Wayward Pines (FOX) premieres 5/14/15 - S: Dillon, Howard, Gugino - Season 1 Thread
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I'm on the fence. I'll probably stick with it until the twist but it's not winning me over right now.
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I can't wait for this to crossover with Terra Nova! That's the reason they will die beyond the walls, Raptors!
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Read in an interview that by episode 5 we will know nearly everything and the remaining episode will be about everyone dealing with it.
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Two episodes in and it's okay. Dialogue isn't terribly polished, but it's got a solid cast and I'm somewhat intrigued as to what is going on exactly. It's familiar territory though (Persons Unknown, anyone?)
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Someone told me the twist this week and I think it's going to be very polarizing. Having said that, I think it would have been a cool twist for Lost.
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So they killed off another lead character. The differing times for each person in Wayward Pines leads me to believe everyone is a clone or something of the original person that died. It feels like a government experiment. The tone has held up through 3 episodes better than I imagined, though the strangeness may eventually collapse under its own weight.
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I watched episodes 2 and 3 today. Having read books, I was not surprised by the deaths, but I thought the second character death would have happened in a later episode. Small possible spoilers
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Anyone else watching the companion webisodes on fox.com/gone ?
They are lousy with product placement and bad acting but are interesting.
They are lousy with product placement and bad acting but are interesting.
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Just watched the 1st 3 episodes. It has its flaws but I kinda like it so far.
Also the son is annoying.
Also the son is annoying.
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Those animals screams near the end was kind of freaky.
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I don't want to make this like a Game of Thrones thread full of book spoilers (especially since it looks like only a couple of us have read the books), but here's a plot thread that apparently is getting skipped.
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OK, question: Ethan escapes and Pilcher goes after him and tells him they are in the future. In the meantime the teacher is indoctrinating the kids that they've jumped 2000 years into the future. The road guy tells the wife that he saw people in pods. If I buy the whole suspended animation scenario how was the sheriff able to go back and intercept the wife and kid driving in from Seattle to cause their accident and still be around 2000 years later when they emerged. Same question as to the nurse. Both are occupying 2 time lines. The real estate guy said they get 2 to 3 new people every month. I'm assuming they are being released from the pods. But someone, actually a lot of someones over the 2000 years, had to be the caretaker for the pods. If the abbies have taken over the world and it doesn't exist how we know it there has to be some type of time travel. And if there is time travel then just go back to when the abbies started and kill the 1st ones. Problem solved and no Wayward Pines.
Maybe I just over think these shows. It would have made more sense to keep everything present day while the abbies take over. Then the new arrivals could be people escaping to WP.
Maybe I just over think these shows. It would have made more sense to keep everything present day while the abbies take over. Then the new arrivals could be people escaping to WP.
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OK, question: Ethan escapes and Pilcher goes after him and tells him they are in the future. In the meantime the teacher is indoctrinating the kids that they've jumped 2000 years into the future. The road guy tells the wife that he saw people in pods. If I buy the whole suspended animation scenario how was the sheriff able to go back and intercept the wife and kid driving in from Seattle to cause their accident and still be around 2000 years later when they emerged. Same question as to the nurse. Both are occupying 2 time lines. The real estate guy said they get 2 to 3 new people every month. I'm assuming they are being released from the pods. But someone, actually a lot of someones over the 2000 years, had to be the caretaker for the pods. If the abbies have taken over the world and it doesn't exist how we know it there has to be some type of time travel. And if there is time travel then just go back to when the abbies started and kill the 1st ones. Problem solved and no Wayward Pines.
Maybe I just over think these shows. It would have made more sense to keep everything present day while the abbies take over. Then the new arrivals could be people escaping to WP.
Maybe I just over think these shows. It would have made more sense to keep everything present day while the abbies take over. Then the new arrivals could be people escaping to WP.
