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Old 12-03-10, 03:35 AM
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Re: Fringe -- "Entrada" -- 12/02/10



Awesome episode. Probably one of the best of the entire series.

Poor Col. Broyles. I'm not sure I quite understand how he transported back to our universe looking like a smoked ham. Was it the implant in his wrist that had something to do with it?

Loved Walter's Vagenda line.

And that was so badass that Peter took out the shape shifter without even flinching.

I do have to say that this episode felt very cinematic in production value. It almost felt like you were watching a 42 minute movie.

I'm assuming that we aren't quite done with the Red/Blue arc since Walternate now has that additional part for his doomsday device. Fans of the show better fucking watch it on Friday!!

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Re: Fringe -- "Entrada" -- 12/02/10

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Awesome episode. Probably one of the best of the entire series.

Poor Col. Broyles. I'm not sure I quite understand how he transported back to our universe looking like a smoked ham. Was it the implant in his wrist that had something to do with it?
Not sure about the smoking part. They talked about how equal mass had to be exchanged when bringing alt Olivia back. Replacing the organs they remove with equal mass to even things out. Maybe they used Broyles as the equal mass. Looked kinda like they chopped off an arm and leg because he was too much mass.
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Re: Fringe -- "Entrada" -- 12/02/10

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Not sure about the smoking part. They talked about how equal mass had to be exchanged when bringing alt Olivia back. Replacing the organs they remove with equal mass to even things out. Maybe they used Broyles as the equal mass. Looked kinda like they chopped off an arm and leg because he was too much mass.
Oh okay that makes sense. I remember that was the whole point of the operation of remove Olivia's brains and parts. I have to assume then that he was captured when the real Olivia transported back and they had to use him as the substitute.
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Re: Fringe -- "Entrada" -- 12/02/10

Yeah, they hacked off parts of Broyles to make him the same mass as Olivia.
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Re: Fringe -- "Entrada" -- 12/02/10

I'm unclear on why Olivia could not stay on this side the first couple times but she can now. Did I miss something?
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What's the over/under on Fauxlivia being knocked up with Walternate's grandson?
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Re: Fringe -- "Entrada" -- 12/02/10

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I'm unclear on why Olivia could not stay on this side the first couple times but she can now. Did I miss something?
I think it was that she got the cortexaphan in the 1st lab and was able to use it to keep her over there permanently.

as for the episode, it was tense as hell. that should've been the fall finale, but i see they are doing one more.

hopefully we see more of the alt-universe next year. would be cool if they kept that plot arc going, if even in the background
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Re: Fringe -- "Entrada" -- 12/02/10

Originally Posted by Deftones
hopefully we see more of the alt-universe next year. would be cool if they kept that plot arc going, if even in the background
I think we can count on it. The issue involving the component that Bolivia stole is still unresolved.
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Re: Fringe -- "Entrada" -- 12/02/10

Awesome episode, so bummed this is getting put out to pasture in the Friday night death slot. Oh well thankfully there is DVR.
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Re: Fringe -- "Entrada" -- 12/02/10

I love this show. I couldn't spot the Observer in this episode.
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Re: Fringe -- "Entrada" -- 12/02/10

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Awesome episode, so bummed this is getting put out to pasture in the Friday night death slot. Oh well thankfully there is DVR.
I don't understand why scheduling would matter anymore. I think Fringe fans are more likely to own DVRs than non-Fringe fans. They could put the show on at 3 AM and it wouldn't matter to me.
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I don't understand why scheduling would matter anymore. I think Fringe fans are more likely to own DVRs than non-Fringe fans. They could put the show on at 3 AM and it wouldn't matter to me.
Because the ratings are still based primarily on how many people are watching the show when it actually airs, and precedent dictates that the show will suffer in that slot and more likely be cancelled.
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Re: Fringe -- "Entrada" -- 12/02/10

Did I see Newark Penn Station in the altworld was renamed Springsteen Station??
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Re: Fringe -- "Entrada" -- 12/02/10

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Because the ratings are still based primarily on how many people are watching the show when it actually airs, and precedent dictates that the show will suffer in that slot and more likely be cancelled.
You do know that DVR viewings are now being counted in the ratings don't you?

Besides, Friday isn't such a bad night. Battlestar Galactica did just fine on Friday nights and I was recording more often than I was watching live.

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Re: Fringe -- "Entrada" -- 12/02/10

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Did I see Newark Penn Station in the altworld was renamed Springsteen Station??
Yeap.

Great episode. Loved everything that has already been mentioned.

But yeah, next week it seems they go back to the monster of the week episodes.
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Re: Fringe -- "Entrada" -- 12/02/10

This show rocks so much. It will be criminal if the shift of day causes it to be cancelled
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Re: Fringe -- "Entrada" -- 12/02/10

Originally Posted by Giantrobo
Yeah "Vagenda" is the new word of the day. BRILLIANT.
lol

yeah and Astrid's reaction
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Re: Fringe -- "Entrada" -- 12/02/10

Top-notch episode. So glad that Olivia made it back
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Re: Fringe -- "Entrada" -- 12/02/10

This episode was as good as advertised.

Lance Reddick was great this episode. I especially thought Broyles' reaction to his alt's mangled, smoking corpse was particularly eerie and well done.
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Re: Fringe -- "Entrada" -- 12/02/10

Originally Posted by joefrog91
I love this show. I couldn't spot the Observer in this episode.
the observer is right outside the penn station behind a taxi, around 29:41 mark.
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Re: Fringe -- "Entrada" -- 12/02/10

Awesome ep.

Vagenda XD
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Re: Fringe -- "Entrada" -- 12/02/10

Originally Posted by Phurion
Awesome ep.

Vagenda XD
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Re: Fringe -- "Entrada" -- 12/02/10

Originally Posted by Damfino
I don't understand why scheduling would matter anymore. I think Fringe fans are more likely to own DVRs than non-Fringe fans. They could put the show on at 3 AM and it wouldn't matter to me.
That's what I thought as well. Don't they count DVR use as well?
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Re: Fringe -- "Entrada" -- 12/02/10

Not really, Fringe is a WB show airing on Fox, the only money Fox derives from it is from advertising which doesn't happen so much with DVR devices.

They don't get much, if any, of the DVD/Blu sales and don't care about DVR'ers as much. Plus I don't think they get money for syndication.

The show gets a huge uptick from DVR viewers -- bigger than just about any other show -- so this may be one of the first shows that is actually killed from DVR use.

At least thats the way I see it

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Re: Fringe -- "Entrada" -- 12/02/10

Originally Posted by Damfino
You do know that DVR viewings are now being counted in the ratings don't you?
Tracked? Sure. Included? Maybe. Advertisers are reticent to pay for viewers who will simply skip their commercials. A DVR viewer isn't worth a live viewer to the advertiser.


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