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Old 08-12-12, 05:51 AM
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The Newsroom -- "The Blackout Part 1: Tragedy Porn" -- 8/12/12

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The ratings for "News Night" plummet after it downplays a pair of sensational stories, and Will and Mac must find a way to lure back enough viewers to justify the network's quest to air a Republican debate. Meanwhile, Will considers writers for an all-access profile; Sloan is disappointed by the lack of coverage of an important financial story; and Charlie learns a National Security Agency whistle-blower's identity.


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Phew! This is a 4-hour episode, right?
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Wow. That was pretty meta. In exploiting Casey Anthony, Sorkin is doing exactly what the show is preaching against. I guess his excuse is that he's in entertainment, not news.

I'm blowing through Sports Night while watching this. It's amazing how dated that show feels, how terrible the laugh track is, how fantastic the writing is (moreso than here for sure), and how many themes seriously are the same.
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They get rid of the laugh track in S2 of Sports Night. My gf has blazed through that series about 8 or 9 times now, so I know it pretty good.

Loved Don's Casey Anthony line
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Re: The Newsroom -- "The Blackout Part 1: Tragedy Porn" -- 8/12/12

Originally Posted by Jimmy James
Wow. That was pretty meta. In exploiting Casey Anthony, Sorkin is doing exactly what the show is preaching against. I guess his excuse is that he's in entertainment, not news.
Well, by making this show set in the recent past and by using real news stories (Gulf oil spill, Arizona shooting, Fukushima, etc.) the writers have kind of obligated themselves to covering the big news events of the last couple of years, and the Casey Anthony trial was HUGE on these kinds of news shows. I don't see how they could have avoided having an episode about it.
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Re: The Newsroom -- "The Blackout Part 1: Tragedy Porn" -- 8/12/12

Was anybody else hoping for a better camera shot of Sloan's ass after her confrontation with Neal? Just sayin'...
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Re: The Newsroom -- "The Blackout Part 1: Tragedy Porn" -- 8/12/12

I never would have thought when this show started that Olivia Munn's character would end up being my favorite.

I still think this show is incredibly troublesome in its basic conception. By choosing to use real news, Sorkin can take easy potshots at existing cable news channels, but it also means that the show itself ends up exploiting many of the same emotions or beats. And bringing in the ex-boyfriend is simply not interesting.
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Especially since he's being played by Blandanowitz.
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I liked this episode.

As much as people bemoan and make snide comments about how Sorkin is using real news stories and using hindsight to make his news channel look good and real news channels look bad, what's the alternative? I'd rather him set the show in the past and use real events than create fictional news stories about fictional countries and fictional people and fictional events. If the show covered fictional news, it loses its purpose.
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Maybe it's just me, but I don't think he's making the fictional news channel look good. They decided to dumb down the news to compete with a show they despise. What I loved about the episode, though, is that it dealt with the fact that lowered standards often aren't the result of people who just don't care, but rather of the business realities of the situation. Our Guys want to do the highbrow thing, but they most certainly are not rewarded for doing so. In the end, you can't put on a high quality show if the public has no desire for a high quality show. The fact that the show is willing to address that reality wins it a lot of brownie points in my book.

Wanting to do the right thing is just the beginning. Many people in politics enter politics wanting to do the right thing. Then they get into politics.
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Re: The Newsroom -- "The Blackout Part 1: Tragedy Porn" -- 8/12/12

So, Neal pitches a story about internet trolls that requires him to go deep deep undercover.

Did I get that right?
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Re: The Newsroom -- "The Blackout Part 1: Tragedy Porn" -- 8/12/12

Originally Posted by bluetoast
Especially since he's being played by Blandanowitz.
And the woman who wanted to reveal the Weiner tweets was played by Alison Becker, the reporter from Parks and Rec who sleeps with Mark. Coincidence?!

Originally Posted by SiberianLlama
I liked this episode.

