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superdeluxe 05-07-12 03:42 PM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Old Gods and the New" -- 5/06/12
 

Originally Posted by abrg923 (Post 11222223)
It makes perfect sense without even giving it time. She distracted Theon, made sure she was asleep, then helped Bran/Hodor/Rickon escape. What's so confusing about that? The only thing I can't understand is why they didn't take Maester Luwin with them.

She also appeared to have killed some guards to allow the escape as well.

In regards to why Luwin wasn't taken, I'm guessing it has to do with A) he is old and B) They made it sound like the keep's maester must serve the building, so he was in no real danger (Unlike the Stark Heirs).

musick 05-07-12 03:51 PM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Old Gods and the New" -- 5/06/12
 

Originally Posted by abrg923 (Post 11222223)
I've been saying since Episode #10 that I feel the Hound is fond of Sansa and even feels sorry for her. I think there's a bond growing there, and I hope they take it further...I could see the Hound killing Joffrey or defying him at some point in relation to Sansa.

not sure if this is really a spoiler as it is more a reference to pretty early in the first book ........
Spoiler:
definately is a connection between the two ... remember [in the book] it is the Hound who tells Sansa how his face became burned at the hand of his brother [as opposed to the show in which it is Littlefinger who tells the story to Sansa at the joust/tournament]

ryuhayabu 05-07-12 08:52 PM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Old Gods and the New" -- 5/06/12
 

Originally Posted by abrg923 (Post 11222223)
See, this part I didn't understand. Ser Rodrick took the 200 men to deal with Torrhen Square, did he not? So how did Theon capture him? Surely he wouldn't come back and leave the 200 men in Torrhen Square? And if he were still in Winterfell, then the 200 men would be too?

I'm guessing they were able to pretty much instantly secure Torrhen Square, and Rodrick probably just left someone else in charge of wrapping up and hurried back (maybe with a small travel group) to Winterfell where he belongs. The rest the force will probably follow behind eventually.

Thrush 05-07-12 09:01 PM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Old Gods and the New" -- 5/06/12
 

Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 11222158)
Here's the wide shot that we might be able to piece together:

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/961...20507at250.png

Map of the area in question for reference (no spoilers, just hiding it):


So, with the above detail, I see:

Marching ten thousand wolves to Lannisport through
the tooth. Estimate to reach you by week's end. Young Wolf
Robb Stark moving troops south by coast. ??? ???? and
turn east at Silverhill.

Nice work :thumbsup:

Osiris3657 05-07-12 09:19 PM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Old Gods and the New" -- 5/06/12
 
Amazing episode. No sign of Jorah (?) during Danny's sequences though, what happened?

Defiant1 05-07-12 09:21 PM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Old Gods and the New" -- 5/06/12
 

Originally Posted by Osiris3657 (Post 11222595)
Amazing episode. No sign of Jorah (?) during Danny's sequences though, what happened?

Too busy looking for a deal at the Used Ship Emporium. Hopefully he had Doreah with him. :)

pinata242 05-07-12 09:22 PM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Old Gods and the New" -- 5/06/12
 
Ostensibly, he's out trying to find her another way to Westeros as indicated by the end of the previous episode.

Osiris3657 05-07-12 09:22 PM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Old Gods and the New" -- 5/06/12
 
oooh yea. thanks

Groucho 05-07-12 09:37 PM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Old Gods and the New" -- 5/06/12
 
I'm pretty sure that Littlefinger's note read:

Spoiler:
"Carcetti for Mayor"

CKMorpheus 05-07-12 09:42 PM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Old Gods and the New" -- 5/06/12
 

Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 11222620)
I'm pretty sure that Littlefinger's note read:

Spoiler:
"Carcetti for Mayor"

:lol:

dhmac 05-07-12 10:28 PM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Old Gods and the New" -- 5/06/12
 
What the hell happened with the Red Comet seen in the sky earlier this season? I thought there would be more on that, but it's like it was forgotten.

Quapil 05-08-12 12:28 AM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Old Gods and the New" -- 5/06/12
 

Originally Posted by abrg923 (Post 11222223)
It makes perfect sense without even giving it time. She distracted Theon, made sure she was asleep, then helped Bran/Hodor/Rickon escape. What's so confusing about that? The only thing I can't understand is why they didn't take Maester Luwin with them.

I'm wondering why she didn't kill sleeping Theon since she didn't have scruples killing the guard.

dalbowski 05-08-12 12:33 AM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Old Gods and the New" -- 5/06/12
 

Originally Posted by Quapil (Post 11222832)
I'm wondering why she didn't kill sleeping Theon since she didn't have scruples killing the guard.

