Re: The Walking Dead -- "Killer Within" -- 11/04/12
 

Well this series follows the Joe Bob Briggs' rules of a great movie: anyone can die at any time.

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Killer Within" -- 11/04/12
 

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Killer Within" -- 11/04/12
 

It is OK. These are episode discussion threads. Once the show starts airing there are going to be spoilers. People should know that by now.

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Killer Within" -- 11/04/12
 

Damn. T-Dogg did not go out like a bitch. Nice.

Lori, we knew she was dead once she got trapped. Never liked her much but it must have been tough for carl to pop mom in the head.

I think it would have upset me more if the baby had died.

New Black dude secured his place in the group, took out the guy with the axe.

What is the governor's angle with lori?

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Killer Within" -- 11/04/12
 

It looked like

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Killer Within" -- 11/04/12
 

He was with Glenn.

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Killer Within" -- 11/04/12
 

the white guy

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Killer Within" -- 11/04/12
 

I think Lori's death was probably more shocking to those of us who are familiar with the comics since... well... she didn't die in childbirth.

Now, I really have no idea how all of this is going to play out.

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Killer Within" -- 11/04/12
 

I'm just waiting for the new guy's name to be revealed as Tyrese.

I'm really pissed they gave this version of Lori what amounts to a heroic death. I wanted to see this bitch go out to a shotgun with that baby in her hands. Now we have some annoying baby they have to take care of, too?

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Killer Within" -- 11/04/12
 

Between Glenn half-decapitating that guy in the prison yard, T-Dog's throat, and Lori's delivery, that is probably the bloodiest hour of dramatic TV I've ever seen.

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Killer Within" -- 11/04/12
 

I agree. I stay far away from any weekly episode thread until I have watched the actual episode.

Kinda what I was thinking while watching it. She thinks she is doing the right thing by dying which made no sense to me. Stay with your current child and husband and be an adult contributor to the group or die, bring a crying baby into the world which will need milk/formula and will be a burden and dinner alarm to any zombie around. Seemed almost like a selfish decision even though she lost her life because of the baby.

Maybe Rick will put a bullet or machete in it's head next week since he hates letting new people into the group.

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Killer Within" -- 11/04/12
 

Great episode, but if the rest of the season ends up being about the search for Sophia's mom my shit will be lost.

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Killer Within" -- 11/04/12
 

Someone better start lactating soon. How the hell do you feed a baby in a post-apocalyptic world?

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Killer Within" -- 11/04/12
 

That is funny!

Oops, looks like I dont know how to do this correctly yet.

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Killer Within" -- 11/04/12
 

They should have kept Zombie Lori alive, sans jaw and arms, to feed the baby (do zombies lactate?).

My wife didn't appreciate the practicality of my solution.

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Killer Within" -- 11/04/12
 

Nah. Don't worry about it. They've been more or less sticking to the books. I know what's coming.

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Damn I was really hoping that baby was going to come out zombified. PLEASE let us see a zombie baby at some point.

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Killer Within" -- 11/04/12
 

They don't know how this works as they haven't met Michonne yet. I am however thinking the milk would be bad. I was wondering what would happen if the baby died in the womb.. Would it become a zombie and kill the mother from within?

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Killer Within" -- 11/04/12
 

That is exactly what I thought. I almost cried.

A couple of thoughts:

1. How is that baby going to be fed? I doubt the prison has a lot of formula.
2. I am not a fan of them bringing back the dude who should have been eaten, it creates a sense of doubt for any off screen kill (like mommy).

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Killer Within" -- 11/04/12
 

I'm afraid of future-spoilers from the comic book readers. This was a constant problem in the Game of Thrones forums with book readers. I find I have to stop reading these thread after a page or two because of the inept spoiler posters.

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Killer Within" -- 11/04/12
 

I made a thread for comic and show spoilers. Otherwise in these threads comic spoilers are usually in tags.

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Killer Within" -- 11/04/12
 

I don't know, I see where you're coming from, but I got the impression that with the level of bleeding going on and where they were, she was going to die no matter what. She just wanted them to act right away to at least save the baby instead of waiting and letting them both die.

