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Well that makes no sense since all they do is manufacture the drama! ;)

Yeah..I was bummed to learn all the above today. Still though....I just hope somebody finally has the balls this next week and if Brendan doesn't win HOH they put them both on the goddamn block. Why the hell are people even talking about pawns/backdooring at this point. You have 2 people where one of them needs to go. You CAN'T backdoor them at this point. Put both up and one goes. That HAS to be the way it goes to work 100%.

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I don't think production really cares for Kristen all that much. Really though, as dull as she is she's still better than that slug Kathy. Ugh!

I'll be rooting for Hayden on Thursday, and he has the perfect reason to nominate both of them with little blood really on his hands. I know the house is leaning the other way, but I really think getting rid of Rachel is a better move than Brendon. Brendon can be neutralized; she's an annoying loose cannon running around.

It would also pin Brittany. Her wholly fake relationship is with Rachel not Brendon. Brittany is trying to figure out how to get to the finals with another woman b/c she doesn't think a female can beat a male in the finals. (A real reason why she was ok with trying to save Kristen, who didn't make any effort to talk to her for four weeks).

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I haven't been watching this week, couldn't take the Brenda/Rachel crap anymore, but I had a little down time earlier and checked out jokers updates. According to what everyone there was saying I guess Brit/Hayden/Kristen spent all night selling this plan to Rachel and she had agreed to it. Right after she agreed she was called into the DR. After a couple minutes she came out and told Brit the deal was off, then Brit got called into DR right away so she wasn't allowed to go tell Hayden the deal was off. No doubt this aspect was to ensure that Hayden/Kristen were surprised when PoV wasn't used. Nothing really to bad there, but the idea that Rachel was on board with keeping hay/kri and then a couple minutes in DR and it's off, well that is rather obvious.

Glad I wasn't watching it last night or I too would have been rather upset with that level of interference. Folks on Jokers were saying they stayed up till 3 or 4 watching all the gaming as they pushed the deal and then just before the PoV meeting Rachel changes her mind after leaving the DR. Crazy stuff. I'm hoping someone puts up and evicts rachel or even brenda this week so I might be able to try and watch again.

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This isn't how it happened. Before they fell asleep Rachel/Brendan were talking about how keeping Kristen is too dangerous and is playing with fire and they couldn't risk it and that she had to go. This was after they had "made the deal" with everyone and no one had gone into the DR.

FYI -

I did stay up watching it and following it up to the quoted point above online. I knew when I went to bed that it wasn't going to happen, even after all these "deals" were made. No one was called into the DR that entire time.

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wow didn't know there was a page for this... AD is definately finding it's stride for this season

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I hate one person more than Rachel.

Drunk Rachel.

Even all shitfaced she still can't squeeze out a tear no matter how hard she tries. :lol:

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You like it rough, huh? I would like to pin her too. ;)

Most boring season since the first one and I'd say, by default, I'd like to see Brit win the show.

I'd like to say I'll miss Kristen, but I'm only able to watch the CBS edit and I think she's been on it for about 4 minutes and 11 seconds since the show started.

edit to add: I just checked over at Joker's and Britney has been voted the most popular person in the the house for 11 consecutive days now. It certainly seems like she's, so far, the only person people really like a lot. While not scientific, I've found Joker's to be pretty reliable as to how "America" is thinking most of the time or very close about the houseguests.

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That is not bad logic.

The only women to win Big Brother have been up against other women in the finals. When most seasons your shows cast men with domestic violence issues and women like Rachel who think other females are jealous haters trying to take attention and camera time if your a female even if your playing a decent game you like are gonna get slaughtered trying to beat a male contestant.

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It's only 0-3. Will was the runaway winner in season 2 primarily b/c there was no sequester, and the jury got to go home and see what a miserable bitch Nicole was while watching Will's HIGHLY entertaining DRs.

Boogie beat Erika in All-Stars primarily b/c most of the HGs rightly saw her as a doormat.

Dick/Daniele is closer, but say what you will about Dick he took the time to individually get to know all of those people before he burned those relationships down. Most of the people in the house thought she was hiding behind him and also more or less a miserable bitch. That having been said, if Eric had gotten the call to have Daniele win he probably could have swung it (ftr, he said he would have voted for Dick).

