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Game of Thrones (HBO) Season 4: Casting, News, Interviews
It's never too early to try to peel away conversation about season 4 characters and casting away from the weekly threads. Obviously this thread will contain spoilers if you haven't read the books. Read at your own risk.
On the heels of its big Season 3 premiere on Sunday, HBO‘s hit fantasy series Game Of Thrones has been renewed for a fourth season. Based on the bestselling fantasy book series by George R.R. Martin, Game Of Thrones hit series highs in its third season premiere, which averaged 4.4 million viewers, up 4% from GOT‘s previous series high posted by the second season finale (4.2 million) and up 13% from the series’ Season 2 opener. The upcoming Season 4 of GOT, created/executive produced by David Benioff and D. B. Weiss, is expected to feature a cameo by Martin, who serves as a co-executive producer on the show. From the S03E01 thread:
Originally Posted by DaveyJoe
(Post 11637800)
There's actually been a fair amount of fan speculation that Martin could play Wyman Manderly, a Stark bannerman known for his weight.
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I'm hoping for more giants, titties and dragons in the next episode.
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Originally Posted by wishbone
(Post 11637907)
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Aren't they going to catch up to where Martin is in the books soon? I mean, they have a couple of years, but still. Apparently he takes his time between them, but presumably everything will time out correctly.
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They'll have to get through season 5 or 6 to catch up with book 5. Book 6 is in the works. I would hope that only book 7 is the holdup, but the showrunners have enough info to conclude prior to or in parallel to the book.
I wouldn't be surprised if it takes 9 or 10 seasons to get to the end of book 7. 100 episodes has a nice ring to it. |
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Originally Posted by hanshotfirst113
(Post 11638180)
Aren't they going to catch up to where Martin is in the books soon? I mean, they have a couple of years, but still. Apparently he takes his time between them, but presumably everything will time out correctly.
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Originally Posted by pinata242
(Post 11638290)
They'll have to get through season 5 or 6 to catch up with book 5. Book 6 is in the works. I would hope that only book 7 is the holdup, but the showrunners have enough info to conclude prior to or in parallel to the book.
I wouldn't be surprised if it takes 9 or 10 seasons to get to the end of book 7. 100 episodes has a nice ring to it. Although you have to look at how quickly he banged out the first 3 (4 years total), then took 5 years for feast, then 6 more for dance, it's not looking good. I think if they catch up with book 7, they'll finish it their own way before the book is done (they have the outline of what happens already). |
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Originally Posted by Dave99
(Post 11638413)
yeah, S3 & S4 will only cover storm, it'll take probably 3 or perhaps 4 seasons to cover feast of crows and dance of dragons.
Although you have to look at how quickly he banged out the first 3 (4 years total), then took 5 years for feast, then 6 more for dance, it's not looking good. I think if they catch up with book 7, they'll finish it their own way before the book is done (they have the outline of what happens already). |
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Lets at least hope they cover those two books in just a couple of seasons. If they really try to string it out the way Martin has I fear the audience will wander off and we might not get to see the conclusion filmed at all. So far they have left out Strong Belwas which should leave us hopeful that they are planning to truncate much of the pointless filler which Martin waded in for his last couple of books. Fingers crossed, anyway..!
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Originally Posted by johnnysd
(Post 11638565)
I am not sure of that. I think that FoC and DoD could be covered in 2 seasons as not much happens especially since there will already be elements of those books in this season and next. There is a lot of filler in those books.
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Originally Posted by Dave99
(Post 11638413)
yeah, S3 & S4 will only cover storm, it'll take probably 3 or perhaps 4 seasons to cover feast of crows and dance of dragons.
Although you have to look at how quickly he banged out the first 3 (4 years total), then took 5 years for feast, then 6 more for dance, it's not looking good. I think if they catch up with book 7, they'll finish it their own way before the book is done (they have the outline of what happens already). And it wouldn't surprise me at all if he expanded the series into eight or more books before all is said and done. |
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http://winteriscoming.net/2013/05/ca...-4-mace-tyrell
WIC takes a look at casting Mace Tyrell. Who do you guys think? Hugh Bonneville? Jim Broadbent? |
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Originally Posted by superdeluxe
(Post 11675840)
http://winteriscoming.net/2013/05/ca...-4-mace-tyrell
WIC takes a look at casting Mace Tyrell. Who do you guys think? Hugh Bonneville? Jim Broadbent? |
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Originally Posted by wishbone
(Post 11637907)
I'm hoping for more giants, titties and dragons in the next episode.
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Originally Posted by pinata242
(Post 11637900)
I sure hope this isn't true because of how big (pun intended) of a character Manderly is in book 5.
