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DJariya 02-22-11 02:16 PM

Lights Out -- "Crossroads" -- 2/22/11
 
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Synopsis:

Spoiler:
Lights keeps losing weight as the Morales fight nears, and Johnny thinks that their dad is overtraining him. The eye injury he suffered while sparring hasn't healed completely, either. And at home, Daniella, "the good girl," gets in trouble at school. Lights asks Theresa to be in his corner for the fight, and he gets unsolicited support from an unlikely corner: "Death Row" Reynolds (Billy Brown). "We've got this 'thing'," he tells Lights.


Episode 7 of 13

Promo:

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kstublen 02-22-11 10:02 PM

Re: Lights Out -- "Crossroads" -- 2/22/11
 
What a fantastic episode. I really didn't think we'd get to the Morales fight as soon as we did, but I'm glad they didn't save it for the finale.

I really like what they've done with Johnny. He was a real scumbag at the start, but it's nice to see him stick by his brother even though they had hit a rough patch. I really liked him sticking up for Lights in the gym and being there for him in the locker room. Hopefully he wasn't involved in any of the underhanded dealings between Barry and Brennan...

So I think it's pretty clear the Morales fight was fixed. I think Pops knows it too. I think I saw it being fixed coming, but was hoping Lights would actually win the fight on his own. Pops is definitely right, it would be smarter to do more fights, but I can see why Lights is so eager to get back in there with Reynolds; he's definitely overconfident now, and I hate to see him being irresponsible.

Glad the daughter told her aunt, she shouldn't have to shoulder that burden on her own. Will be interesting to see how she handles the knowledge.

The previews look great. Can't wait to see what the rest of the season has in store for us.

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I don't follow boxing, but if anyone here does, would a boxer get disqualified for hitting the other boxer after the bell when their back was turned? It seems like that would be an instant disqualification, but I'm not sure.

thelwig14 02-22-11 11:05 PM

Re: Lights Out -- "Crossroads" -- 2/22/11
 

Originally Posted by kstublen (Post 10651011)

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I don't follow boxing, but if anyone here does, would a boxer get disqualified for hitting the other boxer after the bell when their back was turned? It seems like that would be an instant disqualification, but I'm not sure.

I enjoyed the episode, but from a boxing standpoint, it was pretty brutal. The main problems were:
1. Florida's licensing tests would be more serious (they have a decent commission)
2. No fighter on the planet would ever not have his own representative to watch the other guy get taped
3. Headbutt, Golota combo, and a rabbit punch after the bell...he would have been disqualified immediately.

I really like the show, but it is an epic failure when the enters the ring or cage.

I wish they would put more focus on Johnny and Lights and bring the sister in more as well.

PhantomStranger 02-23-11 12:44 AM

Re: Lights Out -- "Crossroads" -- 2/22/11
 
Good episode other than the fight action, which was laughable and totally unbelievable. Probably the only low point in a season that has been outstanding so far.

wirefan 02-23-11 01:58 AM

Re: Lights Out -- "Crossroads" -- 2/22/11
 
I ignored the boxing details (or lack of attention to it), but I like the potential storylines being setup with the father realizing Lights is not ready and am interested to see where that heads (and did El Diablo take a dive or was it simply the low blow that allowed Lights to KO him?).

I also liked how Lights has completely lost perspective as a fighter in terms of the ability to judge his own performance and how it contrasts with how he felt about Omar getting a title shot early in the show.

The wife needs to pick an accent and stick with it, her accent really seemed to slip out when she was yellng "Come on Patrick" during the KO scene (either that or audition for a role on Sons of Anarchy)

Rob V 02-23-11 07:22 AM

Re: Lights Out -- "Crossroads" -- 2/22/11
 
This was by far the worst episode of the season IMO. The fight was so totally fixed it was embarassing --- and if it wasn't fixed then it was the worst boxing action I've ever seen. I was hoping to see an epic bout with Lights having issues with his vision and cutting weight. Instead we get less than two rounds of low blows and head butts.

And quite honestly, why would Lights' dad care if he fought 5 more times or just went right to the Reynolds fight? He's 40 and he needs to get paid -- THAT is the end game... he's not trying to have a 10 year long career as champ.

devilshalo 02-23-11 12:53 PM

Re: Lights Out -- "Crossroads" -- 2/22/11
 
:lol: @ the 2nd round KO. From the looks of the fight, at first I thought it was like the 5th or 6th round.

uteotw 02-23-11 02:22 PM

Re: Lights Out -- "Crossroads" -- 2/22/11
 

Originally Posted by devilshalo (Post 10651772)
:lol: @ the 2nd round KO. From the looks of the fight, at first I thought it was like the 5th or 6th round.

