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wishbone 04-08-13 09:58 AM
Re: Game of Thrones -- "Dark Wings, Dark Words" -- 4/07/13
 
Originally Posted by fumanstan (Post 11644055)
Bran looks pretty old now.
Bran sounds pretty old now too -- "Nobody knows the trouble I've seen..."

spainlinx0 04-08-13 10:23 AM
Re: Game of Thrones -- "Dark Wings, Dark Words" -- 4/07/13
 
Originally Posted by bunkaroo (Post 11644265)
Am I the only one who though the scene between Shae and Tyrion was horribly written and acted? Stuck out like a sore thumb. I started having Attack of the Clones flashbacks.
I definitely felt the same way. I know everyone loves Peter Dinklage/Tyrion, but he's (the actor) not all that great to me, and she is even worse. I could not stop cringing while watching that scene. It really is a shame because I love the character.

The rest of the episode I found enjoyable, but over all too soon.

JasonF 04-08-13 10:24 AM
Re: Game of Thrones -- "Dark Wings, Dark Words" -- 4/07/13
 
Originally Posted by Astrofan (Post 11644242)
Er, Joffrey lives in a different world than ours.
Spoilers, please! Some of us haven't read the books yet.

Though I'm begining to understand why my love letter to Daenerys was returned undeliverable by the post office.

Mordred 04-08-13 10:41 AM
Re: Game of Thrones -- "Dark Wings, Dark Words" -- 4/07/13
 
Originally Posted by Josh-da-man (Post 11644223)
Just curious, but have any of the non-book readers figured out what happened to Winterfell and Theon Greyjoy?
Nobody in my group knows what's going on there (besides the two of us who've read the books).
Spoilered just in case:
Spoiler:
I think they should have specifically said something about them flaying Theon's finger... it might've helped a little.

boogieman03 04-08-13 11:11 AM
Re: Game of Thrones -- "Dark Wings, Dark Words" -- 4/07/13
 
:lol:
You could almost see Joffrey pop a stiffy when Margaery was talking about pulling the crossbow's trigger.

bunkaroo 04-08-13 11:22 AM
Re: Game of Thrones -- "Dark Wings, Dark Words" -- 4/07/13
 
Originally Posted by spainlinx0 (Post 11644340)
I definitely felt the same way. I know everyone loves Peter Dinklage/Tyrion, but he's (the actor) not all that great to me, and she is even worse. I could not stop cringing while watching that scene. It really is a shame because I love the character.

The rest of the episode I found enjoyable, but over all too soon.
FWIW I've loved Dinklage in this series so that's really the first bad scene I remember with him. I don't care for the actress or the character of Shae though. Hopefully that exposition is a prelude to a foul death for her.

Draven 04-08-13 11:23 AM
Re: Game of Thrones -- "Dark Wings, Dark Words" -- 4/07/13
 
Originally Posted by Why So Blu? (Post 11644258)
^ Haven't read the books, but it's starting to look obvious that besides Joffrey being The Mad King reincarnated he will probably be gay or just asexual. Notice in any of the last two seasons when hot women (whores or whoever) are at his presence, he's totally disinterested in them. Last night's episode had that hot little number (Margaery Tyrell ) with the tits at full display and all Joffrey does is curl his lip as if to say "ew, ew, ew, women, tits, ew."
Not a book spoiler - I'm just going off the show:

Joffery is still relatively young and inexperienced. He hasn't even really been shown alone with a woman who wasn't his mother, let alone one who he is betrothed to and seems totally into him.

His reaction was more "holy shit, this chick is hot...what do I do?" than anything.

rocket1312 04-08-13 11:31 AM
Re: Game of Thrones -- "Dark Wings, Dark Words" -- 4/07/13
 
Originally Posted by bunkaroo (Post 11644265)
Am I the only one who though the scene between Shae and Tyrion was horribly written and acted? Stuck out like a sore thumb. I started having Attack of the Clones flashbacks.
I didn't think it was awful, but Dinklage's accent is really starting to grate on me. It's not so bad when he's angry and/or agressive, but when he's talking in his "nice" voice (like he was in this scene), I start losing my patience quickly.

