Another "Walking Dead" showrunner steps down
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An ABC sitcom runner might be able to cut it if he's diverse. I mean we have Sopranos writers who have worked on Sister Sister, Baby Blues and 2 Stupid Dogs, so why not.
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I too enjoyed Season 2. I still don't understand the complaint that they spent too much time on the farm. I wouldn't have left there doing the zombie apocalypse, that's for sure.
I'm too lazy to look up who this would be, but my guess is that they'll simply promote someone from within to run the show. They've canned too many showrunners to get anyone interesting in there. It'll be someone who already works on it.
I'm too lazy to look up who this would be, but my guess is that they'll simply promote someone from within to run the show. They've canned too many showrunners to get anyone interesting in there. It'll be someone who already works on it.
I was actually one of the few who complained about the pacing of the first season ... while I enjoyed it, I felt they left too many locations too quickly. There was potential for some great stories left on the table.
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TWD is probably so big now it *should* survive these internal changes due to momentum. However, the point that Ryan was making is that AMC's cheapskate nature i.e. cutting budgets to give to low rated MadMen, firing showrunners, etc will affect future shows. Producers with new shows to pitch may go to other networks that will support them over AMC and that is a good thing.
The gossip I heard was he wanted them out of the prison at the end of the season and AMC wanted them there for one more. I'm guessing it was to cut costs since they already have the sets and interior shots costs much less to produce then outside ones. It sounds plausible, but who really knows for sure unless they start talking about it?
JMS has a show with the Wachowskis (Sense 8) that was picked up to Series last month.
http://www.facebook.com/StudioJms/posts/427501543969679
and a pandemic show in development:
http://www.deadline.com/2012/08/abc-...andemic-drama/
He's my favorite TV guy (Babylon 5 being my favorite show) and he can handle a cast, and he's got comic book background...but my sense is right now he's got enough movie scripts and TV shows in development to keep him busy.
And he definitely likes creative control...from the above, it doesn't sound like AMC is playing nice with regards to showrunner creative control on The Walking Dead.
http://www.facebook.com/StudioJms/posts/427501543969679
and a pandemic show in development:
http://www.deadline.com/2012/08/abc-...andemic-drama/
He's my favorite TV guy (Babylon 5 being my favorite show) and he can handle a cast, and he's got comic book background...but my sense is right now he's got enough movie scripts and TV shows in development to keep him busy.
And he definitely likes creative control...from the above, it doesn't sound like AMC is playing nice with regards to showrunner creative control on The Walking Dead.
Yep, season three is the only season that feels like a well-oiled television machine. The first season is nothing more than a mini-series and the second season was interminably slow for anyone that watched it as it was broadcast. People need to realize that watching something on DVD or Blu-ray in the matter of a few days is not the same experience as watching from week to week.
TV has to constrain its settings to keep the budget down, I imagine.
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http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0991355/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1
http://www.deadline.com/2013/01/walk...-glen-mazzara/
Scott Gimple was promoted to showrunner. He has been a supervising Producer on the show and has worked on the show since season 2.
He previously worked on Flashforward, Chase and Life.
http://www.deadline.com/2013/01/walk...-glen-mazzara/
Scott Gimple was promoted to showrunner. He has been a supervising Producer on the show and has worked on the show since season 2.
He previously worked on Flashforward, Chase and Life.
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http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0991355/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1
http://www.deadline.com/2013/01/walk...-glen-mazzara/
Scott Gimple was promoted to showrunner. He has been a supervising Producer on the show and has worked on the show since season 2.
He previously worked on Flashforward, Chase and Life.
http://www.deadline.com/2013/01/walk...-glen-mazzara/
Scott Gimple was promoted to showrunner. He has been a supervising Producer on the show and has worked on the show since season 2.
He previously worked on Flashforward, Chase and Life.
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Scott Gimple is sort of a wet fart from a fanboy perspective. No real resume that can give us an idea of what to expect. I think it was a safe choice... just not very exciting.
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It was pretty obvious they weren't going to hire from the outside and go with someone who is already on the writing staff. Definitely a safe choice.
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everyone had a shitfit when Darabont left, and look what happened... the show (by S3) fucking rocked everyone's balls off. Everyone just needs to chill out... the story practically writes itself.
