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JeffTheAlpaca 03-06-12 03:15 PM

Re: FOX cancels Terra Nova
 
Will SYFY pick it up at a lower cost?

Matthew Chmiel 03-06-12 03:26 PM

Re: FOX cancels Terra Nova
 

Originally Posted by JeffTheAlpaca (Post 11141971)
Will SYFY pick it up at a lower cost?

:lol:

What lower cost? Under a million per episode to produce?

Xander 03-07-12 10:02 AM

Re: FOX cancels Terra Nova
 

Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt (Post 11141925)
If I were FOX, this is what I would have done with TERRA NOVA: No, we're not picking you up for 13 episodes, but we are picking you up for three 2-hour movies (essentially a six-episode order). That would have been a great way to keep costs down, quality the same, and the fans happy.

Except that FOX doesn't actually care about this. ;)

Michael Corvin 03-07-12 10:09 AM

Re: FOX cancels Terra Nova
 

Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt (Post 11141925)
That would have been a great way to keep costs down, quality the same, and the fans happy.

Are there Terra Nova fans?

I enjoyed it, but I'm not really bummed it got canceled. They had 13 episodes to impress and they squandered whatever potential the premise had.

rfduncan 03-07-12 10:44 AM

Re: FOX cancels Terra Nova
 

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 11142925)
Are there Terra Nova fans?

I enjoyed it, but I'm not really bummed it got canceled. They had 13 episodes to impress and they squandered whatever potential the premise had.

Exactly what I was thinking! rotfl

clckworang 03-07-12 11:49 AM

Re: FOX cancels Terra Nova
 
Not surprised at all by this. Just too damn expensive.

riley_dude 03-07-12 10:21 PM

Re: FOX cancels Terra Nova
 
It would have been nice if they had made an interesting Sci-Fi show but they didn't.
The writing was bad and the plotting horrible. Was it a kids show or for adults?
Swiss Family Robinson is Stone Age? It could never seem to make up its mind.
I hope Fringe comes back for 13 episodes.

resinrats 03-07-12 10:43 PM

Re: FOX cancels Terra Nova
 
At least the show had a semi conclusion.

windom 03-07-12 11:20 PM

Re: FOX cancels Terra Nova
 
Now Deadline says that Netflix is looking at doing season 2: http://www.deadline.com/2012/03/netf...ed-terra-nova/

Gizmo 03-08-12 09:13 AM

Re: FOX cancels Terra Nova
 

Originally Posted by windom (Post 11144029)
Now Deadline says that Netflix is looking at doing season 2: http://www.deadline.com/2012/03/netf...ed-terra-nova/

LMAO.

Not gonna happen folks. Its far to expensive and Netflix would have to commit to a 22 episode Season. They are better off saving a show that can be stripped for syndication which will be far cheaper.

K&AJones 03-08-12 09:28 AM

Re: FOX cancels Terra Nova
 
I was hoping this would pan out but frankly i tried to watch it and it seemed that there were too many plots, sub plots and even sub-sub plots going on. I missed onE show and was totally lost on the second.

Shame but it seems there has been some pretty good series over the years that worked but didn't get a second shot. I actually like Invasion and what's up with Falling Skies

wmansir 03-08-12 09:32 AM

Re: FOX cancels Terra Nova
 
I agree it's a dumb idea, but Netflix proved last year that they can dumb it up with the best of them.

Michael Corvin 03-08-12 09:58 AM

Re: FOX cancels Terra Nova
 
A day later and I'm still :lol: at the thought of Terra Nova fans.

superdeluxe 03-08-12 10:23 AM

Re: FOX cancels Terra Nova
 
It appears what is driving the renewal talks are its broadcast ratings outside of the United States.

rfduncan 03-08-12 11:12 AM

Re: FOX cancels Terra Nova
 

Originally Posted by K&AJones (Post 11144357)
I was hoping this would pan out but frankly i tried to watch it and it seemed that there were too many plots, sub plots and even sub-sub plots going on. I missed onE show and was totally lost on the second.

Well that's not a surprise considering which you missed as FOX per usual dicked around with the episode order when airing them. (Why do they ever think this practice is wise?)

Ayre 03-08-12 01:44 PM

Re: FOX cancels Terra Nova
 

Originally Posted by rfduncan (Post 11144536)
Well that's not a surprise considering which you missed as FOX per usual dicked around with the episode order when airing them. (Why do they ever think this practice is wise?)

They certainly know more about their business than the general public does. Do you think they do that on a whim? Lemme guess ... Firefly fan?

