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DJariya 01-28-13 12:59 PM

Dallas -- 2 Hour Premiere -- "Battle Lines/Venomous Creatures" -- 1/28/13
 
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Synopsis:

Season 2 opens with Christopher and John Ross dueling over the vision for Ewing Energies. Meanwhile, Christopher seeks a divorce from Rebecca as a revelation upends the whole family; John Ross launches a scheme of revenge; Ann is blackmailed by her former husband.

A battle for the control of Ewing Energies rages; Elena tries to gain prominence in the company; John Ross schemes with Pamela Rebecca Barnes to seize Christopher's company shares.


15 episode 2nd season


RIP Larry Hagman

If you aren't aware, he reportedly filmed 6 episodes before he died last year.

If your wondering how JR will be written out:

Spoiler:
He will be murdered.



FYI, It was reported that Ted Shackleford and Joan Van Ark will appear in season 2 at some point.

RocShemp 01-28-13 01:27 PM

Re: Dallas -- 2 Hour Premiere -- "Battle Lines/Venomous Creatures" -- 1/28/13
 
Can't wait. Although rough around the edges, I enjoyed last season. And I wanna see Larry Hagman's last episodes.

mwbmis 01-28-13 05:11 PM

Re: Dallas -- 2 Hour Premiere -- "Battle Lines/Venomous Creatures" -- 1/28/13
 

Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 11556981)
FYI, It was reported that Ted Shackleford and Joan Van Ark will appear in season 2 at some point.

I would have rather they left Valene in California. It's fair to say that JVA has had some work done.

mikehunt 01-28-13 07:02 PM

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I've liked the continuation so far
I've also just started getting the dvds of the original through netflix. I vaguely remember some of the last few seasons since my parents watched it when I was a kid so I figured I'd go through the whole series

tellybox 01-28-13 11:14 PM

Re: Dallas -- 2 Hour Premiere -- "Battle Lines/Venomous Creatures" -- 1/28/13
 

Originally Posted by mwbmis (Post 11557305)
I would have rather they left Valene in California. It's fair to say that JVA has had some work done.

It's funny you should mention that. I was watching the Primetime Soaps episode of the latest PBS docu-series Pioneers of Television (check it out if you haven't already!), and was quite shocked to see how tight her face was. The same goes for all the leading ladies from Knots, Dallas, and Dynasty. Quite startling/funny.

DJariya 01-29-13 12:59 AM

Re: Dallas -- 2 Hour Premiere -- "Battle Lines/Venomous Creatures" -- 1/28/13
 
Watching the premiere of Dallas now.

Nice little introduction at the beginning from Patrick Duffy and Linda Gray talking about Hagman.

DJariya 01-29-13 01:03 AM

Re: Dallas -- 2 Hour Premiere -- "Battle Lines/Venomous Creatures" -- 1/28/13
 
:lol: at John Ross. Banging some engaged chick at her Bachelorette party. What a whore.

Then blackmailing her father with a sex video of her to get that trucking deal done.

:lol: love is for pussies.

DJariya 01-29-13 01:09 AM

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Damn John Ross' secretary is smoking hot.

DJariya 01-29-13 01:17 AM

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So we meet the real Rebecca. Her brother was the one who conspired with Cliff Barnes daughter last season.

DJariya 01-29-13 01:33 AM

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Uhh ohhh, Christopher learning he banged his cousin. :lol: Pamela Barnes.

Damn, Ann's daughter is one cold bitch.

DJariya 01-29-13 01:55 AM

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Good 1st hour. Everything you could ask for in an episode of Dallas.

Just realized the girl who played Ann's daughter was the girlfriend on Final Destination 5 and also played Andrea's sister on The Walking Dead. Man she was cold to her mother. Ryland must have said some shit about Ann to her.

:lol: the twist at the end was great with John Ross stealing away the real Rebecca.

I don't know how Sue Ellen can get out of blackmail allegations (especially when they are 100% true. :lol:)

Does anyone find the scar on Julie Gonzalo's face a little distracting?

