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Old 04-01-12, 04:37 AM
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This is the thread for all of you book worms who want to compare and contrast it to the books. I don't read the books, so I won't be visiting this thread. So as a warning to all of you lurkers in this forum, stay out of this thread if you don't want to be spoiled about anything. You will have only yourself to blame if you have no self control and are compelled to read this thread.

Also, this is the place for other spoiler material, specifically from this sight:

http://www.makinggameofthrones.com/

Interviews from the creators and anyone who wants to talk and speculate about future episodes.

Are we all cool? Keep it here and keep episode-related stuff in the episode threads. Muchas Gracias.
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Just to make it clear and to avoid the bitching and moaning later on, is the entire book series fair game or does anything that happens after Clash need to have spoiler tags?
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I think it should be only for season 2 so it should only be discussions about Clash of Kings. Everything past that should be in spoilers.
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Originally Posted by chowderhead View Post
I think it should be only for season 2 so it should only be discussions about Clash of Kings. Everything past that should be in spoilers.
The problem is that it is entirely probable that plotter lines from other books could be brought up in this season, I think all materials should be up for discussion
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Gotta be honest, I can't remember exactly which storylines happened in which books.
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Gotta be honest, I can't remember exactly which storylines happened in which books.
And those lines will be even more jumbled in the tv series
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Hello everyone,

I compiled this list at thsesame of thrones off season thread on to help newcomers and oldtimers find GoT related information faster by having them all in one spot. I've broken them up in several different sections.

Official Sites - These are either official HBO or GRRM websites
Actor's Sites - Official actor sites or Great fansites
Infographics - Websites that have illustrated house rosters/maps
Worthy Weekly Recaps - A list of well known or well read reviewers
General GoT/Asoiaf Sites - Well rounded general sites with tons of info.
Full Coverage - Entertainment sites that have full coverage of GoT
Other - Exactly how it sounds, any interesting links that do not fit the above.

I hope to keep this list updated, if you guys find any links that you think should be added, please post them here, I will then edit the list to include your suggestion!





Official sites:

HBO's Viewer guide with interactive Map/Houses
Official HBO Game of Thrones Site
Official George RR Martin Site
Production Dairies from Game of Thrones


Actor's Official Sites:

Iain Glen - Official Site
Jason Momoa- Official Site
Carice Van Houten- Official Site (In English and Dutch)
Tom Wlaschiha- Official Site (In German)
Kristian Nairn- Official Site
Esme Bianco- Official Site
Jerome Flynn- Official Site
Conleth Hill- Official Site
Patrick Malahide- Official Site
Ian Whyte- Official Site
Tony Way- Official Site
Laura Pradelska- Official Site

Actor's Unofficial Fan Sites:

Lena Headey - Unofficial Fan Site
Sean Bean - Unofficial Fan Site
Sophie Turner- Unofficial Fan Site
Maisie Williams- Unofficial Fan Site
Nikolaj Coster Waldau- Unofficial Fan Site
Kit Harrington- Unofficial Fan Site
Richard Madden- Unofficial Fan Site
Natalie Dormer- Unofficial Fan Site
Liam Cunningham- Unofficial Fan Site
Hannah Murray- Unofficial Fan Site
Carice Van Houten- Unofficial Fan Site
Roy Dotrice- Unofficial Fan Site
Charles Dance- Unofficial Fan Site
Natalia Tena- Unofficial Fan Site
Simon Fisher-Becker- Unofficial Fan Site


Infographics:

Hauteslide's Illustrated Guide to Houses, Character Relationships and Locations
Screenrant's Illustrated House Tree with Actor pictures
Awesome Map of Westeros with family crests etc. (Spoilers)


General GoT/ASIOAF sites:

Winter is Coming - Most up to date info/rumors about Game of Thrones on HBO
Tower of Hand - Unofficial Companion to GRRM's ASIOAF. You will find chapter summaries, character profiles, family trees, timelines, guides
Westeros - ASIOAF Portal with information, the ASIOAF Wikia as well as Large Forums
Game of Owns - A newer fansite, Great Gallery, Great format/update to date on fandom/news

Worthy weekly Recaps/Reviews:

James Hibberd from Entertainment Weekly
Alan Sepinwall from Hitfix
James Poniewozak from Time
Maureen Ryan from AOL
Todd Vanderwerff from AV Club
Jace Lacob from Televisionary
Myles McNutt from Cultural Learnings
Andrew Dansby from Houston Chronicle
Sarah Hughes from the Guardian
Jennifer Braun from NJ Star Ledger

Full Coverage:

Entertainment Weekly's Game of Throne coverage
Television With Out Pity Game of Thrones Coverage with Active Forums
TV Overmind's Game of Thrones coverage
IGN's coverage of Game of Thrones
TV Guide's Game of Thrones coverage
TV Fanatic's coverage of Game of Thrones
Vulture's coverage of Game of Thrones
LA Times coverage of Game of Thrones

Other:

Inn at the Crossroads - Recipes of Game of Thrones
TV Tropes and Idioms: A Song of Ice and Fire
Other in Law's great maps of Locations in Westeros
ASIOAF related Avatars and Icons
Game of Thrones-Genesis (Video Game)
Card/Board games from Fantasy Flight Games
Game of Thrones news in a paper format
Games of Thrones of Muppets!
Valyrian Steel - Officially licensed products
Dothraki - A blog about Dothraki language by the creator of the Language
Visions of Ice and Fire - The art of "A song of Ice and fire"
Arrested Westros - Arrested Development + Game of Thrones Tumblr
Storm of Swansons - Parks and Rec + Game of Thrones Tumblr
Oh No They Didn't - A pop culture blog/comment site
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Hello everyone,

