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james2025a 03-28-14 08:23 AM

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What made me laugh was the husband going in to speak with the wife and trying to get her to accept that it was a 50/50 problem between them both. She then states its more like 80/20 (her being the 20 obviously), and he caves and is practically crying. Now i can kinda understand allowing yourself to be pussy whipped a little on occasion when you are with a smoking hot piece of ass that takes you to heaven and back on a regular basis. What i don't understand is when a guy allows himself to be pussy whipped by some horrible alcoholic degenerate like this. The guy was no Brad Pitt, but come on mate...grow some balls and put that bitch in her place.

TheKing 03-28-14 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by james2025a (Post 12059924)
What made me laugh was the husband going in to speak with the wife and trying to get her to accept that it was a 50/50 problem between them both. She then states its more like 80/20 (her being the 20 obviously), and he caves and is practically crying. Now i can kinda understand allowing yourself to be pussy whipped a little on occasion when you are with a smoking hot piece of ass that takes you to heaven and back on a regular basis. What i don't understand is when a guy allows himself to be pussy whipped by some horrible alcoholic degenerate like this. The guy was no Brad Pitt, but come on mate...grow some balls and put that bitch in her place.

His balls were made out of pussy...

CPA-ESQ. 03-28-14 12:42 PM

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What a great episode -- I too hope that taffer helps the security guard get a job at a new location.

The fighting at that place was out of control... like an abusive family, where no one wants to leave for fear that they will end up worse off.

LiquidSky 03-29-14 07:40 AM

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We should all meet up at O’Face Bar for some beers this weekend. :)

Spiderbite 03-29-14 01:59 PM

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That place was so nasty I wouldn't piss in their parking lot.

dex14 03-31-14 05:02 PM

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:thumbsup: to Maria Menounos. :drool:

Paff 03-31-14 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dex14 (Post 12063262)
:thumbsup: to Maria Menounos. :drool:

I find it really hard to believe she's that big a fan of deep fried potato skins with extra cheese and bacon; I've seen bikini photos of her...

Moopher 03-31-14 06:39 PM

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I dunno. I love pop and I never drink it.

dex14 03-31-14 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Paff (Post 12063279)
I find it really hard to believe she's that big a fan of deep fried potato skins with extra cheese and bacon; I've seen bikini photos of her...

Speaking of...


Norm de Plume 03-31-14 09:57 PM

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Very attractive, but reputedly a bitch.

Paff 04-07-14 12:41 PM

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I liked the improvements they made to the bar on this recent episode, except for the new name. "The Shot Exchange"????

There's gotta be a better "shot" pun than that.

Spiderbite 04-07-14 02:56 PM

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I thought the same thing. The name change was terrible. Since the owner's name was Pops, I was thinking "Pop Shots."

CPA-ESQ. 04-08-14 10:51 AM

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Tuesday, April 8, 2014
Is Bar Rescue Fake? - Lawsuit Says So

While Jon Taffer always claims that Bar Rescue is real and nothing is ever scripted, most people who watch the show feel otherwise. Yesterday, a lawsuit was filed by Dr. Paul T Wilkes against Bongo LLC (a Bar Rescue production company), Jon Taffer, and his wife Nicole Taffer. Paul was an owner of the Sand Dollar in Las Vegas, which was on season 3 of the show and renamed to Bar 702. You may remember the episode titled as "Don't Mess With Taffer's Wife" where Jon gets mad that Paul was hitting on his wife. The full lawsuit is here from Deadline, but here are some of the highlights that give a lot of insight into the Bar Rescue process:


The casting company told Dr. Wilkes that the show was looking at forty bars in the Las Vegas area that were under consideration for the show. They said those who displayed the most outlandish behavior would be considered the most television worthy, and would be chosen for the next phase of the selection process. The next phase would be a few people from the company coming to film audition tapes to get a feel of how they would be on camera.

During the filming of the audition tape, Dr. Wilkes was instructed to talk to his friends in a natural way as if no cameras were present. He remembered the "outlandish" behavior being part of the selection process, so he talked about some Vegas strip clubs with his friends.

After the audition tape was filmed, the casting company approached the production company about making an episode that focused on a "dirty doctor" who "picks up on strippers."

The production company then sent a single cameraman for another audition tape, where they interviewed bar employees including Dr. Wilkes, and asked questions like what he thought of Jon Taffer, the way he dressed, and how he gets in people's faces.

Closer to the filming date, producers told Dr. Wilkes that he was 1 of 3 bars under consideration for being selected, and that they would be filmed, with the videos sent to Jon Taffer, who would select the bar chosen to be rescued.

When filming Dr. Wilkes at the bar, Dr. Wilkes was doing pushups against the bar and dancing around. Producers were unsatisfied with the level of extremity, so told him to make disreputable comments to women in the bar.

In a later interview before the show, the producer said that in order to "get the show," Dr. Wilkes had to make offensive comments about women. He was assured that the comments wouldn't be seen by the public and Jon Taffer would be the only one seeing them. The producer asked graphic questions about women's parts, and when Dr. Wilkes' responses weren't graphic enough, the producer coached him to make his responses more graphic, and to "say it like this."