Will have to watch hour 2 tomorrow after work.

riley_dude 01-29-13 01:59 AM

Re: Dallas -- 2 Hour Premiere -- "Battle Lines/Venomous Creatures" -- 1/28/13
 
Bring on Gary and Val.

dex14 01-29-13 05:25 AM

Re: Dallas -- 2 Hour Premiere -- "Battle Lines/Venomous Creatures" -- 1/28/13
 

Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 11557710)
Good 1st hour. Everything you could ask for in an episode of Dallas.

Just realized the girl who played Ann's daughter was the girlfriend on Final Destination 5 and also played Andrea's sister on The Walking Dead. Man she was cold to her mother. Ryland must have said some shit about Ann to her.

:lol: the twist at the end was great with John Ross stealing away the real Rebecca.

I don't know how Sue Ellen can get out of blackmail allegations (especially when they are 100% true. :lol:)

Does anyone find the scar on Julie Gonzalo's face a little distracting?

Will have to watch hour 2 tomorrow after work.

She's also banging Tarantino.



Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 11557707)
Uhh ohhh, Christopher learning he banged his cousin. :lol: Pamela Barnes.

Damn, Ann's daughter is one cold bitch.

I don't think there is any blood ties right?

RocShemp 01-29-13 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dex14 (Post 11557750)
She's also banging Tarantino.

The director or the DVDtalk poster?

dex14 01-29-13 06:47 AM

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The director...haha

DJariya 01-29-13 07:24 AM

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No blood ties. Cousins in name only. Chris was adopted.

Joe Schmoe 01-29-13 07:49 AM

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It was no surprise who Christopher's wife really is. I hope Cliff starts making more appearances, and I hope they explain why Christopher never knew his cousin, Pamela, until now. If Cliff only recently learned her had a daughter, that would explain it but it wouldn't explain why she would go to such extremes for a father she barely knew. Did he know about her for years but keep her a secret from Bobby and Christopher? Why would he do that? When the original show ended, Bobby and Cliff were friends, and Cliff had a relationship with his nephew, so it doesn't make sense that he would keep his daughter a secret from them.

The scenes for the rest of the season showed the guy who had Marta Del Sol killed coming back. This is pure speculation: maybe he puts a hit on J.R. and that's how J.R. dies.

riley_dude 01-29-13 10:29 AM

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Is Anne's daughter going to be an ongoing cast member?

DJariya 01-29-13 10:36 AM

Re: Dallas -- 2 Hour Premiere -- "Battle Lines/Venomous Creatures" -- 1/28/13
 

Originally Posted by riley_dude (Post 11557994)
Is Anne's daughter going to be an ongoing cast member?

She's going to be a regular.

RocShemp 01-29-13 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 11557997)
She's going to be a regular.

Nice. I liked her in TWD.

Shannon Nutt 01-29-13 02:30 PM

Re: Dallas -- 2 Hour Premiere -- "Battle Lines/Venomous Creatures" -- 1/28/13
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Judith Light is playing Mitch Pileggi's MOTHER?! She's THREE years older than him, for cryin' out loud!

Anyway, I thought it was a decent two episodes. As was the case last season, Hagman's scenes are by far the best (I'm not sure DALLAS can survive without him...we'll see). Josh Henderson has improved leaps and bounds over last season's work...looks like Larry was able to pass along some good acting advice. The same can't be said of the other younger actors.

Red Dog 01-29-13 08:46 PM

Re: Dallas -- 2 Hour Premiere -- "Battle Lines/Venomous Creatures" -- 1/28/13
 

Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt (Post 11558307)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Judith Light is playing Mitch Pileggi's MOTHER?! She's THREE years older than him, for cryin' out loud!

Anyway, I thought it was a decent two episodes. As was the case last season, Hagman's scenes are by far the best (I'm not sure DALLAS can survive without him...we'll see). Josh Henderson has improved leaps and bounds over last season's work...looks like Larry was able to pass along some good acting advice. The same can't be said of the other younger actors.