Josh-da-man 03-08-12 02:59 PM

Re: FOX cancels Terra Nova
 
The only way Netflix will pick this up is if they can use sock puppets and card board cut-outs for the dinosaur effects.

rfduncan 03-08-12 03:25 PM

Re: FOX cancels Terra Nova
 

Originally Posted by Ayre (Post 11144784)
They certainly know more about their business than the general public does. Do you think they do that on a whim? Lemme guess ... Firefly fan?

They've done it many times... see also Undeclared which was aired so much out of order that they issued the DVDs with everything shuffled around to the order they were originally written. Also Futurama, Dollhouse, Sliders, Fringe...

Firefly is just the worst example because the pilot episode (which presents the exposition for the series) wasn't shown first thus confusing viewers from the very first moments of the show. I don't think they do it on a whim, but I also think that they meddle in the production of shows and proceed to screw them up.

Michael Corvin 03-08-12 03:26 PM

Re: FOX cancels Terra Nova
 

Originally Posted by Ayre (Post 11144784)
They certainly know more about their business than the general public does. Do you think they do that on a whim? Lemme guess ... Firefly fan?

Fox also did it with Wonderfalls, Undeclared & Andy Richter Controls the Universe.

I see a pattern here.

Ayre 03-08-12 05:38 PM

Re: FOX cancels Terra Nova
 
The pattern is that they couldn't find an audience. How many other shows have been re-sequenced and succeeded? You are building a false case as an excuse to blame anyone but Whedon, Fuller etc. No evidence it is because of changing the air order. Do you really believe a Western Scifi could succeed on modern network TV? Maybe in the 1970's (BSG WWW) or on SyFy.

Nick Martin 03-08-12 08:39 PM

Re: FOX cancels Terra Nova
 

Originally Posted by Ayre (Post 11145109)
The pattern is that they couldn't find an audience. How many other shows have been re-sequenced and succeeded? You are building a false case as an excuse to blame anyone but Whedon, Fuller etc. No evidence it is because of changing the air order. Do you really believe a Western Scifi could succeed on modern network TV? Maybe in the 1970's (BSG WWW) or on SyFy.

Read the "New Girl" episode thread titled 'Injured':

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/tv-talk/599...3-06-12-a.html

It's not a sci fi or a western, it's just the latest example of FOX fucking around with the episode order.

New Girl wasn't created by Joss Whedon or Bryan Fuller either.

Oh, and it's also a hit show that's not struggling to find an audience.

No false excuses here.

Xander 03-09-12 08:11 AM

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Yeah, FOX doesn't give a fuck about story arcs, character development or what fans like. They care about $$$ and maximized viewership. The proof is in their track record.

arminius 03-09-12 08:50 AM

Re: FOX cancels Terra Nova
 

Originally Posted by Xander (Post 11145641)
Yeah, FOX doesn't give a fuck about story arcs, character development or what fans like. They care about $$$ and maximized viewership. The proof is in their track record.

I agree. What I don't understand is the reasoning in thinking that screwing up the story arcs would have that effect.

Giles 03-09-12 10:07 AM

Re: FOX cancels Terra Nova
 

Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 11144346)
LMAO.

Not gonna happen folks. Its far to expensive and Netflix would have to commit to a 22 episode Season. They are better off saving a show that can be stripped for syndication which will be far cheaper.

why 22? British TV shows as well as select cable channel shows don't go overboard and think that a story should be that stretched out - at the most there should be 12 episode to conclude a story.

I think my main problem with the show was that the characters (and some of the actors) I just found grating and completely uninterested in

Michael Corvin 03-09-12 10:32 AM

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I would assume it's easier/cheaper in the long run to shoot 22 versus ramp up production, sets, etc. for multiple shorter seasons.

windom 03-09-12 10:53 AM

Re: FOX cancels Terra Nova
 
The deal with FOX was that if they wanted a second season it would have to be for 22 episodes. Now that FOX is done with the show, I don't think that anyone else picking up the show would be held to the 22 episode deal. Though they still may determine it makes sense economically to do 22 episodes.

Giles 03-09-12 11:40 AM

Re: FOX cancels Terra Nova
 

Originally Posted by windom (Post 11145841)
The deal with FOX was that if they wanted a second season it would have to be for 22 episodes. Now that FOX is done with the show, I don't think that anyone else picking up the show would be held to the 22 episode deal. Though they still may determine it makes sense economically to do 22 episodes.

I still don't get it, why is quantity more important than quality?

American Horror Story had only 13 episodes in it's first season and it wound up it's storylines - and it was the best thing on TV last year.

windom 03-09-12 12:31 PM

Re: FOX cancels Terra Nova
 

Originally Posted by Giles (Post 11145911)
I still don't get it, why is quantity more important than quality?

American Horror Story had only 13 episodes in it's first season and it wound up it's storylines - and it was the best thing on TV last year.

