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cactusoly 08-30-10 07:38 AM

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My Name is Earl

BrewCrew 08-30-10 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by whoopdido (Post 10345424)
Nobody watched any of those shows so that's why they were cancelled.
Can anybody name shows that were actually popular and were presumably making money but were cancelled anyway?

Just the Ten of Us

mortalplague 08-30-10 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by whoopdido (Post 10345813)
I'm curious how "The Event" on NBC will pan out. They've been hyping that show for months, but what happens if the first couple weeks have dismal ratings? I suppose it depends how many episodes they have in the can, but that has to be a very expensive show to produce. I guess I don't know for sure since it hasn't aired yet, but based on the previews it appears to be quite expensive.

So if "The Event" bombs right from the start do you think they'll pull it?

Of Course they will, Look at Flash Forward, they hyped that one up when it started and then cancelled it.

rfduncan 08-30-10 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 10345476)
It's pretty easy to give a cheap-to-produce sitcom like Cheers or Seinfeld more time, but Firefly was much more costly to make.

But they never aired the episodes already in the can. I kind of wonder what kind of numbers FOX genuinely expected to get for any original programming aired in primetime on a Friday night.

Jericho was done IMHO. They needed to wrap things up and stop spinning their wheels.

Freaks & Geeks was a real pity. I only wish I had watched it when it was on. I would also say the same for My So Called Life.

Finally, I will have to add Kyle XY which I just watched on Hulu.. Sure it was getting a little ridiculous, but I would have appreciated giving them a chance to resolve all the storylines.

Groucho 08-30-10 08:41 AM

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One I don't understand is Deadwood (or any other show on a subscriber network). Since HBO's income is based on subscriber dollars, not on advertising, wouldn't their income be the same whether 1 person watched, or 100 million?

cornflakeguy 08-30-10 08:41 AM

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My So Called Life, ding ding ding!!!

Flash Forward. I loved it...!

Superman07 08-30-10 08:41 AM

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Keen Eddie. :sad: It was fun, kwirky, face paced and had some good leads.

Timber 08-30-10 08:47 AM

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Karen Sisco
Related
Tru Calling - While I didn't watch this one while it aired I got the DVD's and the end of the first season/second season was really headed in a good place.

Trevor 08-30-10 08:53 AM

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Police Squad

Groucho 08-30-10 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Trevor (Post 10345930)
Police Squad

Sorry, but I just don't see any way those characters and situations could ever have been commercially viable.

nateman 08-30-10 09:26 AM

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Boomtown
Law & Order
Third Watch
NewsRadio
Scrubs
Pushing Daisies
Life
Dead Like Me
My Name is Earl
The Riches

AndyCleveland 08-30-10 09:28 AM

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i am shocked no one has mentioned The Comeback (HBO). Lisa Kudrow was perfect in it. Here's hoping her new Shotime series Web Therapy is as good but more successful.

Superman07 08-30-10 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by nateman (Post 10345971)
Boomtown
Law & Order
Third Watch
NewsRadio
Scrubs
Pushing Daisies
Life
Dead Like Me
My Name is Earl
The Riches

I don't understand putting shows on a list that were on for years. In some instances it wasn't cancelled so much as "we talked and we're done". Scrubs particularly comes to mind - season 8 was it?

Trevor 08-30-10 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 10345908)
One I don't understand is Deadwood (or any other show on a subscriber network). Since HBO's income is based on subscriber dollars, not on advertising, wouldn't their income be the same whether 1 person watched, or 100 million?

:hscratch: But they still have to make shows that customers like, that earn new subscribers at a good cost ratio. I'm not saying that customers didn't love it of course, but I'm sure their data showed that it either didn't bring in many new subscribers, or that the cost per episode versus subscriber retention/gain wasn't worthwhile.

Either that or they finally said one too many f u's.

MrSmearkase 08-30-10 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 10345658)
But, if I had to pick one that should have gotten a chance it would have been Journeyman from NBC a few years. It got screwed by the writer's strike and was given an awful timeslot (vs CSI Miami and The Bachelor on Monday Nights) It had a very cool premise and I think it could have lasted multiple seasons if it was given a different time and aired earlier (8 or 9pm)

Absolutely in agreement on Journeyman. The 10PM time slot was unneccessary, and should have gone to a different day at 8 or 9PM. Man, I miss that show :(

Other shows I sorely miss;

Lucky Louie (Granted, Louis CK has a new, admittedly better, show on FX, but how much could this show have been costing HBO?)
Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles
Back to You (A welcome return to the 3-Camera workplace comedy, although if this show had continued, we probably wouldn't have Modern Family)
The Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien
Better Off Ted

starman9000 08-30-10 09:42 AM

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Pushing Daisies for sure as well as Farscape, just one more season would have been great to wrap up the Peacekeeper Wars.