That was the very first thing I was going to say here. That made no sense. They look the same age. rotfl I like Judith Light, but they could have done a better casting job there.

But some good classic Dallas backstabbing going on.

DJariya 01-30-13 01:27 AM

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JR: I'm one for one with flushing out Pamela's. I plan to be two for two. :lol:

DJariya 01-30-13 01:54 AM

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rotfl

Judith Light as Mitch Pileggi's mother??? Lmao!!! That was probably the most hilarious casting decision I have ever seen on a TV show.

Hour 2 was great. Lots of backstabbing. JR was the highlight of hour 2 :lol: at how he managed to find some dirt on that State Attorney.

You know Pamela looks pretty good for someone who is supposedly pregnant with twins. How much time has transpired since last season? I assume not very much if Pam isn't even showing yet.

dex14 01-30-13 05:24 AM

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Ratings were down 60%

Joe Schmoe 01-30-13 07:32 AM

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They must have filmed this season during Spring or Summer because I noticed the lawn around Southfork was finally green (as opposed to last season when the lawn looked dead and the actors were bundled up in coats). What's with the Christmas lights on Southfork's roof?

The Valeyard 01-30-13 07:41 PM

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Great premiere episodes. Josh Henderson really stepped up to the plate and for the first time, I could believe he was JR's son. Larry Hagman had his JR charm back (which I thought was somewhat missing during the first season) and it was nice to see him back at full steam. Too bad we're only getting a few more episodes with him.

Nice intro with Duffy and Gray. I hope the show can continue without Hagman.

John Galt 01-31-13 01:58 PM

Re: Dallas -- 2 Hour Premiere -- "Battle Lines/Venomous Creatures" -- 1/28/13
 

Originally Posted by Joe Schmoe (Post 11557809)
It was no surprise who Christopher's wife really is. I hope Cliff starts making more appearances, and I hope they explain why Christopher never knew his cousin, Pamela, until now. If Cliff only recently learned her had a daughter, that would explain it but it wouldn't explain why she would go to such extremes for a father she barely knew. Did he know about her for years but keep her a secret from Bobby and Christopher? Why would he do that? When the original show ended, Bobby and Cliff were friends, and Cliff had a relationship with his nephew, so it doesn't make sense that he would keep his daughter a secret from them.

The scenes for the rest of the season showed the guy who had Marta Del Sol killed coming back. This is pure speculation: maybe he puts a hit on J.R. and that's how J.R. dies.

I've been curious about all these different relationships, especially since so much time has passed since the original storylines, but I saw this on wikipedia:

"In 1985, Afton gave birth to Cliff's daughter, Pamela "Pammie" Rebecca Cooper, though at first Afton denied the paternity."

Was this part of the original series? I guess this would be around Season 7-8 time? I don't recall this at all, but there haven't been any details about Afton denying paternity so far in Season 16.

Also, keep in mind Christopher and John Ross are cousins by blood, despite Christopher being adopted. That was bothering me during last season when John Ross kept saying that they aren't even family.

Shannon Nutt 01-31-13 02:15 PM

Re: Dallas -- 2 Hour Premiere -- "Battle Lines/Venomous Creatures" -- 1/28/13
 

Originally Posted by John Galt (Post 11560678)
Also, keep in mind Christopher and John Ross are cousins by blood, despite Christopher being adopted. That was bothering me during last season when John Ross kept saying that they aren't even family.

J.R. never accepted Ray Krebbs as a Ewing (even though they had the same father), so it's only natural that John Ross wouldn't either, even though Christopher is the son of Sue Ellen's sister.

mikehunt 01-31-13 07:34 PM

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granted I only have a few episodes of season 1 and 2 from netflix and vague memories of the last few seasons when I was a kid, but JR was a much better villain than john ross.
sure JR was a back stabber and did some really dirty shit but he did it with style. john ross is more of a whiney little cry baby bitch with a little skill at manipulation

Eddie W 01-31-13 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Schmoe (Post 11559002)
They must have filmed this season during Spring or Summer because I noticed the lawn around Southfork was finally green (as opposed to last season when the lawn looked dead and the actors were bundled up in coats). What's with the Christmas lights on Southfork's roof?

