Decker

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Geofferson

Season got off to a great start last week...looking forward to this

Decker

My DVR didn't record it. Guess I have to wait for VOD tomorrow to watch it.

critterdvd

This episode doesn't air until tonight (Monday 1/24) so your DVR didn't mess up

dolphinboy

What? It aired at its regular time on Sunday.

FantasticVSDoom

Yeah, it aired regular time here as well...

joefrog91

Anyone know the song during the end credits? Couldn't find it online anywhere.

critterdvd

My bad. For some reason when I put a season pass on my DVR the series automatically started recording on monday nights... I just assumed the show had changed to another night. Sorry for the confusion.

Coral

Really? "You'll Never Know" is the name of the song. It's pretty popular as it's been covered by many artists. However, I'm not sure who sang the version that's in this episode.

joefrog91

I guess I never knew.

Now that I know the name of the song, it was pretty easy to find the version used. It sounds like the Vera Lynn version. I'm surprised I didn't recognize the voice.

kilcher

What they've done with Margene (a blubbering mess) and Barb (acting out) drives me nuts because it seems too forced.

What a mess. I don't like where they're going with this.

Would like to see more Alby.

slop101

Man, every single polygamist (except for Bill) is creepy as all fuck, even the T-1000.

Geofferson

Yeah, I'm not quite on board with Margene. Other than that, the season has been off to a great start.

Red Dog

Is Margene on something or just plain nuts?

conscience

Wow, this was a very boring episode and I still cannot stand any of the characters since they were tarnished last season. Ugh.

Decker

It seemed really out of character for Bill to ship Anna off to Serbia like that. Was he trying to get rid of her, to keep her from Margene or did he just want her to be happy?

hdtv00

Yep I don't care about a single character in the show at this point. They've made each and every one of them unlikeable as all hell.

MikahC

Bill shipped off Anna because he felt Wild Anna was having a negative influence on Margene.

The characters I've always liked have indeed become unlikeable. I'm not bailing on either the show or the characters, though. I'd rather get to the end and conclude, "Well, they screwed that up," than bail when it may improve.

At a certain point while watching the last couple of episodes, I've thought if they're so unhappy, maybe these women (especially Margene) need to leave the marriage. Then I thought maybe that's not really allowed under that religion. I don't know one way or the other. I know most religions frown on divorce traditionally, but in the past, it was all but forbidden. These days, not so much. I don't know how Mormons (or whatever Bill is) view it. Anyway, I was surprised when he brought it up. My memory of the episode may be fading, but I don't actually remember Margene giving an answer. We do see Margene watching Bill with her kids later in the episode with a smile of acceptance ("This is my family"). Of course that could all be undone the next episode. We'll see.

So they're in this polygamist marriage and 2 of the 3 wives don't seem to really be in it. Who knew powder keg repressed selfish Nckki would be the grounded one in the relationship?

superfro

Ugh on this show. Seriously.

Last season was a train wreck, and thus far this season feels like I'm watching everyone crawl from the wreckage and watching them die. I'm in till the end, because I've been in since the beginning, but it's way depressing in light of the first 3 seasons and how I felt about these characters.

kilcher

Yeah, I think that's my problem as well. At first I thought "I don't like what they've done with so and so" but your post made me realize I don't really care about any of these characters.

At this point I'm just hoping Alby will drive them into the ground.

Decker

I can't disagree with the above comments, but at the same time the writers on this show used to know what they were doing. I think they're dragging everyone down right now so that we'll all be that much happier when they make it all the way back. Maybe I'm too optimistic (see any of my posts during the final season of LOST), but I still have faith in this show and am curious to see where they go. But if they could be a little less morose, that would be great as well.

MikahC

Here's the thing... most people outside of the lifestyle are indoctrinated to believe polygamy is wrong. I don't need a show that underlines that. The value of this show (for me) has always been in presenting the other side while giving fair play to why the majority feels as it does. Certainly it's a difficult lifestyle and should be about more than just a man being able to have multiple sexual partners (while the women can't). It's all fun and games until a man has to support all those women financially, sexually, emotionally, etc.

Anyway, Bill's family was the beacon of doing it right. Struggling, but doing it right. Now Margene exists in a constant state of one foot out the door. Barb is constantly portrayed as someone who was all but forced into the lifestyle because she loved Bill. And Bill isn't tending to the needs of his wives. It's all about what he wants to do, risk (and their feelings) be damned. Who is the positive example of polygamy on this show now? Every polygamous family we've been introduced to for any stretch of time has ended in ruin and destruction. They're usually a bit wacko. So what am I to take away from all this? Polygamy leads to ruin and destruction? Oh. Polygamy Bad. Well sorry, but that viewpoints already out there and this show adds little useful or interesting to the discussion by underlining it.

I miss the days when Bill was a moral man living up to his obligations to God (as he sees them) and his obligations to his family. I enjoyed seeing that a new wife entering the family has to marry everyone, not just Bill. Everyone has their personalities and their struggles, but I enjoyed seeing how they dealt with them while remaining true to their core principles. Now the marriage feels like any marriage I don't like seeing... one where the participants are there because it'd destroy too much to leave, not because when they wake up in the morning, there's nowhere else they'd rather be.

I think the introduction of the Anna character was the beginning of the spiral. This wasn't Bill bringing another wife committed to the principle into the family. This was Bill having the hots for another woman, wanting her, and trying to force things (she was NEVER committed to the principle). Bill can send Anna away, but she's only a reflection of HIS failure. His ship is leaky and he needs to focus on fixing the leak instead of making the ship lighter.

majorjoe23

I've been trying to find info on the group Barb's mother was a member of, but I'm not finding it on the internet. And was the Betty Ford incident an actual event?