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Old 01-26-12, 09:20 PM
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Re: Touch -- Series Premiere -- "Pilot" -- 1/25/12

I was thinking more about why I didn't like this show. I didn't think it was awful, I was just bored. I came to two conclusions:

1. It's not Jack Bauer. Of course not. I like 24 so much, I can't shake the Kiefer Sutherland badass image.

2. After LOST and Flashforward, I'm getting tired of the "everybody is connected, but doesn't know it" premise. I enjoyed those shows, but not really interested in another show with this theme.

Now I could be wrong about both points, since I only watched 30 minutes, but it was 30 minutes of boredom for me. I wish Kiefer all the best though, so I hope this series does well for him.
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Re: Touch -- Series Premiere -- "Pilot" -- 1/25/12

Originally Posted by stopgap
The whole Kring/Heroes history scares me though.
You know what they say, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me!"

I enjoyed this episode a lot. It was really strong on several levels. Then again, I said the same thing about Heroes...
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Re: Touch -- Series Premiere -- "Pilot" -- 1/25/12

Yeah, strong pilot. Let's see if they can maintain the momentum...
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Re: Touch -- Series Premiere -- "Pilot" -- 1/25/12

Meh. It is interesting but not anything spectacular.
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Re: Touch -- Series Premiere -- "Pilot" -- 1/25/12

Maybe Kring learned a thing or two from the Heroes mess. Didn't he say smething to that affect afterwards?
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Re: Touch -- Series Premiere -- "Pilot" -- 1/25/12

Let's see if I got this straight.

Because a kid knows the Fibonacci sequence, he knows that firefighter #318 will need to be interrupted from a phone call made at 3:18 on 3/18 in order to save a bus full of kids from school district 318. Okaaay...
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Re: Touch -- Series Premiere -- "Pilot" -- 1/25/12

I think Danny Glover's character gave the Fibonacci sequence as just one example of a pattern that is found all around us. My take was that the kid discovered a a different pattern centered around 318 and the lottery numbers. And in future episodes, he'll presumably discover new and different patterns in numbers he is writing down that will lead to other situations that need to be prevented (or made to happen).
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Re: Touch -- Series Premiere -- "Pilot" -- 1/25/12

Originally Posted by diditagain
I think Danny Glover's character gave the Fibonacci sequence as just one example of a pattern that is found all around us. My take was that the kid discovered a a different pattern centered around 318 and the lottery numbers. And in future episodes, he'll presumably discover new and different patterns in numbers he is writing down that will lead to other situations that need to be prevented (or made to happen).
Correct. He sees connections/relationships/links that the average person cannot. What appears to be random, unrelated events occurring to unrelated people actually have a logic to him like A+B=C appears to us. This is pretty well explained by the kid's narration sequence in the beginning where they illustrate the "lines" he can see connecting seemingly unrelated people to each other.
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Re: Touch -- Series Premiere -- "Pilot" -- 1/25/12

i liked it. didn't think it was cinematic at all. very tv-ish, but good tv. i liked how it all came together and seeing the dad's face with the images of his daughter on the Jumbotron was done well. i would be in for more.
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Re: Touch -- Series Premiere -- "Pilot" -- 1/25/12

Kiefer talking about Touch and talks a little about the 24 movie at around the 6 minute mark. This is from Ryan Seacrest's radio show.

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Re: Touch -- Series Premiere -- "Pilot" -- 1/25/12

Originally Posted by MLBFan24
I was thinking more about why I didn't like this show. I didn't think it was awful, I was just bored. I came to two conclusions:

1. It's not Jack Bauer. Of course not. I like 24 so much, I can't shake the Kiefer Sutherland badass image.

2. After LOST and Flashforward, I'm getting tired of the "everybody is connected, but doesn't know it" premise. I enjoyed those shows, but not really interested in another show with this theme.

Now I could be wrong about both points, since I only watched 30 minutes, but it was 30 minutes of boredom for me. I wish Kiefer all the best though, so I hope this series does well for him.
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Re: Touch -- Series Premiere -- "Pilot" -- 1/25/12

I really like it, little 24 - little detective show, little Sci-Fi...

Will watch the future eps, not sure how good it will be week after week.
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Re: Touch -- Series Premiere -- "Pilot" -- 1/25/12

Wife is immediately hooked, I like the subplot of the dad's phone traveling the world, then instrumental in stopping a terrorist bombing. Contrived? Yes, but still cool.
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Re: Touch -- Series Premiere -- "Pilot" -- 1/25/12

I liked it, but was the pilot cut down for this early showing? It recorded at 1 hour 7 minutes on my DVR and I'm wondering if when they show the actual pilot it will be 2 hours.

There were several scenes where it seemed like they cut soon and left out some plot points (especially Danny Glover's scene). If there's a longer pilot, I think it could be a great show.
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Re: Touch -- Series Premiere -- "Pilot" -- 1/25/12

Originally Posted by Ayre
Reminds me a lot of the Inarritu trilogy (Amores Perros, 21 Grams and Babel).