Grass stays green in Dallas until around Thanksgiving, but yeah they've been shooting almost since last season ended. I think they were five episodes in when Hagman died in November.

Joe Schmoe 01-31-13 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by John Galt (Post 11560678)
I've been curious about all these different relationships, especially since so much time has passed since the original storylines, but I saw this on wikipedia:

"In 1985, Afton gave birth to Cliff's daughter, Pamela "Pammie" Rebecca Cooper, though at first Afton denied the paternity."

Was this part of the original series? I guess this would be around Season 7-8 time? I don't recall this at all, but there haven't been any details about Afton denying paternity so far in Season 16.

I remember Cliff hired someone to track down Afton, and I think he caught up with her in New Orleans. I remember Afton denying her daughter was Cliff's even though it was obvious to Cliff and viewers she was his daughter because Afton named her after Cliff's sister and mother, who were both fond of Afton. I don't think she ever confirmed to Cliff that her daughter was his on the show, but Cliff finally met his daughter and reunited with Afton in the first reunion movie, J.R. Returns. However, the producers of the new Dallas have gone on record saying they're ignoring the two reunion movies.

John Galt 02-01-13 10:39 AM

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Ahh, that vaguely rings a bell. I might have to pull out the DVDs and rewatch some of those episodes.

Also saw where
Spoiler:
Afton
will be appearing this season.

elijahmagallon 02-01-13 12:33 PM

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I thought these first 2 episodes were great. It felt much more like 'Dallas' than last season, with the in-office scenes, and I loved that the first thing that John Ross does when going into the Barnes Global office is pour himself a drink - just what JR used to do in the old days.

Shannon Nutt 02-01-13 02:32 PM

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We can only hope TNT renews it and realizes the mistake they made by airing it in the winter. It should be on during the summer, where there's less competition from the main networks.

elijahmagallon 02-01-13 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt (Post 11562084)
We can only hope TNT renews it and realizes the mistake they made by airing it in the winter. It should be on during the summer, where there's less competition from the main networks.

Absolutely, I almost can't bear the thought of not having it back for a few years, almost like they'd tease us with it and then take it away again!

Shannon Nutt 02-01-13 04:47 PM

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Casting spoiler (a "major" star from the 70s!):
Spoiler:
Lee Majors is signed to play an old love interest of Sue Ellen's.

TGM 02-02-13 05:28 AM

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Julie Gonzalo's (Pamela Barnes) facial scar/wrinkle is awfully distracting.

GuessWho 02-02-13 07:48 AM

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In one two-hour block, John Ross got with a bachelorette and a pregnant woman. Nice.

PhantomStranger 02-02-13 03:01 PM

Re: Dallas -- 2 Hour Premiere -- "Battle Lines/Venomous Creatures" -- 1/28/13
 

Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt (Post 11558307)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Judith Light is playing Mitch Pileggi's MOTHER?! She's THREE years older than him, for cryin' out loud!

Anyway, I thought it was a decent two episodes. As was the case last season, Hagman's scenes are by far the best (I'm not sure DALLAS can survive without him...we'll see). Josh Henderson has improved leaps and bounds over last season's work...looks like Larry was able to pass along some good acting advice. The same can't be said of the other younger actors.

Awful casting, I have no idea why they cast an actress that young for the role. She also looked ridiculous, whatever was going on with her hair.

You are so right, this show is going to take a huge hit when the scenes with Hagman run out. Other than him and John Ross, every other character on the show is a two-dimensional caricature.

Originally Posted by TallGuyMe (Post 11562802)
Julie Gonzalo's (Pamela Barnes) facial scar/wrinkle is awfully distracting.

It was noticeable but not objectionable in season one. The make-up in these two episodes did nothing to hide it and had it looking much, much worse.


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