My thoughts exactly. The way his hands were hanging down near his waist, I assumed it was much later and he was just exhausted, unable to hold them up any longer. But 1st/2nd round, that just made absolutely no sense whatsoever.

kstublen 02-23-11 02:54 PM

Re: Lights Out -- "Crossroads" -- 2/22/11
 

Originally Posted by wirefan (Post 10651185)
The wife needs to pick an accent and stick with it, her accent really seemed to slip out when she was yellng "Come on Patrick" during the KO scene (either that or audition for a role on Sons of Anarchy)

The daughter mentioned her grandparents being in England, so I don't think it's a matter of picking one accent or the other, I think she might just be talking normally and some words end up sounding more British than others.

TheNightFlier 02-23-11 04:27 PM

Re: Lights Out -- "Crossroads" -- 2/22/11
 
I enjoyed the episode, but I'm agreement with the rest of you. The boxing match was awful. The 2nd round KO with him looking exhausted is either horrible writing or they're trying to hit the viewer over the head with the Dad's point. Lights isn't ready to fight a good boxer.

Red Dog 02-23-11 06:32 PM

Re: Lights Out -- "Crossroads" -- 2/22/11
 
Loved how El Diablo was smoking a cigarette and holding a machete at the weigh-in. :lol:

Yeah, the fight was a disappointment.

Rob V 02-24-11 09:13 AM

Re: Lights Out -- "Crossroads" -- 2/22/11
 
I was actually hoping they were going to intertwine the fight with his normal life. They showed him shaking hands in the ring to start the show then went to normal training. I was expecting to see bits of the rounds mixed in with him trying to get by in normal life. The whole match seemed so contrived and rushed.

Navinabob 02-24-11 10:28 AM

Re: Lights Out -- "Crossroads" -- 2/22/11
 
I also liked the episode... they just need a fight choreographer that isn't totally clueless. And I thought the MMA fight was unbelievable in terms of every mistake known to man; that fight looked A+ compared to this boxing match mess.

Dave99 02-24-11 03:46 PM

Re: Lights Out -- "Crossroads" -- 2/22/11
 

Originally Posted by thelwig14 (Post 10651079)
I enjoyed the episode, but from a boxing standpoint, it was pretty brutal. The main problems were:
1. Florida's licensing tests would be more serious (they have a decent commission)
2. No fighter on the planet would ever not have his own representative to watch the other guy get taped
3. Headbutt, Golota combo, and a rabbit punch after the bell...he would have been disqualified immediately.

I really like the show, but it is an epic failure when the enters the ring or cage.

I wish they would put more focus on Johnny and Lights and bring the sister in more as well.

I kind of thought that's the direction they were going to go. Lights getting his ass beat, but winning by DQ would still set him up to meet reynolds, but with lots of questions skill & health risks. At least they can still move that direction with pops questioning the fight.

CaptainMarvel 02-24-11 07:55 PM

Re: Lights Out -- "Crossroads" -- 2/22/11
 
The fight choreography is so poor it's hard to tell if El Diablo threw the fight.

How do you fuck up the boxing on a boxing show?

Ropes Pierre 02-24-11 10:33 PM

Re: Lights Out -- "Crossroads" -- 2/22/11
 
I am kinda happy that i don't know for sure what went on. On one hand i wouldn't believe someone with El Diablo's ego would take a dive for any amount. Then i thought i saw someone outside the ring giving him the "high sign" to do it this round. Then Lights hits him with the opening low blow and goes in, so he might have won legitimately.

Dave99 02-25-11 12:02 AM

Re: Lights Out -- "Crossroads" -- 2/22/11
 

Originally Posted by CaptainMarvel (Post 10654231)
The fight choreography is so poor it's hard to tell if El Diablo threw the fight.

How do you fuck up the boxing on a boxing show?

I'm wondering after seeing a scene with him jogging + the sparring/boxing stuff, if maybe he just isn't a terribly athletic guy. Some people just don't have it, and I'd imagine it's tough to fake it. The scenes in the ring he just moves so slow, like he's having to think it all out.

flashburn 02-25-11 07:21 AM

Re: Lights Out -- "Crossroads" -- 2/22/11
 

Originally Posted by CaptainMarvel (Post 10654231)
How do you fuck up the boxing on a boxing show?

Yeah, because every boxing movie gets boxing right.

TGM 02-25-11 07:26 AM

Re: Lights Out -- "Crossroads" -- 2/22/11
 
I thought the fight was OK... I mean, Lights punched him right in the happysack, and that's what started his downfall.

CaptainMarvel 02-25-11 08:33 AM

Re: Lights Out -- "Crossroads" -- 2/22/11
 

Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 10654760)
Yeah, because every boxing movie gets boxing right.

:rolleyes: Maybe not "right" from a technical standpoint, but they at least make it interesting. This was neither.

Rob V 02-25-11 02:05 PM

Re: Lights Out -- "Crossroads" -- 2/22/11
 

Originally Posted by CaptainMarvel (Post 10654231)
The fight choreography is so poor it's hard to tell if El Diablo threw the fight.

Totally agree. I hope this is addressed and not "solved" by the dad forcing Lights to take more matches.


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