DeputyDave 04-08-13 11:34 AM
Re: Game of Thrones -- "Dark Wings, Dark Words" -- 4/07/13
 
Originally Posted by rocket1312 (Post 11644421)
I didn't think it was awful, but Dinklage's accent is really starting to grate on me. It's not so bad when he's angry and/or agressive, but when he's talking in his "nice" voice (like he was in this scene), I start losing my patience quickly.
Either it's the acting or it is inteded but I always get the feeling he is being fake when he is being "nice".

rocket1312 04-08-13 11:41 AM
Re: Game of Thrones -- "Dark Wings, Dark Words" -- 4/07/13
 
Originally Posted by DeputyDave (Post 11644427)
Either it's the acting or it is inteded but I always get the feeling he is being fake when he is being "nice".
It has occurred to me that he's being insincere when he speaks in that tone, but his relationship with Shae seems genuine enough. Either way, the voice still bugs me.

arminius 04-08-13 12:07 PM
Re: Game of Thrones -- "Dark Wings, Dark Words" -- 4/07/13
 
Originally Posted by Mordred (Post 11644359)
Nobody in my group knows what's going on there (besides the two of us who've read the books).
Spoilered just in case:
Spoiler:
I think they should have specifically said something about them flaying Theon's finger... it might've helped a little.
That would have helped.

Spoiler:
I guess they are going to do some big reveal when the escape goes bad.Or maybe Theon won't be emasculated on the show and he just gets away. The stuff in the books was pretty brutal for him. I wonder if the producers think it would be too much.

barelypure 04-08-13 12:08 PM
Re: Game of Thrones -- "Dark Wings, Dark Words" -- 4/07/13
 
Originally Posted by Draven (Post 11644415)
Not a book spoiler - I'm just going off the show:

Joffery is still relatively young and inexperienced. He hasn't even really been shown alone with a woman who wasn't his mother, let alone one who he is betrothed to and seems totally into him.

His reaction was more "holy shit, this chick is hot...what do I do?" than anything.
In season 2 didn't Tyrion set him up with 2 whores and it didn't go well for either of them. So he's had access to willing naked women but his cruel streak took over.

sven 04-08-13 01:00 PM
Re: Game of Thrones -- "Dark Wings, Dark Words" -- 4/07/13
 
Originally Posted by barelypure (Post 11644469)
In season 2 didn't Tyrion set him up with 2 whores and it didn't go well for either of them. So he's had access to willing naked women but his cruel streak took over.
It went better for Ros than the other girl I think.

Draven 04-08-13 01:42 PM
Re: Game of Thrones -- "Dark Wings, Dark Words" -- 4/07/13
 
Originally Posted by barelypure (Post 11644469)
In season 2 didn't Tyrion set him up with 2 whores and it didn't go well for either of them. So he's had access to willing naked women but his cruel streak took over.
That's true, but they were paid for. Margarey represents something entirely different.

Astrofan 04-08-13 02:09 PM
Re: Game of Thrones -- "Dark Wings, Dark Words" -- 4/07/13
 
Originally Posted by superdeluxe (Post 11644270)
It is a good thing that Bran grew up between season 2 and 3, any potential shipping with Bran and Meera no longer feels completely weird lol
-confused-

wishbone 04-08-13 02:12 PM
Re: Game of Thrones -- "Dark Wings, Dark Words" -- 4/07/13
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shipping_%28fandom%29

Shannon Nutt 04-08-13 02:28 PM
Re: Game of Thrones -- "Dark Wings, Dark Words" -- 4/07/13
 
Originally Posted by bunkaroo (Post 11644265)
Am I the only one who though the scene between Shae and Tyrion was horribly written and acted? Stuck out like a sore thumb. I started having Attack of the Clones flashbacks.
That's one of the scenes I was referring to...that was the only scene Dinklage was in, and it served no purprose from what I could tell...as if they just kept it in there so fans wouldn't complain he wasn't in the episode.

