Rex Fenestrarum

Did you ready any of the comments, though?

This show is getting beyond ridiculous. It started off as "24 for adults", but it's quickly becoming "24 for retards".

Raul3

I was reading an article yesterday that "a lot" of people didn't like this episode.

Like some here, but more extreme.

I thought it was good, yeah, they took some liberties, but nothing that didn't help to advance the plot. So it's fine for me.

JCWBobC

Anyone else think Saul is in danger of being taken out? Either they're going to set him up or he gets taken out with friendly fire. Estes has already said that no one respects him any more and he's sticking his nose in things he doesn't seem to have clearance for.

I can believe he got to the president, only a few people know about him being a traitor, but like someone else said how are they not monitoring his phone calls at this point. It would make more sense if he had a hidden phone that they didn't know about but Saul called him on Carrie's phone so it's his normal phone.

Groucho

Anybody who doubts this can test it out for themselves. Rewatch the end of the episode...when Carrie goes through the door and it fades to black make the "boop beep" noises...it works perfectly.

Goat3001

While it does seem to be getting more into 24 territory it isn't fully there yet. Not until we get a crazy car chase through DC.

Also, 24 was awesome. While I was hoping this would be less ridiculous, I'm not about to stop watching even if it completely turns into 24.

CRM114

The only thing that works for me is 1) Brody getting killed or incarcerated or 2) Brody going totally rogue and becoming the new Nazir who becomes THE show's main antagonist ongoing.

Goat3001

I feel that would be a big departure for everything we know about Brody. We always thought of him as someone that was brainwashed but not a bad person. He loves his family and never truly wanted to commit an act of terror that would harm innocent lives. It always seemed to be about the vice president and anyone involved in the drone strike. I think there would have to be a major event for him to go rogue and become a full blown terrorist. Maybe something that involves his daughter getting killed by the CIA?

I can, however, see Brody escaping the country and the CIA working to track him down next season. Maybe as a side plot. He's not doing anything bad while he's out of the country, he's just on the run. I can get behind a side plot of Quinn hunting down Brody.

Dave99

and does absolutely nothing. Why even have him there?

RocShemp

I'd be down for the latter.

Ropes Pierre

i put my finger on what is off about the daughter. she talks like a ventriloquist and doesn't really move her lips.

anomynous

Because there's more to him.

johnnysd

you have not figured it out yet?

Dragon Tattoo

Wow. Really?

Dave99

Yeah, I get that. I'll be really disappointed if they made it that obvious.

ardathbey

He's the mole? He's really Superman? He really died a few eps ago and now only the CIA can see his ghost?

auto

Watched this episode again and it really borders on jumping the shark.

Carrie going after Nazir at the end is one of the only moments that actually does ring true.

whotony

I was surprised they killed the vice or did they?

Anyway, I was thinking that Saul was about to be disappeared when he was detained at the doorway.

Brent L

I just caught up with the show. I was behind by six episodes and just finished the most recent one.

I didn't see any of the previews, so I have no idea if any of this has already been proven false. I believe that it'll show Carrie walk into that room, and she will find Abu Nazir either dead, or dying, having committed suicide knowing that his plan was completed.

To take it a step further, in the meantime and not seen on screen, before Nazir went through with it and knowing Brody is not in a very complicated situation, he called or texted him information on how to meet up with a cell of terrorists who can help him escape the country, but he has to move quick. Then, Brody now having committed such an awful act, and his love for Isa and that side renewed, he begins to fully dedicate his life to the terrorists, leading to a setup for the third season where he is essentially the new Nazir, and much of the next season will take place overseas.

The last part may be pretty out there, yeah. But I do fully believe the first part of Nazir having killed himself. Then again, like I said, all of that could be meaningless by now if he was shown in any previews.

I can't wait for the next episode!

Raul3

Excellent theory!!! Too bad that it was totally wrong.

RocShemp

Well azir did technically So Brent L was a tiny little bit right.

marginal

I just now caught up with this show... way behind, so I'm sure everyone else has already moved on.

As it happens, I wrote a political thriller (published in July) that used a very similar method of killing off a character. But it wasn't the administration of an ultra-powerful shock that did the trick; it was a normal shock (more than one, actually), but timed to disrupt the heart's normal beat pattern. I did some research on this, and found that you can destabilize the heart's rhythm by providing a jolt at just the right (or wrong) time. Not that that's what they were doing here... I'm just saying. And yes, it's still pretty far-fetched.

SuckaMC

Hey, congrats on getting published! (Assuming it's your first time) Very cool.