superdeluxe

Loved it. Nice set up with all the different kings and such. Joffrey is still a prick. Peter dinklage getting first billing and rightfully so. Good to see that they haven't removed the

musick

the first episode of season 2 certainly made it clear why the second book was titled A Clash Of Kings

bdshort

Great start to the season! This season already has a more epic look to it, you can already see they were able to spend more money. I'm not so sure about the actress they cast for Melisandre either, I pictured her a bit differently. For some reason I pictured Davos as being a bit younger when I read the books, but I am already getting a good feeling about his character.

Superman07

I was expecting his to set up the season without much substance and that's exactly what we got.

I'd still like a better sense on the passage of time. Sometimes very difficult to tell how much time between scenes and/or gap between seeing the same characters again.

Pretty much everybody on the beach with fire was new, correct?

I have t read the books, but I'm hoping "real" king and John Snow team up.

flashburn

Holy shit, Rob's Dire Wolf is massive.

lordwow

I had the same reaction, "Holy shit"

superdeluxe

Looked like the size of a small pony

JasonF

And we didn't even see Renly in this episode!

JasonF

Correct.

Who do you consider the real king? Stannis?

csant

Fantastic start to season 2, can't for for more episodes.

Superman07

Well I don't know that he's real per se, but I was referring to the bastard son headed North with the bull helmet.

fumanstan

Good episode, glad to have the show back. Joffrey is still a giant douche. The bastard killing at the end was great.

superdeluxe

The wife did not enjoy the killing of the babies and kids at the end. Brutal way to end the first episode.

CRM114

1. Episode should have been two hours. It didn't get rolling until 45 minutes in.

2. Assuming Joffrey is not the true king, doesn't there have to be a singular heir? And would that not be Stannis?

3. The baby killing at the end seemed kind of random. Am I to assume that was some sick power play by Cersei or was the specific baby targeted for some other reason?

steebo777

It's all of Robert's bastard kids. I assume Joffrey is killing them off (or maybe his momma).

superdeluxe

1. Agree, a ton to digest in such little amount of time.

2. Stannis would rightfully be the heir to the throne, problem is, no one likes him. Renly commands much more loyalty.

musick

the baby shown at Littlefinger's brothel was hardly random at all
the mother and baby were shown/featured in season 1 when Ned visited them upon the urging of Littlefinger.

It set the tone for what followed (the slaughtering of the rest of King Robert's bastard children)

CRM114

I don't know how a viewer is able to surmise that without having read the book or possibly just finishing season 1.

But I admit I often miss details in these shows because I cannot understand what people say or don't know the names of the people being referred to.

How does killing the other bastards keep Joffrey on the throne?

lysander

I agree there are a lot of details that are going to be missed/overlooked without having read the book. I watched it with a couple of friends and kept having to stop and tell them who was who and what was going on even though most issues were referenced from season 1, albeit in a very minor way.

Loved some of the little details, such as the war council table at Dragonstone.

Dave99

because they have more of a claim to the throne than he does (he has none), although perhaps a bit less than stannis. Perhaps he figures if there are no local options, he is more likely to stay in power. Or eliminate the competition now, so they can't rise up in the future when the "secret" gets out.

musick

I don't believe that it keeps him on the throne but more or less erases evidence of Robert's unfaithfulness/indescressions and the truth about Joffrey's true parents

fumanstan

Because it was preceded by Joffrey and his mother's conversation about bastard children.

I understood what was happening, and I haven't read the books.

bmoney1023

The way I look at it is, Joffrey was embarrassed/angry after the conversation with his mom, and being Joffrey, decided to have all the bastards killed. Or Cersei ordered it so no one could eventually make the connection that all of Robert's bastards having dark hair while Joffrey is a blonde. Or she did it because she's pissed he was unfaithful.

Groucho

Yeah, I thought they made it as explicit as they could without having the subtitle "Joffrey Purges the Bastards" at the bottom of the screen.

csant

Because they all had black hair.... Robert's family dna is STRONG!

I wanted to see Tyrion slap Joffry again, like he did in season 1. lol