Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12
05-02-12, 09:17 AM
#251
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12
It's a drop-off on both sides. From season one, it seems like the wall is a good few meters thick.
05-02-12, 09:18 AM
#252
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12
That's what I'm confused about. There is an elevator to get to the top of the wall. What is up there? A drop off (like a traditional wall) or is it flat at the top going northwards?
So I was right at least in my initial thought. Riding north from Winterfell, you would approach a mammoth wall at the base of which is Castle Black. At Castle Black you'd ride the elevator up to the top, walk off to a flat land north of the wall. In other words, you don't need to go up the wall and then down the other side.
So I was right at least in my initial thought. Riding north from Winterfell, you would approach a mammoth wall at the base of which is Castle Black. At Castle Black you'd ride the elevator up to the top, walk off to a flat land north of the wall. In other words, you don't need to go up the wall and then down the other side.
05-02-12, 09:18 AM
#253
Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12
Walkways along the top of the wall -- not much different than The Great Wall of China.
EDIT: CKMorpheus beat me to the punch.
05-02-12, 09:22 AM
#254
DVD Talk Hero
05-02-12, 09:22 AM
#255
Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12
They show it during the opening sequence. The wall is literally a huge wall of ice. Castle black is right outside the wall on the south. The rangers get to the other side using a gate/tunnel at its base. They also patrol the top of the wall by taking an elevator. In season 1, Tyrion pissed off the north edge of the wall from the top.
05-02-12, 09:24 AM
#256
Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12
[Non book-reader speculation]
That's why I figured it couldn't be that tough for a small group to defend it...it doesn't look like it needs a whole lot of maintenance, I can't imagine it being climbed, and it has that one entry. Basically, defend that tunnel (reinforce/block it, traps, men as a last resort) and you're fine. Would seem to be much better odds than roaming north of it in shit weather where you're vastly outnumbered.
That's why I figured it couldn't be that tough for a small group to defend it...it doesn't look like it needs a whole lot of maintenance, I can't imagine it being climbed, and it has that one entry. Basically, defend that tunnel (reinforce/block it, traps, men as a last resort) and you're fine. Would seem to be much better odds than roaming north of it in shit weather where you're vastly outnumbered.
05-02-12, 09:26 AM
#257
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12
Though I know that's a shitty assumption to make, and why I still wish there was a weekly thread of people who haven't read the books. Sure, we often won't get our questions answered as quickly or in as much detail, but I'm fine with that. The only series threads I've followed this closely were the Lost ones, and the speculation is half of what made those so great...it's impossible to do that here because there will always be an asshole or two who "speculates" correctly, to make himself look smart, but in reality he's read the books.
05-02-12, 09:29 AM
#258
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05-02-12, 09:30 AM
#259
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12
You missed the tunnel they've traveled through on the show?
As others have pointed, it's in the opening credit sequence. We've seen characters standing on top of the Wall. We've seen them traveling through the wall. Dialogue has indicated what it is and where they are relative to it.
I just don't understand how you can miss so much every week. And this isn't minutiae.
As others have pointed, it's in the opening credit sequence. We've seen characters standing on top of the Wall. We've seen them traveling through the wall. Dialogue has indicated what it is and where they are relative to it.
I just don't understand how you can miss so much every week. And this isn't minutiae.
05-02-12, 09:31 AM
#260
DVD Talk Legend
05-02-12, 09:32 AM
#261
DVD Talk Hero
05-02-12, 09:34 AM
#262
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12
There is a drop off like a typical wall.
05-02-12, 09:37 AM
#263
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12
There was some discussion about spoiler tags, but this season it takes the cake.
05-02-12, 09:39 AM
#264
Moderator
Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12
What was the show where that became a big problem? Was it True Blood?
05-02-12, 09:39 AM
#265
DVD Talk Legend
05-02-12, 09:42 AM
#266
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12
05-02-12, 09:43 AM
#267
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12
It probably does narrow a bit at the top. The north face is vertical, but the south face is slanted. The elevator scenes show this and there are staircases that wind back and forth on the south side to get to the top, but those have just been in the background shots and not explicitly mentioned or used.
05-02-12, 09:43 AM
#268
Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12
You missed the tunnel they've traveled through on the show?
As others have pointed, it's in the opening credit sequence. We've seen characters standing on top of the Wall. We've seen them traveling through the wall. Dialogue has indicated what it is and where they are relative to it.
I just don't understand how you can miss so much every week. And this isn't minutiae.
As others have pointed, it's in the opening credit sequence. We've seen characters standing on top of the Wall. We've seen them traveling through the wall. Dialogue has indicated what it is and where they are relative to it.
I just don't understand how you can miss so much every week. And this isn't minutiae.
As for traveling through the wall, it always appeared to me like they were in the castle and not in a tunnel. I suppose I'm too busy trying to listen to undecipherable dialogue to pay attention to details of the set.
Obviously, my questions are stupid so I'll look elsewhere for answers. Thanks though to those who have answered them.
05-02-12, 09:47 AM
#270
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12
Correct. His horse came back unmanned (Jon saw this from the top of the wall) and Ghost found the "corpses" of Benjen's party when Jon and Sam were saying their vows in the godswood.
05-02-12, 09:47 AM
#271
Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12
I generally didn't either, but have the last couple weeks - they actually do help a bit with refreshing your memory about locations and such.
And I have to watch shows like this with CC on to be sure of what is being said.
And I have to watch shows like this with CC on to be sure of what is being said.
05-02-12, 09:48 AM
#273
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12
If you're talking about the scene from this episode where Ser Rodrik came in with urgent news, it was about Torrhen's Square which is in the north (SW of Winterfell).
05-02-12, 09:49 AM
#274
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12
The worst part was that it was posted completely maliciously.
05-02-12, 09:56 AM
#275
DVD Talk Special Edition
Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12
[Non book-reader speculation]
That's why I figured it couldn't be that tough for a small group to defend it...it doesn't look like it needs a whole lot of maintenance, I can't imagine it being climbed, and it has that one entry. Basically, defend that tunnel (reinforce/block it, traps, men as a last resort) and you're fine. Would seem to be much better odds than roaming north of it in shit weather where you're vastly outnumbered.
That's why I figured it couldn't be that tough for a small group to defend it...it doesn't look like it needs a whole lot of maintenance, I can't imagine it being climbed, and it has that one entry. Basically, defend that tunnel (reinforce/block it, traps, men as a last resort) and you're fine. Would seem to be much better odds than roaming north of it in shit weather where you're vastly outnumbered.