To add another long running show, I wish they would have kept cranking out SG-1 or Stargate Atlantis. Their ratings were fine, but I understand those shows get more expensive every year.

Mysteryfan 08-30-10 09:47 AM

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Journeyman
Moonlight
Drive
Terminator
Firefly
Kidnapped
Karen Sisco
Touching Evil

Popular shows that were cancelled:
The Unit
Angel

Double_Oh_7 08-30-10 09:56 AM

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Freaks and Geeks
Twin Peaks
My So-Called Life


And why FOX cancelled Futurama, yet kept King of the Hill on the air for YEARS AND YEARS afterward, I will never understand.

Double_Oh_7 08-30-10 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by whoopdido (Post 10345424)
Nobody watched any of those shows so that's why they were cancelled.

As much as we may like certain shows (I was super bummed that Sarah Connor got the ax), what can ya do. We can bitch and moan all we want, but if people don't tune in and the network doesn't make money...no more show.

So, every single one of the shows you mentioned should have been cancelled.

Can anybody name shows that were actually popular and were presumably making money but were cancelled anyway?

I think the point of the thread is shows that should have been given time to find an audience, or shows that still had some life/potential in them.

islandclaws 08-30-10 10:12 AM

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The top 2 answers in my mind are Twin Peaks and Freaks & Geeks.

Mikael79 08-30-10 10:31 AM

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Family Guy

mphtrilogy 08-30-10 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by JayDerek (Post 10345395)
Freaks and Geeks

+1
that was a crime.

I would have loved to see at least 3 seasons of Franz and Caruso on NYPD Blue, that was a major blow.

Michael Corvin 08-30-10 12:57 PM

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For me:

Not mentioned:
Sports Night - it had its flaws in both seasons (laugh track in 1, inconsistent characters in 2) but I think they could have ironed things out in season 3. Plus, since it's basically a fake sports news show, it could have gone on for years like the show it mimicked, Sports Center.

and others mentioned:
Arrested Development - hard to feel bad about this one given how amazingly excellent it was all the way to the end and it had the perfect finale. Not to mention the fact it could have been canceled halfway through season one.

Firefly - fun ride, and could have gone on for a few seasons if given the chance.

Freaks & Geeks - high school television at its best, at least for comedy. FNL gives it a run for the money in the drama department.

Pushing Daisies - whimsical and original with an excellent cast of characters.

Scrubs - 2.0 - I can go with this, it was really coming into its own at the end

Stargate: SG-1 - sure it was on for 10 years, but like Scrubs there seemed to be a revitalization going on once they dumped the G'ould plots.

Titus - fun and underrated little show. Watching them in a marathon you realize how repetitive the show was, but as a weekly show it was something different.

Undeclared - see F&G, except about college.

The Unit - like Arrested Development, it's hard to complain about this one. We got five great seasons of a kick ass show. It would have been nice to get a final balls-to-the-wall season.

Veronica Mars - I don't know what to say about Ms. Mars, except that it was worthy of all the praise it got prior to me getting into it.

Wonderfalls - Like Pushing Daisies, it was something unique that doesn't come along too often.



Originally Posted by JasonF (Post 10345580)
Two Guys and a Girl didn't originally air on We, it aired on ABC, the network that gave us Desperate Housewives, the Bachelor, and Grey's Anatomy, so yeah -- good point.

I liked Two Guys a Girl and a Pizza Place, and eventually TG&aG but it wasn't that great of a show. I'd equate it to Two & a Half Men (not because of the numeral in the title), because the humor was pretty generic and nothing really ground breaking.

Geddlo 08-30-10 01:34 PM

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Definitely Farscape as well.

With regards to ratings and stuff, how many millions of viewers is deemed successful?
To me, 4-5 million is quite a lot. It's just something I don't get.

DJariya 08-30-10 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Geddlo (Post 10346481)
Definitely Farscape as well.

With regards to ratings and stuff, how many millions of viewers is deemed successful?
To me, 4-5 million is quite a lot. It's just something I don't get.

For ratings, it depends on 2 factors:

1) The network
2) The 18-49 demographic numbers

For a network like CBS, anything that gets under 10M viewers and under a 3.0 in the demos is in some danger of getting cancelled. But, the network itself skews really old in general as most of their shows are crime procedurals.

Lost used to get over 20M viewers a week in season 1, but dropped significantly and was barely getting 7-8M per week in the last few seasons. But, what kept the show on the air and advertisers happy was the 18-49 demos as it got 3.5 to sometimes over 4.0.

Overall viewership is nice and dandy, but what keeps the shows on the air is the key demographic. For Lost, the demos mean 3.5 (3.5M of the key demographic) watched out of the 7-8M who watched that episode and that's considered solid.

But going back to the shows mentioned in the OP...All of them did horrible in the overall viewership and the demos. I believe alot of them were under 2.0 in the demos, sometimes under 1.0.


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