My thinking is Theon would be more lenient to the Winterfellians... :shrug: than anyone that replaced him.

superfro 05-08-12 01:16 AM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Old Gods and the New" -- 5/06/12
 

Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 11222620)
I'm pretty sure that Littlefinger's note read:

Spoiler:
"Carcetti for Mayor"


NORML54601 05-08-12 01:18 AM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Old Gods and the New" -- 5/06/12
 
Another great episode, but I disliked Sir Rodrik dying and no Bronn. I figured Bronn would be escorting Tyrion through the mob. Loved The Hound saving Sansa. I keep thinking each week he's going to turn on Joffrey, I haven't read the books, but I hope he becomes the next King Slayer. I'm guessing the creepy zombie 13 has Dany's dragons.

argh923 05-08-12 01:38 AM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Old Gods and the New" -- 5/06/12
 
I'm with you completely...I think the Hound is going to take Joffrey's head, maybe even before the season is over. He looks like he gets pissed every time he's called "dog". And I also think that Skeletor has the dragons...either that, or it's a plot by the black guy who wants to marry her (I don't know his name, other than that it's three names).

Either way...I have a feeling that Qarth will burn, before it's all said and done.

ryuhayabu 05-08-12 01:47 AM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Old Gods and the New" -- 5/06/12
 

Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 11222158)
Marching ten thousand wolves to Lannisport through
the tooth. Estimate to reach you by week's end. Young Wolf
Robb Stark moving troops south by coast. ??? ???? and
turn east at Silverhill.

Marching ten thousand west to Lannisport through
the tooth. Estimate to reach you by week's end. Scouts report
Robb Stark moving troops south by coast. Alert Serrett and
turn east at Silverhill.


Originally Posted by NORML54601 (Post 11222848)
Another great episode, but I disliked Sir Rodrik dying and no Bronn. I figured Bronn would be escorting Tyrion through the mob. Loved The Hound saving Sansa. I keep thinking each week he's going to turn on Joffrey, I haven't read the books, but I hope he becomes the next King Slayer. I'm guessing the creepy zombie 13 has Dany's dragons.

Tyrion being with the king and hence the entire Kingsguard is probably one of the better times for Bronn to be doing other stuff (City Watch duties, intel-gathering for Tyrion, etc.).

NORML54601 05-08-12 01:53 AM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Old Gods and the New" -- 5/06/12
 

Originally Posted by ryuhayabu (Post 11222860)

Tyrion being with the king and hence the entire Kingsguard is probably one of the better times for Bronn to be doing other stuff (City Watch duties, intel-gathering for Tyrion, etc.).

Whole lot of good it did Sansa

argh923 05-08-12 02:02 AM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Old Gods and the New" -- 5/06/12
 
BTW, where did the rest of the Night's Watch go? Did they head back to the Wall?

Josh-da-man 05-08-12 02:10 AM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Old Gods and the New" -- 5/06/12
 
I think there's something in the note about Robb almost capturing Kony.

ryuhayabu 05-08-12 02:20 AM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Old Gods and the New" -- 5/06/12
 

Originally Posted by NORML54601 (Post 11222863)
Whole lot of good it did Sansa

Yeah but I'm assuming they can't predict the future when planning out their day.

csant 05-08-12 07:34 AM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Old Gods and the New" -- 5/06/12
 
I just want more Tyrion slapping Joff... lol. I love Joff facial expressions after getting slapped.

Ephemeral_Life 05-08-12 07:37 AM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Old Gods and the New" -- 5/06/12
 

Originally Posted by abrg923 (Post 11222865)
BTW, where did the rest of the Night's Watch go? Did they head back to the Wall?

They are still out there. Jon just went on a ranging mission with a couple of others.

pinata242 05-08-12 08:10 AM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Old Gods and the New" -- 5/06/12
 

Originally Posted by ryuhayabu (Post 11222860)
Marching ten thousand west to Lannisport through
the tooth. Estimate to reach you by week's end. Scouts report
Robb Stark moving troops south by coast. Alert Serrett and
turn east at Silverhill.

This is probably entirely correct, especially with the inclusion of House Serrett at Silverhill. I'm glad my guess "wolves" is actually "west" because it seemed contradictory to have Robb marching both west and south ;)

Did you decipher this yourself or was there another source/effort out there on the internet?

Deke Rivers 05-08-12 08:37 AM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Old Gods and the New" -- 5/06/12
 

Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 11222620)
I'm pretty sure that Littlefinger's note read:

Spoiler:
"Carcetti for Mayor"

good one!


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