Draven 04-08-13 02:30 PM
Re: Game of Thrones -- "Dark Wings, Dark Words" -- 4/07/13
 
Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt (Post 11644697)
That's one of the scenes I was referring to...that was the only scene Dinklage was in, and it served no purprose from what I could tell...as if they just kept it in there so fans wouldn't complain he wasn't in the episode.
Is this rhetorical?

Astrofan 04-08-13 02:37 PM
Re: Game of Thrones -- "Dark Wings, Dark Words" -- 4/07/13
 
Originally Posted by wishbone (Post 11644660)
Thank you.

DaveyJoe 04-08-13 03:02 PM
Re: Game of Thrones -- "Dark Wings, Dark Words" -- 4/07/13
 
Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt (Post 11644697)
That's one of the scenes I was referring to...that was the only scene Dinklage was in, and it served no purprose from what I could tell...as if they just kept it in there so fans wouldn't complain he wasn't in the episode.
Spoiler:

There's actually quite a bit of foreshadowing in this scene.

superdeluxe 04-08-13 04:56 PM
Re: Game of Thrones -- "Dark Wings, Dark Words" -- 4/07/13
 
Originally Posted by superdeluxe (Post 11644270)
It is a good thing that Bran grew up between season 2 and 3, any potential shipping with Bran and Meera no longer feels completely weird lol
This isn't a spoiler is it?

pinata242 04-08-13 05:01 PM
Re: Game of Thrones -- "Dark Wings, Dark Words" -- 4/07/13
 
Wouldn't answering that be a spoiler?

The show introduced a young girl and her brother to a young adolescent's group. There's always the potential for shipping. Hell, there's potential between the Reeds themselves given the Lannisters' penchants.

superdeluxe 04-08-13 05:23 PM
Re: Game of Thrones -- "Dark Wings, Dark Words" -- 4/07/13
 
Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 11644996)
Wouldn't answering that be a spoiler?

The show introduced a young girl and her brother to a young adolescent's group. There's always the potential for shipping. Hell, there's potential between the Reeds themselves given the Lannisters' penchants.
Point taken!

StephenX 04-08-13 06:02 PM
Re: Game of Thrones -- "Dark Wings, Dark Words" -- 4/07/13
 
Originally Posted by Osiris3657 (Post 11644234)
From my understanding Theon's men didn't respect him as a leader, betrayed him and gave him up in order to return home safely to the Iron Islands. Theon's now being tortured by a group who sides with Robb Stark/Winterfell. Winterfell is now back under control of Robb/his allies.

Hope that's right.
To clarify, Robb does NOT know Theon is being held captive by the Bolton's. Roose Bolton told Robb last season that the Ironborn put Winterfell to the torch before they arrived. He did not tell Robb they had captured Theon. Robb assumes Theon is back at Pyke.

And for those who have not read the books (this isn't a spoiler), everything we see involving Theon is told via memories/flashbacks as Theon is absent from books 3 and 4, the show is just keeping him involved by showing rather than telling.

arminius 04-08-13 06:47 PM
Re: Game of Thrones -- "Dark Wings, Dark Words" -- 4/07/13
 
Originally Posted by StephenX (Post 11645086)
To clarify, Robb does NOT know Theon is being held captive by the Bolton's. Roose Bolton told Robb last season that the Ironborn put Winterfell to the torch before they arrived. He did not tell Robb they had captured Theon. Robb assumes Theon is back at Pyke.

And for those who have not read the books (this isn't a spoiler), everything we see involving Theon is told via memories/flashbacks as Theon is absent from books 3 and 4, the show is just keeping him involved by showing rather than telling.
Good God Man, now we know where Theon isn't.


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