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Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
(Post 11639551)
I don't see Martin getting book seven out in less than ten years.
And it wouldn't surprise me at all if he expanded the series into eight or more books before all is said and done. I'm wondering if Martin has writer's block, is allowing the distractions to interfere with his writing, or has just fallen so in love with his characters that he can't bear to end the saga. I wish he'd quit treading water, stop treating the story like the Holy Grail, and just get on with the characters he already has created and give his loyal readers a satisfying conclusion. He's already flirting with shark-jumping (not revealing anything here) and tampered a bit with one of the main strengths of the whole thing, and the filler in Books 4 & 5 demonstrates that it's not as if every word he writes is gold. So just get on with it. If he wants to revisit the characters, he can always produce prequels & side stories. I'm afraid that what, if he's not careful, he's going to produce the literary equivalent of what Peter Jackson is doing with The Hobbit. All of the parts which should be short story material, appendices, etc. is ending up in the published manuscript. The same thing happened with Stephen King when he experienced runaway success...his early tightly-plotted writing successes gave way to bloated, self-indulgence in much of his later work. Initially I was disappointed at the thought that HBO might have to strike out on their own to finish the series according to Martin's outline, but that would be preferable to endless meandering or delays while Martin contemplates his navel. Maybe The Mountain can get his own spinoff. |
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As for the castings, I can't remember one notable scene with mace tryell, don't think you need to spend big money on that casting. red viper OTOH...
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Originally Posted by johnnysd
(Post 11638565)
I am not sure of that. I think that FoC and DoD could be covered in 2 seasons as not much happens especially since there will already be elements of those books in this season and next. There is a lot of filler in those books.
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I remember years ago in a book thread, I was bemoaning what had happened to the Wheel of Time series, and saying I'd never start another contemporary multi-book fantasy series until it was completed. Everybody swore to me that Game of Thrones should be my exception, that it was too good to wait, and that GRR Martin would never succumb to filler, dragging his heels, writer's block, or whatever it is that makes a decent series peter out into near-worthlessness once the author has some clout.
I'm glad I didn't listen. I love the TV show. Whether I ever read the books, well, I guess it still depends. |
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Originally Posted by adamblast
(Post 11676186)
I remember years ago in a book thread, I was memoaning what had happened to the Wheel of Time series, and saying I'd never start another contemporary multi-book fantasy series until it was completed. Everybody swore to me that Game of Thrones should be my exception, that it was too good to wait, and that GRR Martin would never succumb to filler, dragging his heels, writer's block, or whatever it is that makes a decent series peter out into near-worthlessness once the author has some clout.
I'm glad I didn't listen. I love the TV show. Whether I ever read the books, well, I guess it still depends. |
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Originally Posted by adamblast
(Post 11676186)
I remember years ago in a book thread, I was bemoaning what had happened to the Wheel of Time series, and saying I'd never start another contemporary multi-book fantasy series until it was completed. Everybody swore to me that Game of Thrones should be my exception, that it was too good to wait, and that GRR Martin would never succumb to filler, dragging his heels, writer's block, or whatever it is that makes a decent series peter out into near-worthlessness once the author has some clout.
I'm glad I didn't listen. I love the TV show. Whether I ever read the books, well, I guess it still depends. |
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Originally Posted by johnnysd
(Post 11676482)
While there are growing similarities to the writing arc of WOT, you really do yourself a dis-service not reading the books. There is a reason season 3 is so good as it may be based on the best fantasy book ever written, it is really that good. Even books 4 and 5 are extremely well written but somewhat self indulgent and overly padded. Still worth reading. There are some awesome events in books 4 and 5 that will quite possibly make the TV show better than those books. But I would read them if I were you. The frustration of waiting is mostly worth it in this case.
When it comes to series, I'd rather read the whole thing at once while it's still fresh in memory than wait years and years between installments. I've been waiting twenty years for the final installment of Clive Barker's "Art" trilogy. |
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David Benioff & D.B. Weiss, Game of Thrones writers and executive producers, appeared on KCRW’s UpClose a couple weeks ago. David & Dan talk about their background, the genesis of the show, the adaptation process and more in an entertaining and enlightening hour. This conversation was recorded live as part of KCRW’s UpClose series One bit of news to come out of this interview: Season 4 is set to begin filming on July 8th. http://i.imgur.com/2CEnVpR.jpg |
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I agree that the first three books will be better than the show's first 4 seasons, but I have to believe that seasons 5 and 6 will be better than the last two books: Feast of Bores and Where Do Whores Go.
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