Mad Men -- "To Have and to Hold" -- 4/21/13
 

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Synopsis:

The partners try to keep a secret campaign under wraps, while Joan gets a visit from an old friend.


Episode 4 of 13

Re: Mad Men -- "To Have and to Hold" -- 4/21/13
 

Loving this episode

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Great to see the bottle of Lancers at Joanie's apartment. But I was always a Mateus fan.

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I see what they did there with Joan and Don's secretary (I feel like I don't know half the character names -- if they didn't start out in the first season I usually struggle).

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It was great seeing Ted McGinley. It's been a while.

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Dawn. I'm bad with character names too, but I remember there was a scene dealing with the similarities of their names.

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That's what watching the show instead of reading a magazine will do for you.

Re: Mad Men -- "To Have and to Hold" -- 4/21/13
 

The scene where Harry bursts in to the partners meeting was classic.

Roger telling Joan to let Harry go on with his outburst had me in stitches. And as always, he got the best line, "Should we fire him before he cashes that check?"

Don is starting to feel like a dinosaur. He can't even handle his wife acting out a love scene while he's screwing the downstairs neighbor?

Pete continues his descent into completely mediocrity. :lol:

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I bet Don is thinking he should have given Peggy anything she wanted right about now.

Re: Mad Men -- "To Have and to Hold" -- 4/21/13
 

Don's hypocrisy remains boundless. I actually liked Don's ads better, but the dude wanted the bottle. Nice there was no Betty/Sally junk, and I really liked the line with Harry. He's absolutely right, actually. I'd be ticked too. However, a check worth more than a year's salary would calm me a bit...

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Roger's line at the end of that scene killed me.
Roger always gets the best lines.

Re: Mad Men -- "To Have and to Hold" -- 4/21/13
 

I was surprised there wasn't a harsher response to Harry after he essentially called Joan a whore in front of all the partners.

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I think that's the point, they don't really disagree with him. And besides, it's a shared shame between all of them.

Last night's episode was really good, even if we could all see the way Heinz would break form a mile away. I'm pretty sure Peggy will find her way back to SCDP, but for now, I'm enjoying her as the rival agency (I just wish we could spend more screen time with her creative team). I really wonder if Don would have such a hard time with Megan's scenes -- it seems so tame (even leaving the absurd hypocrisy aside). This has always been Don's show and we as an audience have always been in a position to relate to him and pull for him, but it's getting harder and harder to do now. He just seems like an out-of-date loser. Hope they turn things around for him soon - Hamm needs some non-sulky scenes this season if he's ever going to win that Emmy award that he has absurdly been denied so far.

Anyways, I really liked this episode. If not for being so overshadowed by the amazing Game of Thrones episode, I'm sure it would have been a very buzzed-about topic this morning.

Re: Mad Men -- "To Have and to Hold" -- 4/21/13
 

Yeah, that check would have at least given me pause. Good on Harry, though, for not falling for it. He deserved that commission, and their act of making it seem like a gift didn't work.

Re: Mad Men -- "To Have and to Hold" -- 4/21/13
 

Enjoyed the episode alot. Lots of good stuff.

:thumbsup: Really liked Marley Shelton as Joan's friend Kate. She has the look of a 60's girl.

The scenes with them hanging out at the psychedelic hangout was great. I liked how Joan just sat there and random dude walks up to her and starts making out with her. :lol:

:lol: at Joan and Kate waking up hung over together in bed. Wish they didn't have all their clothing on. ;)

:lol: at Harry. He was great going off in that meeting. Joan was kind of wishy washy in that scene. I wish she would have just straight forward said Scarlett was fired for commiting time card fraud.

Even though Roger didn't have alot of scenes, his lines are always memorable.

Ughhh at Don being a hypocrite with Megan. He was a dick for basically saying she was a whore for doing that love scene.

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Don's ads were nice, but Peggy nailed it. When she said "Imagine this, 50 feet high in Times Square", even I was imagining how good it would look.

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Doesn't matter, neither firm got the bid. It went to the largest ad agency in NYC instead.


BTW : Has any company ever gotten better free advertising on a quality TV show than Heinz did last night? And unlike The Apprentice or Survivor, this product placement felt 100% appropriate and genuine. The stockholders and the wife of the Secretary of State had to be thrilled.

Re: Mad Men -- "To Have and to Hold" -- 4/21/13
 

I must have missed that - did they say that towards the end of the episode?

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I thought ted chauoguguh said they bought it on the spot? and then pete gets annoyed because he paid for the room.

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That confused me at first too but in reading other stuff today, he said that they bought it from another agency.

Yes, they mentioned that both of them lost.

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Missed that too, as I think many did. Glad I checked here.

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I thought it was made pretty clear. That idiot Ted thought the two firms could commiserate on the loss (as they're both small agencies that lost out to a huge firm). Then after Kenny stops in to tell them they lost Baked Beans, I think Stan tells them they could try for that account now.

Re: Mad Men -- "To Have and to Hold" -- 4/21/13
 

Uh, I thought the guy that Peggy works for said they bought it right there in the room? Maybe I missed something.

I deleted the episode already, but I forgot what work Harry was upset about not being recognized for.

Re: Mad Men -- "To Have and to Hold" -- 4/21/13
 

^ The Dow Chemical 'Broadway Joe Namath' commercial