What makes absolutely no sense is why they can tell the kids and not the adults. To think that a child in their teens is better at accepting this fate is ridiculous. The idea that kids aren't going to tell their parents is really flimsy as well. It's hard to believe that only one kid did so. Also, by creating this big brother type society, it's inevitably going to lead to violence by the adults. Why not just let them in on what's going on and accept that some people are going to kill themselves over it? And how many people do you need to create a new society? It seems like there are enough people to reproduce and keep the population healthy.
I can understand this type of twist working in a novel. It just doesn't work well in this show. The expository scenes made the entire episode agonizing IMO.
One question that I have and maybe book readers can answer this. Why is it that Ethan can climb out of Wayward Pines but the Abbies haven't climbed down into it? It seems like a huge security flaw.
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Re: The "First Generation", showrunner Chad Hodge says:
TVLINE | Oh, the First Generation isn’t part of the books?
HODGE: No, that’s something that I created for the show, mostly thinking that the future of this town and the last of humanity is going to be these kids, so ideally nobody would be in the dark. What you’ll see is that there are reasons that they had to keep the adults in the dark, because as Megan Fisher hinted, adults can’t handle the truth. I liken it to when you’re in third or fourth grade and your teacher teaches you about the planets and space and galaxies, all of this stuff that you can’t actually see or touch but you accept it and you learn it and you don’t think it’s crazy. But if you knew nothing of that and you’re a 40-year-old guy, and someone on the street tries to sell this “bill of goods,” that there are nine planets out there, you’d think this person was crazy, because as adults you can’t accept things like that. But the mind of a child… is much more open to new ideas. Telling them and making them feel special and all of that is integral to Wayward Pines and to the way that Pilcher envisioned it.
Personally, though, I think this is the weakest element of the reveal. Watching it play out on the show, I wondered if the books were in the YA category (like "Hunger Games" or "Insurgent") since it gives you yet another dystopia ruled by evil and/or foolish adults and the only hope is the far wiser younger characters. Of course, now I can't blame the books...
TVLINE | Oh, the First Generation isn’t part of the books?
HODGE: No, that’s something that I created for the show, mostly thinking that the future of this town and the last of humanity is going to be these kids, so ideally nobody would be in the dark. What you’ll see is that there are reasons that they had to keep the adults in the dark, because as Megan Fisher hinted, adults can’t handle the truth. I liken it to when you’re in third or fourth grade and your teacher teaches you about the planets and space and galaxies, all of this stuff that you can’t actually see or touch but you accept it and you learn it and you don’t think it’s crazy. But if you knew nothing of that and you’re a 40-year-old guy, and someone on the street tries to sell this “bill of goods,” that there are nine planets out there, you’d think this person was crazy, because as adults you can’t accept things like that. But the mind of a child… is much more open to new ideas. Telling them and making them feel special and all of that is integral to Wayward Pines and to the way that Pilcher envisioned it.
Personally, though, I think this is the weakest element of the reveal. Watching it play out on the show, I wondered if the books were in the YA category (like "Hunger Games" or "Insurgent") since it gives you yet another dystopia ruled by evil and/or foolish adults and the only hope is the far wiser younger characters. Of course, now I can't blame the books...
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Call me crazy but I really like Wayward Pines so far, even after the big reveal. Everything doesn't quite jive with what we've been told, I think there must be more that hasn't been revealed. Why exactly all the secrecy from the town's citizens and if these are truly the last humans, why would they get killed off if they don't tow the line? I am not sure this is really 2000 thousand years in the future.
I think we are going to find out a more sinister origin for the Abbies than what we were told.
I think we are going to find out a more sinister origin for the Abbies than what we were told.
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No time travel as far as I can tell. Pilcher discovered that the genetic mutation was set to be our evolutionary future so he started to plan this future community. If I understand correctly, the cop and the nurse helped him with picking and capturing the people who would be unfrozen in Wayward Pines. I'm assuming that since the teacher is the wife of the mayor, that they are also in on it. They seem to unfreeze people over time which is why Juliette Lewis thought she was still in the 80's and Carla Gugino said she's been there for 10 years. I'm assuming that is so they can handle the adults in an orderly fashion.