As much as people bemoan and make snide comments about how Sorkin is using real news stories and using hindsight to make his news channel look good and real news channels look bad, what's the alternative? I'd rather him set the show in the past and use real events than create fictional news stories about fictional countries and fictional people and fictional events. If the show covered fictional news, it loses its purpose.
No, I'd much rather they used fictional news. Sports Night used fictional news and worked much better than this does. Sorkin's treading a fine line using real news and doesn't have the subtlety for it.
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And the woman who wanted to reveal the Weiner tweets was played by Alison Becker, the reporter from Parks and Rec who sleeps with Mark. Coincidence?!
Oh man, didn't even notice that. Also Neal's girlfriend is Tom's ex from that bar.
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Originally Posted by Supermallet
No, I'd much rather they used fictional news. Sports Night used fictional news and worked much better than this does. Sorkin's treading a fine line using real news and doesn't have the subtlety for it.
The problem for me here is that let's take Sports Night versus The League, season 1 when they did things on that delay that let them really leverage true NFL storylines. The League plays a lot better to me, and I'm in the middle of my third time through Sports Night season 1. The fake sports stuff is probably second to the laugh track as what is wrong with that show the way they made it.

The other side of this is that if they're up to Weiner now, they'll be caught up to present by the end of season 2. If there is a season 3, they'll have to make up things. That would be really interesting to see.
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Sorkin said that they'd never be up to the present, so they'll probably do a little bit of slowing down on the clocks when this comes back next summer.
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Originally Posted by bluetoast
Sorkin said that they'd never be up to the present, so they'll probably do a little bit of slowing down on the clocks when this comes back next summer.
That could also mean he figures this is 2 and out, which given HBO, the reception the show has gotten, etc, might not be unreasonable.
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Re: The Newsroom -- "The Blackout Part 1: Tragedy Porn" -- 8/12/12

I really like this show. Paul Schneider was a nice guest star, wish they could make him a regular. The line about the technology in The Dark Knight being real -- I can believe it. Also, talking about Olivia Munn sleeping her way to the top... that was likely based on real Internet comments.
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The really sad part is that out of all the supporting characters, Olivia Munn's character and the other producer, Don (alison Pill's boyfriend, who I hated early on) are my favorites on the show with Charlie and Will. I can barely stand anyone else and the show would be so much better without Mac. I'll keep watching since I am a fan of Soorkin's and he does have flashes of brilliance on this show, but they need to reprioritize who they feature and who is moved to the background.
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Yeah, Mac is starting to get on my nerves, and I do like Sloan now. Speaking of featuring characters, the show treats the control room like the hired help, but they're doing a huge amount of the behind the scenes work. Plus they're the same characters throughout the season (graphics guy, director, etc), so I'd like to see some focus on them for a change.
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Re: The Newsroom -- "The Blackout Part 1: Tragedy Porn" -- 8/12/12

Was Mac's ex the doctor guy from Firefly? Not coming up on IMDB but sure looks like him.
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Re: The Newsroom -- "The Blackout Part 1: Tragedy Porn" -- 8/12/12

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Was Mac's ex the doctor guy from Firefly? Not coming up on IMDB but sure looks like him.
The reporter? That was Paul Schneider. Doctor Tam from Firefly was played by Sean Maher.
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The reporter? That was Paul Schneider. Doctor Tam from Firefly was played by Sean Maher.
Am I nuts or do they look similar:

Schneider:



Maher:

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Yes, they look a little bit similar.
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I thought the whole throwing Neal (Dev Patel) up against the wall was completely out of character for somone like Sloanne (Olivia Munn). She has a PhD from Duke and is an adjunct professor at Columbia. It's been said on the show that her TV show is basically her slumming. I don't know if it was bad writing or a bad acting choice, but it was bad. I'm hoping not to see too many more things like that as I still like the show.
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Originally Posted by MikahC
I thought the whole throwing Neal (Dev Patel) up against the wall was completely out of character for somone like Sloanne (Olivia Munn). She has a PhD from Duke and is an adjunct professor at Columbia. It's been said on the show that her TV show is basically her slumming. I don't know if it was bad writing or a bad acting choice, but it was bad. I'm hoping not to see too many more things like that as I still like the show.
It didn't bother me. She's been portrayed as smart (brilliant), but extremely socially awkward. I can see her not handling that discussion well.


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