dvdjunkie32

I didn't think it was really a big spoiler. There is no way they would kill off the Daryl character at this point. He is extremely popular and reportedly gets the most fan mail. With that said, it ended on a great cliffhanger, and I have no idea how Daryl and Merle will get out of that mess.

Did the governor ever really explain why he was keeping severed heads in tanks? I remember Andrea asking him, but I don't think she got a real answer. That was the only real letdown for me last night.

VinVega

Andrea needs to wake up. Her dumbness will probably be her undoing. You can only be stupid for so long in the zombie apocalypse. Would they kill off the cute blonde though?

VinVega

He said something like he keeps the mangled heads in his room to prepare him for what needs to be done when he has to go outside the town to take care of business.

Lastblade

Andrea will probably come around in the 2nd half and help Daryl/Merle and also take down the Governor. But she is still pretty dumb.

majorjoe23

I don't know. I have a theory that I'll spoiler for people who don't want speculation and a small comic plot point.

Groucho

Good theory, majorjoe. I think you're spot-on with that.

bigsoos

Man, all Michonne had to tell Andrea was that the Governor sent Merle and his henchmen to kill her when she left. Of course Andrea would have said that they were just trying to bring her back safely.

Groucho

A lot of problems would be solved if Michonne would just open her mouth every now and then. She would fit right in with the castaways on Lost.

Draven

Why is everyone calling Andrea dumb? We have so much more information than she does about what's going on. She found a safe place to stay and wasn't privy to the behind the scenes problems. As soon as things started getting weird, she started questioning. She didn't know it was her group attacking, she didn't know Glenn was there, she didn't know the Governor was untrustworthy. Now that she's seen the truth, I don't think she'll be sticking around Woodbury.

I do not understand the hate that female characters on this show get. Merle is a racist killer and people are more forgiving of him.

Groucho

No issues here with Carol, Beth, or Sasha.

orangecrush

I haven't read the comics (and plan on doing it), but they have been out for years. We are on our third season of a show based on said comics. If you haven't read them yet and don't want them spoiled, you should avoid any talk of the show and go read them now.

Xander

Wow, good stuff. I was seriously cringing in the fight between Michonne and the Gov when she eyed that piece of broken glass. I haven't read far in the comics, so I didn't know exactly what was going to happen, but exactly what I thought would happen did. /shudder

Carl is such a badass. Loved his moment with Tyreese's group and Tyreese calling him the man of the house.

The problem with Andrea is that now she's seen good portions of the Gov's madness (floating heads, Penny) and she still stuck around. She should have been packing her shit after all that.

And now I don't know what direction they're going with Merle. Really thought it would be him vs. Daryl. Now it looks like it's them vs. Woodbury. And judging from the preview for the next ep:

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All in all, awesome first half of the season. Looking forward to seeing what Tyreese's group brings to the table.

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Sorry, thoughts a bit scattered. Can't wait for February!

golden_rod

Because it took Daryl being taken prisoner by her one-eyed bastard of a lover to finally be aghast at what is actually going on. Any normal person would have hightailed it out of there with Michonne after seeing that secret room of his. It feels so phoney and forced.

And the female characters get hate because they're horribly written. Granted, it has gotten much better this season because I actually like Michonne, Maggie and Carol, but it seems like any progress that the writers have made has been fucked up with the shit they're pulling with Andrea. Her only personality traits are idiocy and an attraction to alpha-males. Don't know what to with her character? Have her sleep with someone. Ugh.

orangecrush

She abandoned his group in Woodbury.

dex14

Exactly... And they kept questioning if she was sent as a set up to bring them there.

Shazam

Random thoughts:

- Nice surprise to see Wolverine Shane back
- Glenn makes zombie bone shank
- Lesbian Carol was funny and defused one hell of a creepy scene
- Bad-ass Carl with the silencer pistol.
- Tyreese with the hammertime. Glorious.

Shazam

Michonne feels that no matter what she says to Andrea, Andrea will not betray the Governor. She knew that Andrea was instantly smitten with Woodbury.

madcougar

What cute blond are you talking about? Because Andrea ain't cute.

Draven

She cares about the Governor, and he offered an explanation for the heads...and after just suffering a major injury. As for Penny, is it any different than a barn full of zombies? Shit is just more fucked up in this world, so the idea that he would chain up his zombie daughter isn't that crazy. She's seen worse. Plus, she saw their efforts to communicate with zombies, so obviously that would play into keeping Penny around. And she didn't look too happy at the end of the episode, so we might be 15 minutes from her abandoning Woodbury.

I don't know, I think people forget that the characters only have a fraction of the information we do and expect them to act like they know everything.

fumanstan

Andrea's actions don't really bother me too much either; even after seeing the creepy shit in the Governor's room, it seemed like given the previous episodes it isn't exactly easy for her to just pack up and walk out without everyone in town making a big deal about it. The show always seemed to play Michonne's distrust of Woodbury a little harsh given everything they actually encounter inside. Seeing Daryl i'm sure at the end changes that.

That said, you would think in the months they had together in the winter Andrea would have given Michonne a description of the group she was previously with, and that it wouldn't be hard for Michonne to recognize Rick's group as them and say "Hey do you know Andrea?"

DthRdrX

Lorrie Holden is one of the bigger names on the show so I have a feeling she is sticking around for a while.

Tom Creo

Yeah but seeing Daryl aparantly didn't change anything because the preview still showed her in Woodbury with The Governor. Dumbass writers. Have a cool little stare down and no one opens their mouth? Dug the whole first half of the season until that moment.

loneranger

raven56706

governor probably has 10 lbs of ding dong between his legs

VinVega

Not bad loneranger, not bad.