Producers told Dr. Wilkes that Nicole Taffer would be coming into the bar to help with the casting tapes, and when she arrived with a friend, the producers texted Dr. Wilkes to stay away until they give him a cue to approach them.

When he got the cue, he approached them and talked to them, while the producers watched from a control room. The producers weren't satisfied so texted Dr. Wilkes to "Hit on [Mrs. Taffer] hardcore!!"

While watching the scene from an SUV, Jon Taffer allegedly called the control room to tell them to have a drink near the spot where he intended to confront Dr. Wilkes, so he could throw it in his face. He allegedly said to a colleague, "Now I'm going to show you why my show is Number One."

Dr. Wilkes then claimed that Jon Taffer came in to confront him, showed him footage of his audition tapes where he insulted the way Jon dressed. Jon then grabbed the drink in his hand, threw it in his face and smashed the cup in his face. Jon then spit in his face and tore off his shirt so violently that buttons ripped off his shirt. Jon then picked up the second drink that was planted and threw it in Dr. Wilkes face. After that, Jon swung at Dr. Wilkes' head with his electronic tablet, and turned to go towards his coat. Dr. Wilkes thought he was going for a weapon so tried to restrain him, and was punched in his left jaw by Jon Taffer. Jon Taffer began hyperventilating and collapsed on the floor, and the entire attack was caught on camera.

As a result of this attack, Dr. Wilkes suffers from emotional distress and things such as migraines, nausea, vomiting, night terrors, crying spells, severe depression, and anxiety attacks.



The confrontation in the episode is nothing like the confrontation that Dr. Wilkes describes, so obviously there are some holes in the lawsuit. If his initial story was true, I am not sure why they would refilm a different confrontation between him and Jon. If the drink throwing and punching occurred, why would Dr. Wilkes agree to a new confrontation and agree to film for an additional 4 days with Jon?

I think the more interesting part of the lawsuit is how much auditioning and filming they actually do before selecting a bar to be on the show. Jon Taffer repeatedly claims nothing is scripted, but the bars are definitely coached to be obnoxious so they get selected, and the producers usually have a storyline in mind before they start filming. Sounds like I may have been right on target with the O'Face video story.

http://www.barrescueupdates.com/2014...s-so.html#more

aktick 04-08-14 12:28 PM

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Night terrors and crying spells. :lol:

anomynous 04-08-14 01:14 PM

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Bar Rescue's fake?


No shit.

madcougar 04-08-14 01:30 PM

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If you can't trust reality TV to be authentic, what can you trust? I'm disappointed beyond words.

CPA-ESQ. 04-08-14 02:33 PM

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I think the most interesting thing about this suit is that they use video from audition tapes where the producers go in and ask them to film specific things, or ask them to be over the top.

I honestly don't need all the drama and a story - I find just the business of turning around a bar fascinating.

dsa_shea 04-08-14 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by aktick (Post 12071785)
Night terrors and crying spells. :lol:

This was my exact response.

Xiroteus 04-08-14 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CPA-ESQ. (Post 12071955)

I honestly don't need all the drama and a story - I find just the business of turning around a bar fascinating.

That goes for any show like this. Restoring a bar, restaurant, bidding on storage units, pawning, restoring items etc... why do so many care about pointless drama? More then half the time Restaurant Impossible turns into a therapy session. Another thing is these types of shows COULD be real, yet they act like they are and just lie about it. Why not just be real, it's not that hard to do. No ones buying that there's a hour left with painting still to be done and magically everything is finished with the power of editing.

Boondock Saint 04-08-14 03:54 PM

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One of the things I like about this show are the random "facts" they put in about alcohol/how a bar is setup to get more people interacting/etc.

musick 04-08-14 03:58 PM

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it should take nowhere past the intro to figure out the show is fake considering they show these big silos they say are hidden cameras that anybody with any attention span (well maybe except those at O Face) would find it impossible not to notice

musick 04-08-14 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Boondock Saint (Post 12072069)
One of the things I like about this show are the random "facts" they put in about alcohol/how a bar is setup to get more people interacting/etc.

the Taffer patented Butt Funnel is my favorite

Xiroteus 04-08-14 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by musick (Post 12072075)
it should take nowhere past the into to figure out the show is fake considering they show these big silos they say are hidden cameras that anybody with any attention span (well maybe except those at O Face) would find it impossible not to notice

Always find it odd when they say hidden camera. Hidden is a pin camera hiding inside something not a camera the size of a bowling ball.

Paff 04-08-14 06:57 PM

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Obviously, there's a "fake" aspect to the show, because as I mentioned before the most common thing Taffer gets on is the cleanliness of the bar. You get that after 1-2 episodes. So if these bar owners know they're gonna be on camera, they'd clean the hell out of the place long before Spike showed up.

But I do enjoy watching the stuff that is clearly true, like the failed concepts for the bars that the owners stubbornly stick to. The fact that a decent percentage of them go back to their old name bears this out.