I guess Jordan did beat that smelly little boy last year so it's really 1-3.

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It's kind of funny though watching Brendon come to the slow realization that he's become involved with an alcoholic skank.

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Agreed. Although his is incredibly whiny. I hate dudes that talk like he does. That night they were arguing though, it was hilarious to see it flip around to where he was babying her even though he was the one crying and bothered to begin with. Problem is she was drunk and he clearly doesn't want the rest of the house to ever see them arguing. So he's always stuck as being the one that will have to apologize so she doesn't fly off the handle. Although I'd say if he's in the relationship to begin with, he deserves having to deal with all that bullshit. :lol:

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Even funnier will be when drag queen is added to that description.

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HOLY SHIT! Real Rachel tears! :lol:


Bye bye bitches! ;)

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What happened? Did she drop a bottle of tequila?

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If they have the choice, I think it will be interesting which one they end up taking out. It's funny though. Once again nobody really wanted to do it. Once Brendon was out it was a race to see who wouldn't win.

I doubt Matt wants to be the guy to get rid of one of them, but he doesn't have much of a choice this time around. His only other possible nominations are Britt and Kathy (Matt will never nominate Ragan). Britt is a threat to him eventually, but the size of her threat pales in comparison to the B/R threat to him.

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I truly love seeing Rachel fall from being a complete arrogant and power obsessed bitch to a tearful loser. One of the best moments of the season.

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I don't think there's any doubt for him at this point. Brittney did a good job last night of breaking it down to Matt that he is without a doubt B/R's #1 target. That alone sealed the deal most likely. Then today I see she added in the info of telling him Brendan doubts the lie about his wife.

My ideal situation is both being up, which I can't see going any other way, and Rachel winning POV. I'd love to see her in the position of really using it for Brendan or turning into the biggest hypocrite ever. I think it was super easy for her to say what she'd do when she wasn't in the actual situation.

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Best case is Brendan gets voted out so we can all watch Rachel lose it completely. I really don't want to watch a few weeks of him moping around since he lost his "love".

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I know I've seen it for weeks now, but I can't believe how clueless B/R are in regards to where the rest of the house sits. They're just so self absorbed that they have no clue what else is going on. It's hysterical to hear them strategize. :lol:

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I cant stand Rachel but besides her trainwreck behaivor and Britneys occasional hilarious confessionals the rest of the cast are duds.

I would be shocked if Brenchel don't go up but I really hope she wins veto and Brenda goes. He is like the good looking model version of the creepy awkward Zach guy from season 8. If Rachel goes he will kind of just float really far like that guy did once his allies left for being aless of a threat then Britney and Ragan.

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The floaters are just as idiotic about it as well though because they are wrapped up in the obvious Brenchel target.

How clueless can they be. Even if they can't pin down the alliance it should be a no brainer there is always at least one 3-4 person alliance in place every season.

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Julie mentioned it being a powerful week for the head of household. Was she just speaking about the 'pandora's box' or is it possible this could be a double-elimination week?

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It was in reference to the pandora's box thing, but I still don't even understand that. They said the box will unleash the new saboteur, but isn't the "new saboteur" given the option to accept or decline as well? And what kind of bonus of power does putting a new saboteur in the house really give the HOH? All of it is really convoluted and doesn't make much sense at this point.

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I was surprised that the producers actually had something happen on the AD show. About ten minutes in everyone was called to the Living Room for the first message from the "new" Sabotuer. They've referred to Pandora's Box, but its not clear yet what exactly happened there, but everyone was speculating wildly about who's the new sabotuer and what exactly they were offered.

Of course, at the point I left off, nobody was particularly close to the truth....

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Bubble up!

Britany won veto again. It will be interesting if Britany can come up with any legitimate reason to use the veto. I don't see any way they allow her to save Rachel (she'd have to figure out the alliances, but she and Ragan have their head in the sand there), but there could be strategic reasons to save Brendon.

The Brigade already has laid the ground work for Enzo and Hayden in a fake three person alliance with Brendon for after Rachel leaves just in case he wins HOH next week.

Oh, and the on-line speculation on Pandora's box is that Matt will be able to compete for HOH next week.