flip to Elissa and GM and just tease Judd long enough to get the other side out.

Not that I don't like Judd, but I could see him beating all 4 of those people with the jury, so whichever side he commits to, it would be crazy to risk him getting to the final 3.

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Unless production can truly rig the jury vote, I just don't see how Amanda could get the $500,000 check. Even if she stayed true to McCrae to the end, she'd have to personally attack him so badly to make her case, the jury would hate her even more than I assume they already will.

Yes, she has won 4 comps, but everyone knows Aaryn has made no decisions thus far that Amanda hasn't really made for her.

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Yeah, it's really baffling how much control Amanda has over everyone. She's basically gotten everyone to be willing to fall on their own swords so she and McCrae can advance. And it's weird that everyone is so afraid of them because she's an unstable flake and McCrae is a textbook passive beta male.

Andy is a weaselly little shit. He said that that's how he was going to play the game in the first episode, so at least he wasn't bullshitting us with false bravado.

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Well, I have to say I'm really impressed with Elissa. I know she's a little flaky, but she withstood a full court press of lies that have made much stronger players in other seasons fold and it really appeared it was working. Yet it completely appears like she didn't let the entire house (other than GM) push her around and she still claims to be putting Andy up. If she does, it may be the highlight of the season so far and it sure it more impressive to me than Aaryn winning 4 HOHs but never being able to make a decision on her own and always letting other people control her, especially Amanda.

I have no idea who is loyal to who right now, but this move alone will be priceless if it happens. And with Amanda and McCrae still left in the house, unless Aaryn wins another HOH (assuming she stays), it will only show how weak the remaining players are if the target Elissa or GM when they have a chance at Amanda and McCrae.

I desperately want to like Judd again, so I hope he's not playing Elissa and that he's just stupid for wanting GM up because he believes Andy is honest. But I'm afraid returning Judd is just as over-rated as double-elimination Judd.

Andy stated to Spencer that he was ready to go after Amanda and McCrae. That isn't something Andy would have said, I don't think, if he didn't mean it because he's pretty careful with what he says and to whom because if anyone knows about being a blabbermouth it's him.

So, since there was no game reason to lie to Spencer there, maybe people are finally ready to make this season interesting now rather than vote out a "safe" player yet again.

Aaryn this week and Amanda next? I would be SO HAPPY!!!

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He sure is. He has become very unlikeable. He is just a little rat.