What makes absolutely no sense is why they can tell the kids and not the adults. To think that a child in their teens is better at accepting this fate is ridiculous. The idea that kids aren't going to tell their parents is really flimsy as well. It's hard to believe that only one kid did so. Also, by creating this big brother type society, it's inevitably going to lead to violence by the adults. Why not just let them in on what's going on and accept that some people are going to kill themselves over it? And how many people do you need to create a new society? It seems like there are enough people to reproduce and keep the population healthy.
I can understand this type of twist working in a novel. It just doesn't work well in this show. The expository scenes made the entire episode agonizing IMO.
One question that I have and maybe book readers can answer this. Why is it that Ethan can climb out of Wayward Pines but the Abbies haven't climbed down into it? It seems like a huge security flaw.
What makes absolutely no sense is why they can tell the kids and not the adults. To think that a child in their teens is better at accepting this fate is ridiculous. The idea that kids aren't going to tell their parents is really flimsy as well. It's hard to believe that only one kid did so. Also, by creating this big brother type society, it's inevitably going to lead to violence by the adults. Why not just let them in on what's going on and accept that some people are going to kill themselves over it? And how many people do you need to create a new society? It seems like there are enough people to reproduce and keep the population healthy.
I can understand this type of twist working in a novel. It just doesn't work well in this show. The expository scenes made the entire episode agonizing IMO.
One question that I have and maybe book readers can answer this. Why is it that Ethan can climb out of Wayward Pines but the Abbies haven't climbed down into it? It seems like a huge security flaw.
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Call me crazy but I really like Wayward Pines so far, even after the big reveal. Everything doesn't quite jive with what we've been told, I think there must be more that hasn't been revealed. Why exactly all the secrecy from the town's citizens and if these are truly the last humans, why would they get killed off if they don't tow the line? I am not sure this is really 2000 thousand years in the future.
I think we are going to find out a more sinister origin for the Abbies than what we were told.
I think we are going to find out a more sinister origin for the Abbies than what we were told.
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Re: The "First Generation", showrunner Chad Hodge says:
TVLINE | Oh, the First Generation isn’t part of the books?
HODGE: No, that’s something that I created for the show, mostly thinking that the future of this town and the last of humanity is going to be these kids, so ideally nobody would be in the dark. What you’ll see is that there are reasons that they had to keep the adults in the dark, because as Megan Fisher hinted, adults can’t handle the truth. I liken it to when you’re in third or fourth grade and your teacher teaches you about the planets and space and galaxies, all of this stuff that you can’t actually see or touch but you accept it and you learn it and you don’t think it’s crazy. But if you knew nothing of that and you’re a 40-year-old guy, and someone on the street tries to sell this “bill of goods,” that there are nine planets out there, you’d think this person was crazy, because as adults you can’t accept things like that. But the mind of a child… is much more open to new ideas. Telling them and making them feel special and all of that is integral to Wayward Pines and to the way that Pilcher envisioned it.
Personally, though, I think this is the weakest element of the reveal. Watching it play out on the show, I wondered if the books were in the YA category (like "Hunger Games" or "Insurgent") since it gives you yet another dystopia ruled by evil and/or foolish adults and the only hope is the far wiser younger characters. Of course, now I can't blame the books...
TVLINE | Oh, the First Generation isn’t part of the books?
HODGE: No, that’s something that I created for the show, mostly thinking that the future of this town and the last of humanity is going to be these kids, so ideally nobody would be in the dark. What you’ll see is that there are reasons that they had to keep the adults in the dark, because as Megan Fisher hinted, adults can’t handle the truth. I liken it to when you’re in third or fourth grade and your teacher teaches you about the planets and space and galaxies, all of this stuff that you can’t actually see or touch but you accept it and you learn it and you don’t think it’s crazy. But if you knew nothing of that and you’re a 40-year-old guy, and someone on the street tries to sell this “bill of goods,” that there are nine planets out there, you’d think this person was crazy, because as adults you can’t accept things like that. But the mind of a child… is much more open to new ideas. Telling them and making them feel special and all of that is integral to Wayward Pines and to the way that Pilcher envisioned it.
