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Old 12-16-12, 11:55 PM
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Re: Dexter -- Season 7 Finale-- "Surprise Motherf****er!" -- 12/16/12

Didn't the show get its highest ratings ever last week? I can see Showtime trying to keep it going past next season. I would actually like to see Dexter face off against another "big bad" or two.

It was nice of them to give Quinn a line or two this episode. I miss the old days when he was being a mini-Doakes in regards to Dexter.
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Re: Dexter -- Season 7 Finale-- "Surprise Motherf****er!" -- 12/16/12

Is it just me, or did the way Doakes looked seem "off"?


Obviously everybody was in wigs etc, but Erik King looked different. Probably that he seems more muscular now.
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Re: Dexter -- Season 7 Finale-- "Surprise Motherf****er!" -- 12/16/12

Once again Dexter cops out. A truly good ending would have been LaGuerta really catching Dexter and outsmarting him which is where I thought they were going with the title. I do not like what they did with Deb either. I think the original show-writers were always moving to Deb figuring it out and arresting Dexter but the new guys chose this direction.
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Re: Dexter -- Season 7 Finale-- "Surprise Motherf****er!" -- 12/16/12

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Didn't the show get its highest ratings ever last week? I can see Showtime trying to keep it going past next season. I would actually like to see Dexter face off against another "big bad" or two.
Ugh, no, please. The only thing making next season worth watching is the hope that it will finally end this.
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Re: Dexter -- Season 7 Finale-- "Surprise Motherf****er!" -- 12/16/12

Originally Posted by windom View Post
Didn't the show get its highest ratings ever last week? I can see Showtime trying to keep it going past next season. I would actually like to see Dexter face off against another "big bad" or two.

It was nice of them to give Quinn a line or two this episode. I miss the old days when he was being a mini-Doakes in regards to Dexter.
They already announced it before this season started they'd do two more and end it so I fully expect next year to be the last. Plus the way it's been built up the end game is coming. There's no way they can stretch it out any further and make it turn out decent. One more season to wrap the show up should do it and give a satisfying conclusion to the show.
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Re: Dexter -- Season 7 Finale-- "Surprise Motherf****er!" -- 12/16/12

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Ugh, no, please. The only thing making next season worth watching is the hope that it will finally end this.
Don't worry. They'll leave us with a Sopranos-type ending and then everyone will talk about making a movie.
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Re: Dexter -- Season 7 Finale-- "Surprise Motherf****er!" -- 12/16/12

I was also disappointed that Maria got killed in that it very much felt like a reset. She was just getting interesting. But I will say, nice work with having Mike Anderson's request (that he wanted earlier) come through. I had forgotten about that.

It's once again very stupid how LaGuerta had Deb back off since she was related to the case, yet had no problem with fucking Masuka handling the bloodwork and fingerprints. Nope, he's not Dexter's friend or co-worker, nothing to potentially cloud his judgement whatsoever. Too similar to Dexter "saving" Quinn 2 seasons ago.

And LaGuerta didn't call for backup when the guy called and said he was in the shipping container? Are you fucking serious? The one thing that would bring back her credibility to the department and she goes in alone.
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Re: Dexter -- Season 7 Finale-- "Surprise Motherf****er!" -- 12/16/12

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I was also disappointed that Maria got killed in that it very much felt like a reset.
It isn't a reset. Presumably An-hel will be back on the job and heading the investigation into her death. Dexter will obviously be a person of interest, given LaGuerta's accusations.

I'm more disappointed that the episode was kind of awful.
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Re: Dexter -- Season 7 Finale-- "Surprise Motherf****er!" -- 12/16/12

Knew Maria was going to die when she showed Deb the gas station footage. There was no other option.

The ending: ugh. I LOVE this show, but I have mixed feelings about that ending. I don't think we'll know how to really judge it until we know what they come up with for the final season. If the final season is awesome, then this was necessary. But it somehow didn't "feel" right. Deb will NEVER be whole again. Unlike Dexter's kills, this one can't be redeemed.

And I don't think we've seen the last of Hannah. She's in love with Dexter. No way she stays away.