As for the lawsuit, if they're told to fake the drama that we see on camera, then they're all damn good actors. Believe me, if you told me to get into a fight with or chew out a co-worker that I didn't have a legitimate beef with, you'd know it was fake after 10 seconds.

bluthswede6 04-11-14 01:30 AM

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Watch an episode of Mystery Diners for an example of obviously staged drama by people who are not good actors. It's painful

spoon81 04-12-14 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bluthswede6 (Post 12074630)
Watch an episode of Mystery Diners for an example of obviously staged drama by people who are not good actors. It's painful

I find Mystery Diners unwatchable for that very reason. I like Bar Rescue, Restaurant Impossible and Kitchen Nightmares even though there's probably a bit of fakery going on.

dex14 04-28-14 06:16 PM

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I noticed Tyrie from The Real World: Denver was working at that Hookah bar in Omaha.

devilshalo 04-28-14 06:53 PM

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I'm not sure why they couldn't leave a table in the back for patrons if they wanted to try hookah? Kind of like table service. But it seems like they inevitably went back to being a hookah bar anyway.

dex14 04-28-14 07:53 PM

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Apparently they eventually opened up a new hookah bar around the block.

Norm de Plume 04-28-14 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by spoon81 (Post 12075816)
I find Mystery Diners unwatchable for that very reason. I like Bar Rescue, Restaurant Impossible and Kitchen Nightmares even though there's probably a bit of fakery going on.

:up: A bit of manipulation is to be expected I suppose, but those shows that are outright fake (re-enactments) but pose as real are infuriating (e.g., Mystery Diners and all those rubbish towing and repo shows). Who watches that shit?

CPA-ESQ. 04-30-14 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dex14 (Post 12091347)
Apparently they eventually opened up a new hookah bar around the block.

I think they just went back to hooka and 18+ entry (instead of 21+)

UPDATE - The owner Jesse stated in the comments section that his liquor license for Oasis/Taza operates under a Cigar Bar License. Therefore, the state of Nebraska requires him to sell tobacco to maintain his liquor license. That is the reason why he brought the hookahs back with the help of Hookah John. I guess Bar Rescue overlooked that detail when doing the makeover.

dex14 05-21-14 04:17 PM

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This made me laugh. :lol:

https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/...51169101_n.jpg

TheKing 06-01-14 11:56 PM

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So tonight they aired what was billed as a "lost" episode.

In reality (heh), the episode was actually the original unaired pilot for the show, the first rescue that Taffer filmed.

It's nice to see a show from the early days again, that at least felt less staged than the most recent episodes. Even more intersting, Taffer isn't in his typical suit the whole time. He looks like he's at a mafia barbecue!

Taffer also filmed intro and wrap-up segments. In the wrap up he reveals what happened to the bar after the rescue.

Norm de Plume 06-02-14 05:32 PM

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You can also see that in the first season Taffer was less eruptive and confrontational. Nowadays he always yells into the camera when giving his asides, and swaggers around like an ape. It's highly unappealing.

CPA-ESQ. 06-03-14 01:41 PM

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This episode focused more on the business, profit, and money making of the business (girls like clean bathrooms, liquor sales have high profits, how much per sq ft you should generate).

He came in and said he was in control for the next 4 days (could make any decision he wanted)
He was a much nicer guy, and was winning people over with positive enforcement not yelling at them
The kitchen tweaks were nice to see - and not the usual "this place is gross, clean it up, I'll be back tomorrow"
There was not a huge budget for renovation (no new POS system, just a coat of paint, new sign, and some training)
I liked how they got in trouble for under pouring cocktails

Paff 06-03-14 01:52 PM

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I think it also goes to show how much the show itself causes the increase in business. People show up because they're familiar with the show, it gets more publicity from being on TV, etc. I mean, the closest rescued bar to me is in Laguna Niguel, but I can tell you if they ever did one in my city, I'm sure I'd go at least once.

But Bar V never had that opportunity as the show never aired, and even when it was filmed no one knew what Bar Rescue was. My guess is that the Bar V concept was unsuccessful too, despite Taffer's comments that had it stayed Bar V it would have done fine. Because it was not like the owner reverted to the old concept, as so many do, but tried a third concept. It was clear he was trying to make the business successful, but neither South Park nor Bar V were getting the job done.

So while Taffer does make improvements to the places he goes, it's just as much (maybe more) Spike that is causing the rescued bars to turn it around.

Norm de Plume 06-03-14 05:21 PM

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^Good point. I didn't find the name "Bar V" an improvement over the old one. I also find the new signs Taffer's people put up singularly unimpressive. The text is almost always too small to stand out.

dex14 10-05-14 02:05 PM

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New episodes start tonight.

james2025a 10-06-14 10:27 AM

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I think last nights episode had Jessie Barnes in. Worth watching just for her.

:drool:

CPA-ESQ. 10-08-14 11:51 AM

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Interesting episode and the 18+ bar crowd.

The most interesting part was the girls chasing the camera man down the road. They should have spent more time on that.

The make over was super cool - loved the new store front


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