I compiled this list at thsesame of thrones
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Seriously though, thanks for the links.
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It's going to be interesting to see how they are going to fit everything in. We still haven't been to Renly's camp, Arya's group was barely on the screen, and Theon leaves for the Iron Islands next week. I'm guessing we won't see much of Bran until Theon returns to Winterfell.
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I spoiled the warg thing to my wife after she commented that "Bran has interesting dreams". I wasn't sure what was being conveyed there.
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Are spoiler tags required here since the thread is about spoilers? Should we leave spoilers from Clash wide open but tag things from further books since some new readers might not have got that far?
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I think it should be all open in here.

Davos and Stannis seem like they'll be great, even if they don't look like how I imagined them.

I think it came up last season, but I pronounced Gendry with a J sound when reading it.

It's been a while since I read it, was Joff as obsessed with the bastards in the book?
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The "purging of the bastards" occurred in the book, but it was all "off screen" and not witnessed by any of the POV characters, so it was somewhat muted. The killing of the baby in the brothel was told about second hand.
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Are spoiler tags required here since the thread is about spoilers? Should we leave spoilers from Clash wide open but tag things from further books since some new readers might not have got that far?
There shouldn't have to be any spoiler tags, anything and everything should be open for discussion since different story items from different books will make it into this season.
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So this is interesting...

My husband is currently finishing GoT, and about to start reading ACoK. We watched the episode together last night. After seeing how many non-readers assumed Joffrey ordered the deaths of the bastards, I asked my husband who he thought did it. This was his response:

"Well, it was presented like it was Cersei. However, I don't think that's the case. I say it has to be Stannis because: (i) he knew about the bastards and who they were; and, (ii) if Joffrey isn't a legitimate heir, the only people who present a threat to his claim to the throne are the bastards."

I told him about the Joffrey theories, and this was his response to that:

"He's an idiot. He's redecorating and force feeding booze to idiots. Somehow that doesn't scream crafty planner to me."
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Apparently there is a screencap of Ghost from episode 2, HBO GO Dutch has episode 2 early. Ghost looks pretty well sized:

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Stannis? If he controlled the city guard, I'm pretty sure he'd find a better use for them in his war effort than killing children.
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Stannis? If he controlled the city guard, I'm pretty sure he'd find a better use for them in his war effort than killing children.
It's obviously not Stannis. Stannis would want the bastards to parade around to show that Joffrey isn't the legitimate heir and he is. Also, in Westeros a Bastard CANNOT be heir unless they've been legitimized which Robert never did. This was an important plot in the history of the books as one of the Targaryen Kings (a few years before the Dunk and Egg stories start) legitimized all his bastards on his deathbed, one of them believed he should be the true king over his legitimate brother and he then started the Blackfyre rebellion.

I think the show is making it out to be Joffrey, but I got the impression from the books it was Cersei's doing in an effort to strengthen his claim and hide any contradicting evidence.

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I'm going to spoiler this until we know for sure how much we can talk about in this thread.

Anyways, I love that they are giving Robb a ton of facetime, and that will be important going forward in future seasons
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So that when RW happens, the viewers are much more invested in Robb, in the books Robb was always off fighting wars, but you never really connected with him, TV allows you to do that.


^^^ Book 3 spoilers (aka don't click unless you are on book 4)
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I'm going to spoiler this until we know for sure how much we can talk about in this thread.

Anyways, I love that they are giving Robb a ton of facetime, and that will be important going forward in future seasons
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So that when RW happens, the viewers are much more invested in Robb, in the books Robb was always off fighting wars, but you never really connected with him, TV allows you to do that.


^^^ Book 3 spoilers (aka don't click unless you are on book 4)
Many of the events of Book 3 - most of which I hope will be in Season 3, are going to be AWESOME on TV I know there has been talk about some of Book 3 being moved to Season 4 but is that just speculation or have the producers indicated that's what they want to do? RW would be a pretty damn good way to end the season if that does happen.
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Originally Posted by superdeluxe View Post
I'm going to spoiler this until we know for sure how much we can talk about in this thread.

Anyways, I love that they are giving Robb a ton of facetime, and that will be important going forward in future seasons
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So that when RW happens, the viewers are much more invested in Robb, in the books Robb was always off fighting wars, but you never really connected with him, TV allows you to do that.


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yes. I am not looking forward to RW because of that. However, GRRM never gave Robb a POV chapter so that should have been expected.
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yes. I am not looking forward to RW because of that. However, GRRM never gave Robb a POV chapter so that should have been expected.
I already like Robb in the TV series more than in the books.

I saw this gif and my heart sunk a little bit

Please don't click on link until you have read through book 4.

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I seriously can't wait for the non-readers to flip their shit over Theon this season.
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I seriously can't wait for the non-readers to flip their shit over Theon this season.
Typical non-reader response: "Who?"
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I was listening to the commentary on Season 1 and they made mention of the scene where Theon is in Bran's room trying to get him to come down and be Lord of Winterfell for his duties and how that's was planned to mirror a Season 2 scene. Little details like that are so cool.
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