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Re: Dexter -- Season 7 Finale-- "Surprise Motherf****er!" -- 12/16/12

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It isn't a reset. Presumably An-hel will be back on the job and heading the investigation into her death. Dexter will obviously be a person of interest, given LaGuerta's accusations.

I'm more disappointed that the episode was kind of awful.
I hope you're right in that there better be major fallout after her death, and the investigation continues with added momentum.
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Re: Dexter -- Season 7 Finale-- "Surprise Motherf****er!" -- 12/16/12

Man, I had forgotten how much I've missed Doakes!

Surprise Mother Fucker!

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Re: Dexter -- Season 7 Finale-- "Surprise Motherf****er!" -- 12/16/12

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And LaGuerta didn't call for backup when the guy called and said he was in the shipping container? Are you fucking serious? The one thing that would bring back her credibility to the department and she goes in alone.
That was the biggest plot hole for me. In order for Dexter's plan to work, Maria had to show up alone. He had no way of knowing whether she would come alone, bring back-up, or bring someone else.

I could, potentially, see Dexter and Deb setting it up so it looks like LaGuerta killed Estrada in order to frame Dexter. Her story can be that something made her suspicious, so she put out a trace on LaGuerta, found out she was going back to the container, so she went out there, found that she had killed Estrada (Travis-style), and had to shoot her. LaGuerta already got caught trying to frame Dexter once, so this would just make it look like she completely lost her shit.
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Re: Dexter -- Season 7 Finale-- "Surprise Motherf****er!" -- 12/16/12

Originally Posted by Josh-da-man View Post
That was the biggest plot hole for me. In order for Dexter's plan to work, Maria had to show up alone. He had no way of knowing whether she would come alone, bring back-up, or bring someone else.

I could, potentially, see Dexter and Deb setting it up so it looks like LaGuerta killed Estrada in order to frame Dexter. Her story can be that something made her suspicious, so she put out a trace on LaGuerta, found out she was going back to the container, so she went out there, found that she had killed Estrada (Travis-style), and had to shoot her. LaGuerta already got caught trying to frame Dexter once, so this would just make it look like she completely lost her shit.
That actually might have worked except for the fact that both dexter and deb are at that new years party walking around like nothing happen. I actually liked your ending better. =)
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Re: Dexter -- Season 7 Finale-- "Surprise Motherf****er!" -- 12/16/12

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That actually might have worked except for the fact that both dexter and deb are at that new years party walking around like nothing happen. I actually liked your ending better. =)
They weren't at the party. They were at a New Year's eve celebration at the waterfront near the shipping containers. Bautista's party didn't have that many people and it was all inside.
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Re: Dexter -- Season 7 Finale-- "Surprise Motherf****er!" -- 12/16/12

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That was the biggest plot hole for me. In order for Dexter's plan to work, Maria had to show up alone. He had no way of knowing whether she would come alone, bring back-up, or bring someone else.

I could, potentially, see Dexter and Deb setting it up so it looks like LaGuerta killed Estrada in order to frame Dexter. Her story can be that something made her suspicious, so she put out a trace on LaGuerta, found out she was going back to the container, so she went out there, found that she had killed Estrada (Travis-style), and had to shoot her. LaGuerta already got caught trying to frame Dexter once, so this would just make it look like she completely lost her shit.
Or make it look as if Estrada made LaGuerta "disappear" since he was a criminal. After all, the call he made to her is on her phone records now.
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Re: Dexter -- Season 7 Finale-- "Surprise Motherf****er!" -- 12/16/12

Originally Posted by Neil M. View Post
Don't worry. They'll leave us with a Sopranos-type ending and then everyone will talk about making a movie.
Exactly.
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Re: Dexter -- Season 7 Finale-- "Surprise Motherf****er!" -- 12/16/12

Or, they'll just rename the show "Deb" and continue beyond next season.

Agree that Doakes is awesome. He's been missed.
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Re: Dexter -- Season 7 Finale-- "Surprise Motherf****er!" -- 12/16/12

And excellent end to an excellent season. I was so glad Maria got killed off, she was the worst. And hopefully we'll see more Yvonne next year.