I really liked the pilot a lot. The direction was crisp and the acting was solid. As mentioned before, very cinematic.

But .... this could easily fall to being hokey. They are going to have to work very hard to keep me from rolling my eyes.
Lord. I've seen those three movies, and didn't realized they were part of a trilogy.
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Re: Touch -- Series Premiere -- "Pilot" -- 1/25/12

Originally Posted by JuryDuty
I liked it, but was the pilot cut down for this early showing? It recorded at 1 hour 7 minutes on my DVR and I'm wondering if when they show the actual pilot it will be 2 hours.

There were several scenes where it seemed like they cut soon and left out some plot points (especially Danny Glover's scene). If there's a longer pilot, I think it could be a great show.
There is no 2 hour version. That was the intended episode. I'm sure after all the rough cuts were shot, the Pilot ran alot longer, but it had to but edited down to fit a 1 hour window and I'm guessing FOX was being generous to give them the extra few minutes since it was leading into local news and not another show.
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Re: Touch -- Series Premiere -- "Pilot" -- 1/25/12

I thought it was fine. However I don't know how it can be done week to week. Eventually all we will be doing is listening for every minor detail to link the guest cast together before the reveal.
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Re: Touch -- Series Premiere -- "Pilot" -- 1/25/12

Originally Posted by Tscott
Let's see if I got this straight.

Because a kid knows the Fibonacci sequence, he knows that firefighter #318 will need to be interrupted from a phone call made at 3:18 on 3/18 in order to save a bus full of kids from school district 318. Okaaay...
+1, the numbers plot thrown in the show was insanely retarded.
I can believe the kid seeing some patterns in numbers, but the patterns prophecising real events??? Bwa ha ha ha.
The coincidences were wildly unlikely, a few coincidences are fine, but so many were thrown in the show that it made for extremely bad storytelling.

Have the writers done any math? Do they think numbers are magic?
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Re: Touch -- Series Premiere -- "Pilot" -- 1/25/12

I liked it. It's nothing extraordinary but it was very well done. I'm just hoping its not another procedural with Keifer and the kid saving someone every week.


Originally Posted by Tscott
Let's see if I got this straight.

Because a kid knows the Fibonacci sequence, he knows that firefighter #318 will need to be interrupted from a phone call made at 3:18 on 3/18 in order to save a bus full of kids from school district 318. Okaaay...
It's about a kid that can see the future based on numbers. Of course it doesn't make sense. You either suspend your belief for it or you don't.
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WHy do you want him to give you his dead?
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Re: Touch -- Series Premiere -- "Pilot" -- 1/25/12

Originally Posted by Tscott
Let's see if I got this straight.

Because a kid knows the Fibonacci sequence, he knows that firefighter #318 will need to be interrupted from a phone call made at 3:18 on 3/18 in order to save a bus full of kids from school district 318. Okaaay...
LOL -- I can't believe it took 56 posts into this thread for someone to point out this absurdity. Kring does it again!

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Re: Touch -- Series Premiere -- "Pilot" -- 1/25/12

Yeah it was really absurd and silly. I was rolling my eyes from the moment Kiefer left the phone on the bag. Then the ridiculous numbers stuff just got worse and worse.
At least I gave it a shot, but I don't think I'll be back for episode 2.

Also, that was one magical battery! Was that phone filming non-stop from Ireland to Tokyo and never ran out of juice!?

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Re: Touch -- Series Premiere -- "Pilot" -- 1/25/12

I liked it a lot. Solid acting and great direction. Sure it was contrived and not at all realistic, but it's a television show about a kid with autism that predicts the future with numbers. As a few have already mentioned, you either suspend your disbelief or you don't.

Originally Posted by RichC2
It needs to be fully serialized to really work.
I think they should do a combination of stand-alone and serialized.
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Originally Posted by Gunde
Yeah it was really absurd and silly. I was rolling my eyes from the moment Kiefer left the phone on the bag. Then the ridiculous numbers stuff just got worse and worse.
At least I gave it a shot, but I don't think I'll be back for episode 2.

Also, that was one magical battery! Was that phone filming non-stop from Ireland to Tokyo and never ran out of juice!?
Someone actually mentioned at some point to remember to charge it before putting it in someone else's bag or something like that.

Pretty sure that was an HTC EVO 4G which was only available on Sprint's USA CDMA network. Not sure why a guy from the UK would have one, wouldn't work there. You'd think he'd want a GSM world phone with all that traveling if he wants to actually be able to use his phone.
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Re: Touch -- Series Premiere -- "Pilot" -- 1/25/12

Was not a fan. Seemed really heavy handed and contrived to me. Very forced plot. Probably won't continue watching it when it starts again in March.


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