#112
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Mazzarra was a better fit, but was too quick to kill off characters.
We'll see how Gimple ends up.
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My biggest complaint about season 2 was the lack of diversity in the story since everyone was grouped together. Season 3 alleviated that by splitting screen time between the prison and Woodbury.
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The inclusion of Sam Witwer in the episode that explains the origin of the tank zombie sounds good in theory, but the episode is pointless. I don't need to know the origins of the zombies or minor characters that have no overall effect on the series.
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Actually, explaining the histories of some of the zombies helps humanise the walkers. It might seems silly but it actually gives weight to the gravity of the situation of the characters. In the end, all the dead they encounter are people too and not just monsters. That helps present Hershel's view of the walkers in his barn and the theories of that doctor guy at Woodbury. And if the plan was only one wild card episode per season, that's not all that bad. Another benefit of wild card episodes is that they can give us further glimpses of how everything fell appart. Also recall that the tank zombie episode was to be the season 2 premier. That's a great way to bring in new viewers without bombarding them with the current story right off the bat.
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I thought Mazzarra did a great job with the show. Hopefully the new guy will keep up the quality level. Most of it is coming from Kirkman's brain anyway, so I have high hopes.
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Actually, explaining the histories of some of the zombies helps humanise the walkers. It might seems silly but it actually gives weight to the gravity of the situation of the characters. In the end, all the dead they encounter are people too and not just monsters. That helps present Hershel's view of the walkers in his barn and the theories of that doctor guy at Woodbury. And if the plan was only one wild card episode per season, that's not all that bad. Another benefit of wild card episodes is that they can give us further glimpses of how everything fell appart. Also recall that the tank zombie episode was to be the season 2 premier. That's a great way to bring in new viewers without bombarding them with the current story right off the bat.
If Kirkman wanted to show us how it all went down, he would have.
Even in the spin off novels about the governor he never explains how the walls came tumbling down.
I don't need my hand held for The Walking Dead by Darabont.
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I know. I've read the comics since issue one. I'm just saying Mazzarra seemed pretty obsessed with just murdering every character like it's a bodily reflex. Kirkman bided his time and only did it when necessary to a plot.
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He planned a wild card episode every season. People were bitching by that time that the show was deviating way too much from the comics, already, why do we need wild card episodes? What was the point of that?
The inclusion of Sam Witwer in the episode that explains the origin of the tank zombie sounds good in theory, but the episode is pointless. I don't need to know the origins of the zombies or minor characters that have no overall effect on the series.
The inclusion of Sam Witwer in the episode that explains the origin of the tank zombie sounds good in theory, but the episode is pointless. I don't need to know the origins of the zombies or minor characters that have no overall effect on the series.
The Sam Witwer episode sounded awesome, and I'm sure Darabont would've found a way to make it work. We were lucky that the next showrunner eventually found a way to make the show work (after the terrible 2nd season was over). Will the third time work as well? Somehow I doubt it.
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That hasn't been true for years. There are certain characters in the comic who have been "safe" for waaay too long due to popularity (Rick, Carl, Michonne and Andrea), and it's doubtful if Kirkman will ever kill or, frankly, even hurt these characters again.
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No, in the context of the series, I think, my opinion is that is pointless to include a wild card episode. It still is.
I love season two as a whole. But all the complaints were thanks to Darabont. He was wrong for the show. Kudos to him for getting the show up and running, but he was a wrong fit.
We'll have to see. Darabont had the show given to Mazzarra and Mazzarra did a better job than Darabon by miles, so we shall see.
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The last major death was shocking and many people assumed it wouldn't happen. A lot of the shocking deaths happened without any kind of foreshadowing.
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The show is one giant circle, albeit an entertaining one. Stepping outside that circle once in awhile could be interesting.
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Relavance & forward motion? The group finds a place to hole up for a bit, a few die, place becomes overrun with zombies. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
The show is one giant circle, albeit an entertaining one. Stepping outside that circle once in awhile could be interesting.
The show is one giant circle, albeit an entertaining one. Stepping outside that circle once in awhile could be interesting.
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You clearly haven't read The Walking Dead recently.