Well, this is show BUSINESS. More episodes can probably translate to more money to be made. Also, there are going to be some fixed costs needed for a season two whether there are 10 or 22 episodes. It probably makes more sense to distribute those costs against more episodes that can bring in more revenue.

There's probably some Breaking Bad and Homeland fans that would disagree with your choice of best thing on TV last year, but that's not really a debate for this thread :).

Shannon Nutt 03-09-12 03:14 PM

Re: FOX cancels Terra Nova
 
Netflix needs to team with a network on this to split the costs. They could be the exclusive On Demand home for the series, but the network would get to air them as well. Steven Lang's comments about the show (comparing it to the Hubble...broken, but then fixed) were great...and I'm impressed he believes enough in the show to want it to continue - he's probably not hurting for job offers. Or maybe he just has a nice Season 2 bonus built into his contract. :)

DJariya 03-26-12 09:36 PM

Re: FOX cancels Terra Nova
 
http://www.deadline.com/2012/03/fox-...go-at-netflix/

Netflix passed on the show....shocker. :lol: You can consider this show permanently dead.

riley_dude 03-26-12 11:37 PM

Re: FOX cancels Terra Nova
 

Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 11167854)
http://www.deadline.com/2012/03/fox-...go-at-netflix/

Netflix passed on the show....shocker. :lol: You can consider this show permanently dead.

Similar to "V" last year. Same muddled storylines.

mrhan 03-27-12 08:23 AM

Re: FOX cancels Terra Nova
 
Well, you can at least relive your favorite action scenes with a nerf gun. :)

Nerf guns sports seriously cool looks. So much so, in fact, that they've shown up as props in at least one big-budget TV show: alongside the dinosaurs and time-traveling shenanigans in last year's Terra Nova. Both altered and unaltered Nerf weapons were used as futuristic firearms in various episodes of the show, although the production team at least went to the trouble to paint the day-glo toys black. Perhaps they didn't want to startle the dinos.

http://games.yahoo.com/blogs/unplugg...170434565.html

Pistol Pete 11-23-12 02:59 PM

Re: FOX cancels Terra Nova
 
If anyone still cares about this show, the DVD set is now $21.49 on Amazon.

TGM 11-23-12 04:16 PM

Re: FOX cancels Terra Nova
 
I didn't care about it when it was free.

Gizmo 11-23-12 05:29 PM

Re: FOX cancels Terra Nova
 
Apparently SyFy may run this show as well (repeats, obviously) along with Dollhouse. They are going for the canceled Fox shows Marathon.

Tracer Bullet 11-23-12 06:01 PM

Re: FOX cancels Terra Nova
 

Originally Posted by Xander (Post 11145641)
Yeah, FOX doesn't give a fuck about story arcs, character development or what fans like. They care about $$$ and maximized viewership. The proof is in their track record.

I still can't believe those fuckers canceled Fringe :mad:

GoldenJCJ 11-23-12 08:32 PM

Re: FOX cancels Terra Nova
 

Originally Posted by TallGuyMe (Post 11480273)
I didn't care about it when it was free.

I saw this thread bump and my first thought was "This show was so bad FOX cancelled it again!" :lol:

DJariya 11-23-12 08:40 PM

Re: FOX cancels Terra Nova
 

Originally Posted by Pistol Pete (Post 11480201)
If anyone still cares about this show, the DVD set is now $21.49 on Amazon.

Do you really think the cheap bastards on this forum want to buy a cancelled TV show for $21? Especially on DVD? :lol:

Jay G. 11-23-12 11:27 PM

Re: FOX cancels Terra Nova
 

Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 11480319)
Apparently SyFy may run this show as well (repeats, obviously) along with Dollhouse. They are going for the canceled Fox shows Marathon.

Close, but wrong. Science Channel is the one that's going to be airing Terra Nova and Dollhouse, along with Fringe and Firefly that they're already airing. I saw a promo ad during the Fringe marathon today.

So Science Channel is turning into a Sci-fi channel, while SyFy is turning into a reality TV, cheap horror, and wrestling channel.

Gizmo 11-23-12 11:38 PM

Re: FOX cancels Terra Nova
 

Originally Posted by Jay G. (Post 11480614)
Close, but wrong. Science Channel is the one that's going to be airing Terra Nova and Dollhouse, along with Fringe and Firefly that they're already airing. I saw a promo ad during the Fringe marathon today.

So Science Channel is turning into a Sci-fi channel, while SyFy is turning into a reality TV, cheap horror, and wrestling channel.

Sorry, wrong channel. Pretty weird that you are exactly correct - SyFy is hardly Sci-Fi but Science now is...


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