Personally, though, I think this is the weakest element of the reveal. Watching it play out on the show, I wondered if the books were in the YA category (like "Hunger Games" or "Insurgent") since it gives you yet another dystopia ruled by evil and/or foolish adults and the only hope is the far wiser younger characters. Of course, now I can't blame the books...
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It just seems like there are too many holes in the story that they are 2000 years into the future. It would have been more believable to keep everything present day with the abbies evolving from some accident or other and then wiping out the surrounding communities.
Who built the wall? Who kept the pod people safe for 2000 years? The pod people would have included the sheriff and Pilcher so who was in charge? Remember the food supply truck, where does it come from and where does the food come from? There doesn't appear to be any farms or manufacturing facilities to produce the packaged goods or even clothing.
No there's too many unexplained holes. I'll keep watching as it is entertaining to see if they can explain any of this.
Who built the wall? Who kept the pod people safe for 2000 years? The pod people would have included the sheriff and Pilcher so who was in charge? Remember the food supply truck, where does it come from and where does the food come from? There doesn't appear to be any farms or manufacturing facilities to produce the packaged goods or even clothing.
No there's too many unexplained holes. I'll keep watching as it is entertaining to see if they can explain any of this.
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I like the show. I like the twist. I want to see how it plays out.
I also take comfort in knowing that everything gets wrapped up in the next five episodes. It can be frustrating when you leave the season with so many unanswered questions and in the middle of the plot. Even more heartbreaking when the show gets cancelled. There is definitely a quota of movies and TV shows like that I can handle at a time.
I also take comfort in knowing that everything gets wrapped up in the next five episodes. It can be frustrating when you leave the season with so many unanswered questions and in the middle of the plot. Even more heartbreaking when the show gets cancelled. There is definitely a quota of movies and TV shows like that I can handle at a time.
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If I buy the whole suspended animation scenario how was the sheriff able to go back and intercept the wife and kid driving in from Seattle to cause their accident and still be around 2000 years later when they emerged.
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I like the show. I like the twist. I want to see how it plays out.
I also take comfort in knowing that everything gets wrapped up in the next five episodes. It can be frustrating when you leave the season with so many unanswered questions and in the middle of the plot. Even more heartbreaking when the show gets cancelled. There is definitely a quota of movies and TV shows like that I can handle at a time.
I also take comfort in knowing that everything gets wrapped up in the next five episodes. It can be frustrating when you leave the season with so many unanswered questions and in the middle of the plot. Even more heartbreaking when the show gets cancelled. There is definitely a quota of movies and TV shows like that I can handle at a time.
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It just seems like there are too many holes in the story that they are 2000 years into the future. It would have been more believable to keep everything present day with the abbies evolving from some accident or other and then wiping out the surrounding communities.
Who built the wall? Who kept the pod people safe for 2000 years? The pod people would have included the sheriff and Pilcher so who was in charge? Remember the food supply truck, where does it come from and where does the food come from? There doesn't appear to be any farms or manufacturing facilities to produce the packaged goods or even clothing.
No there's too many unexplained holes. I'll keep watching as it is entertaining to see if they can explain any of this.
Who built the wall? Who kept the pod people safe for 2000 years? The pod people would have included the sheriff and Pilcher so who was in charge? Remember the food supply truck, where does it come from and where does the food come from? There doesn't appear to be any farms or manufacturing facilities to produce the packaged goods or even clothing.
No there's too many unexplained holes. I'll keep watching as it is entertaining to see if they can explain any of this.