Damn, this was one of the most intense hours of television I've seen in a while. That birth scene was disturbing beyond words. Everything about it was maximum awful. Carl having to watch her mother scream in pain as she gets sliced open and dies, then putting a bullet in her corpse's head. Brutal stuff. And Rick's screaming when they come outside - chilling. He did a great job.

I picked up and started reading the comics right after the end of the episode - this season has been so much improved over the first two. I just want to catch up now and see where the story goes.

I'll be curious to see the ratings on this show going forward. I think it's great, but I wonder if the constantly bleak and disturbing footage won't turn some viewers off. I know a few people who were fans of the previous seasons but are having a hard time with this one due to all the ultra violence. It really is quite a turn from the previous seasons.

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Killer Within" -- 11/04/12
 

Not sure if this needs spoiler, since I don't know how it will be resolved, but the 'next week on' shows:

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Killer Within" -- 11/04/12
 

At the end of the show I looked over to my GF and she was in tears. powerful ending

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Killer Within" -- 11/04/12
 

I still don't get how that guy survived. Didn't they have screams and eating noises when he supposedly died?

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Killer Within" -- 11/04/12
 

As I stated last week, that was clearly him eating the zombies. :eek:

But yeah, never trust an off-screen death. In other words, if Zombie Lori comes around the corner with her uterus hanging out, it should come as a surprise to nobody.

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Killer Within" -- 11/04/12
 

My guess is that once they hit death, the bodies stop producing things like more blood and especially something like breast milk. These things have the same functions as a normal dead body, other than the walking around and eating part.

Babies would be a small enough meal that I would guess there wouldn't be enough left of one to turn into a zombie.

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Killer Within" -- 11/04/12
 

Did Carol die? At the end when they come across T-Dogg's eviscerated body, it looks like another corpse is proped up sitting against the wall behind him. It had grey hair like Carol but it was too dark and obscured for me to see if it was really her or not. I thought she had escaped as well. Of the (possibly) three characters who died this episode, she was the most worthless to the story I thought.

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Killer Within" -- 11/04/12
 

Here you go (slightly NSFW):

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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Killer Within" -- 11/04/12
 

Mothers typically put their children first.

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I figured as much, but you have to think that it will take a lot of freaking supplies. A newborn will go through 10 diapers a day and a ton of formula in a month.

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Killer Within" -- 11/04/12
 

apparently there are herbal remedies/pills that you can take to stimulate lactation.

Also from Wiki:

:bow: Maggie.

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Killer Within" -- 11/04/12
 

Maggie is going to be the kid's wet nurse.

Hell Glen/Maggie seem to be the most 'stable' family group anyways, Should be them raising the child

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Killer Within" -- 11/04/12
 

The up side is that during the initial zombie outbreak, I doubt folks were looting the Similac. Should still be plenty around.

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Just find a Sam's Club and they'll be fine

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I understand that but she is putting an unborn baby ahead of her already born child, her husband, and the safety of the group. And in my opinion, unless they have a safe haven like the Governor has, she basically sentenced that baby to death by having it anyway. But in her defense, she decided to keep the kid when it appeared they were on a safe farm.

I tend to agree with what Nausicaa said about her knowing she was going to die and might as well save the baby. But after she decided to keep the baby, you knew this day was likely coming anyway. Just a tough episode all around.

I felt more for Carl than for Lori. The actor playing Carl did very well in an extremely difficult scene and didn't overact or underact. He played it perfectly.

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Killer Within" -- 11/04/12
 

If she chose to live, viewers would still think of her as selfish. Lose-lose situation for her.

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Killer Within" -- 11/04/12
 

I'm just glad she's dead. I've never been so happy and excited after a episode of The Walking Dead. Hopefully Carol is dead too but I'm not holding my breath on that one.

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Killer Within" -- 11/04/12
 

Remember, they can turn zombie just by dying. So if it was stillborn - zombie baby.