musick

stick his post with the pointy end

johnnysd

I always find the "honor" argument silly. So what you are saying is that it is more honorable to fight a protracted battle with his army and his brother's armies killing hundreds of people likely on both sides, than it is to just kill the one person that actually matters?

That is just silly. In my view what Stannis did is more honorable.

johnnysd

I think that you would be in an exceedingly small group yes. She is maybe the most consistently popular character in the books, and WAY up there in the series as well. Plus, she is exactly the way she is described in the books, and is a terrific actress. The scene with Tywin was one of the best acted (on both sides) and compelling scenes I have seen in a really long time.

She is my favorite book character by far (in fact, I would like Game of Thrones just as much if she were the only point of view). And she is also by far my favorite character on the show. I think she is perfect and very very special.

Astrofan

pinata242

I think you fundamentally misunderstood creekdipper's critique.

Unless you're talking about the books, then, yeah. Lots of people show back up in time. It's a very looooooooong series of books.

Astrofan

Yes.

JohnSlider

Arya has become my favorite part of the entire series thus far. Tyrion is a close second though.

Astrofan

pinata242

Ok, even I find this ridiculous and that's saying something.

We're on book 2 and she was on last season so that is "books".

JohnSlider

Astrofan takes it to a whole new level.

Ropes Pierre

i took that to mean he could have stayed on the run not knowing where his next meal was coming from, been on the run and fending for himself well, or signing on to fight for the Lannisters. I also took some meaning to his wearing armor, and not just being put in with conscripts and cannon fodder, like the fisherman who lost his leg last episode.

pinata242

Essentially, yes. I was just clarifying that he said he had a choice. Arya was the one that said she didn't have a choice.

Ropes Pierre

wait, there are more books? could you spoiler that please. Some people may not be aware the series title is not "Game of Throne".

andicus

Didn't Bronn teach us about fighting with honour?

Decker

I'm almost scared to read this thread for fear of book spoilers, but I wanted to ask : How is it that a minstrel gets his tongue removed for singing a song that makes fun of King Joffrey, yet speakers can stand in the town square and denounce him to a crowd without any repercussions? It seems inconsistent, unless Joffrey just stopped caring what people said.

wishbone

Time has passed since Robert's death, war is afoot, and Joffrey's grip on King's Landing is not as tight as it once was.

DeputyDave

I doubt he knows about them yet. I assume he will be doing some purging (and no, I haven't read the books... it just seems like his character).

pinata242

I think it's a matter of venue as well. Marillion was more likely making his song heard for more affluent people in a tavern or brothel whereas this "Flea Bottom" herald was preaching to people less likely to report him.

King's Landing has about half a million residents.

CRM114

Wow, Arya is a pretty insignificant character as far as I can tell at this point. There are so many more characters more compelling than her. IMHO of course. I know we aren't allowed to say anything negative in these threads but...

wishbone

Arya has ten chapters in A Clash of Kings -- second only to Tyrion with fifteen chapters.

Pretty insignificant...

aktick

I agree she's not real important at this point, but the writing is clearly on the wall that she's going to play a big part going forward, and I think that's the main reason she's so intriguing - we get to see her character grow up and become important on screen (as opposed to the older characters, whose roles were generally set in place when the series started)...of course most of us probably figured Ned and Renly would play important roles going forward as well...

pinata242

To be fair, most things (to this point) have happened to Arya rather than as a result of her actions.

She's strong, defiant, smart, and a survivor. If you haven't seen those qualities by now and how they may get you excited about what a character could be, then there's little hope...

CRM114

I thought this was about Season 1 and partially Season 2 of the TV show?

But thanks for the heads up to the novels!

CRM114

Obviously. I'm just commenting on the statements that she's the best or second best character in the series. I find her character interesting but not compelling and I don't really see the brilliant acting either.

Once again, book readers muddying the waters, I suppose.

Astrofan

So I guess "books" meant three or more, not just two as I was being mocked (by others) for.