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Re: Dexter -- Season 7 Finale-- "Surprise Motherf****er!" -- 12/16/12

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But it somehow didn't "feel" right. Deb will NEVER be whole again. Unlike Dexter's kills, this one can't be redeemed.
Totally true. She's the opposite of Dexter in many ways: He feels next to nothing and she feels--and shows--everything. She can't fake it. While I loved the ep., I would've preferred her to just turn and walk away, leaving Dexter and LaGuerta in the container for Dexter to take care of things. She'll never be the same after this.

Overall a fantastic season.
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Re: Dexter -- Season 7 Finale-- "Surprise Motherf****er!" -- 12/16/12



Excellent finale to a solid season overall. Much better than the last 2 seasons overall.

I watched the 2 1/2 minute featurette on SHO.com with showrunner Scott Buck and he said that Deb freaking out and hugging Maria after shooting her wasn't scripted. They just let the cameras roll and Jen Carpenter improvised the end of that scene. To me that really solidified what a solid season acting-wise we got from her. Really heartbreaking scene from Deb's standpoint. Although Maria was an uptight and annoying bitch, I think Deb always looked at her as a friend and a mentor. She's now crossed a dark path with no turning back. It also really solidified the bond between her and Dexter.

Buck also said that they aren't looking to fill Maria's void and will make season 8 about the fallout from her death. He also said they will explore some more of Dexter's origin.
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Re: Dexter -- Season 7 Finale-- "Surprise Motherf****er!" -- 12/16/12

It makes sense that the final season would go back to his origin. Dexter has always been comic book 'hero' so it's fitting that they would go back to his origin and twist it somehow.

And I agree on Jennifer Carpenter's acting. She's been great this season but I've actually always thought she was a very good and capable actress. She's always been great as Deb. I just think this season the writers have added more depth to the character and gave her a chance to really shine.
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Re: Dexter -- Season 7 Finale-- "Surprise Motherf****er!" -- 12/16/12

I know I'm in the minority, but I'm glad this season is finished. Just felt like a convoluted mess to me overall. The mob/strip club/Isaac storyline was a buildup to nothing, Dexter's abductions/kills in broad daylight or at an airport seemed laughably far-fetched and the Deb "I'm in love with Dexter" sidestory was equally half-baked.

I did like the addition of Hannah, and The LaGuerta/Doakes element was a saving grace, but too little too late.

At this point I will watch the final season with hope that it ends strong. If I had not thoroughly enjoyed the previous run of the show (or if this was my introduction to the series) I think I would have bailed early on.
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Re: Dexter -- Season 7 Finale-- "Surprise Motherf****er!" -- 12/16/12

Agree with some points here.

A few minutes of Doakes showed how bad the Quinn character is.

I don't think this was a complete reset. Yes, Dexter didn't kill Laguerta, but Deb did, his sister, so my guess that it'll be almost the same for him.

And yeah, they could have done more with the Isaac storyline, it was probably the best part of the season.
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Re: Dexter -- Season 7 Finale-- "Surprise Motherf****er!" -- 12/16/12

I think Deb killing Laguerta will be harder for Dexter than if he did it himself. Dexter is a killer. Any guilt that he would have felt for killing Laguerta would disappear very quickly. However, I think the guilt he's going to feel knowing that it was because of him that Deb killed someone will be much worse. So I don't think the end was a cop out at all. Dexter can't just walk away from this like he could with Doakes.

And it's not a reset either. Laguerta still laid down the groundwork to take down both Dexter and Deb. Her death will most definitely get some people looking into it. Either Mathews or Angel will have a lot of interest in what Laguerta had on Dexter and Deb now.

Now the demise of Dexter won't have the 'vigilante' cloud on it. They can't rehash the second and fifth season where there was a debate on whether what Dexter was doing was ok. He and Deb have gone too far now.

The scene where Dexter and Laguerta are riding on the elevator was awesome. When she walks in and he looks her dead in the eye and says "Captain" was classic Dexter.
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Re: Dexter -- Season 7 Finale-- "Surprise Motherf****er!" -- 12/16/12

When LaGuerta initially arrested Dexter, wouldn't they have been free to search his apartment without needing a search warrant? Heck, if they had enough probable cause to arrest him wouldn't they also have enough to get a search warrant? They could have easily found the blood slides and knives, and that would have been the end of it.

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