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Old 02-08-10, 06:42 AM
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Re: Lost: The Final Season -- Season Premiere -- "LA X Part 1&2" -- 02/02/10

Originally Posted by JTH182
But Jack was heavily medicated at the time and was starting to lose it. That could just as well have been a hallucination. It probably was.
good point
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Re: Lost: The Final Season -- Season Premiere -- "LA X Part 1&2" -- 02/02/10

Originally Posted by dsa_shea
This is what I was thinking. And I don't think that someone has to be dead for Smokey to mimic their appearance a la Walt because he was no longer on the island.

Lostpedia used to have a whole list of people/things Smokey officially turned into according to Damon & Carlton, and then other unanswered "visions." I can't remember what was said about Walt.

To me it makes sense that Smokey can only inhabit unburied dead people with how nuts some people on the island are about burying, but Walt is the conundrum.

From a podcast:

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Offi...March_21,_2008

A questioner asks them to comment on "monster forms"; whether certain things are human, apparition, animal, dead, etc.

* Ben's mother Emily = "Apparition."
* Sawyer's wild boar = "Animal."
* Medusa Spider = "Monster."
* Hurley bird = "Oh, I'm not gonna comment on that."
* Dave = "Figment of imagination slash apparition."
* Yemi = "Monster."
* Mikhail's cat Nadia = "Animal. And coincidence."
* Walt = "Walt the person is a person. But there are apparitions of Walt that may not be Walt, and also monster-related."
* Boone in Locke's dream = "Dream."
* Jack = Damon: "Heh. Jack is an apparition. That's gonna be the big twist at the end of this season. He's not only in the future, but he's not real." Carlton: "No, no. He's making a joke!" Damon: "Yes."
* Kate's horse (and Yemi and Christian Shepherd)= Damon: "We have this, this is actually a funny story. We have this board in the um, in the, in the room. With all the actors in the writers room. With all the actors who are on the show. All of the Oceanic 815ers. But then, all of the sort of recurs, like Penny Widmore, and Charles Widmore and..." Carlton: "We have their headshots. So we can keep track of who we have on the show." Damon: "And Matthew Abaddon and... yeah, so everybody. They go onto a door that says "deceased"; once they die, we move them over there. And then there's the door that says "undead". And on the undead door there's only three pictures. One of them is Christian Shephard, and one of them is Yemi. And the other one is..." Carlton: "Kate's horse. Just a picture of a horse. So Kate's horse is undead."
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Re: Lost: The Final Season -- Season Premiere -- "LA X Part 1&2" -- 02/02/10

26 pages high and rising. I've heard that after tomorrow night's episode we should have a good idea where they are heading with the show.
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Re: Lost: The Final Season -- Season Premiere -- "LA X Part 1&2" -- 02/02/10

Originally Posted by JTH182
To me it makes sense that Smokey can only inhabit unburied dead people with how nuts some people on the island are about burying, but Walt is the conundrum.
Yeah. I've stated this in previous threads, but I feel that there is a very strong correlation between the unburied dead and the people Smokie has taken the form of.

It would be interesting to see what would happen if they buried Locke's real body.
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Re: Lost: The Final Season -- Season Premiere -- "LA X Part 1&2" -- 02/02/10

Originally Posted by dsa_shea
26 pages high and rising. I've heard that after tomorrow night's episode we should have a good idea where they are heading with the show.
You've been watching since the beginning and you believe this?

I've come to the realization that we won't know what the hell is going on until the final scene. They may make us think we know where it's heading, but it's all just to mislead. (I think I may have trust issues with Lost)
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Re: Lost: The Final Season -- Season Premiere -- "LA X Part 1&2" -- 02/02/10

Originally Posted by dino88
I've come to the realization that we won't know what the hell is going on until the final scene. They may make us think we know where it's heading, but it's all just to mislead. (I think I may have trust issues with Lost)
I theorized a couple years back that the title intro will end up being a metaphor for the show. It's fuzzy/unclear at first(seasons 1-5), gets sharper/more clear as it flies towards the screen(season 6) and at the end(season 6 finale) it's fuzzy/unclear again as it passes out of sight.

So going into the final episodes it's going to seem that it's starting to become clear to the viewers what's going on but in the finale they'll throw us a curveball and it's going to be ambiguous and unclear what the hell just happened.
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Re: Lost: The Final Season -- Season Premiere -- "LA X Part 1&2" -- 02/02/10

Originally Posted by JTH182
But Jack was heavily medicated at the time and was starting to lose it. That could just as well have been a hallucination. It probably was.
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good point
There haven't been any hallucinations yet have there?
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Re: Lost: The Final Season -- Season Premiere -- "LA X Part 1&2" -- 02/02/10

Originally Posted by Jason
I just rewatched it today too, and can unofficially confirm that the second half had about 6 minutes more commercials in it than the first half.
Hulu lists runtimes of 43:30 and 42:19 for Parts 1 and 2, respectively. Did the second episode run until 11:05? I honestly don't remember.
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Re: Lost: The Final Season -- Season Premiere -- "LA X Part 1&2" -- 02/02/10

Originally Posted by FatTony
Hulu lists runtimes of 43:30 and 42:19 for Parts 1 and 2, respectively. Did the second episode run until 11:05? I honestly don't remember.
as I said, unofficial. I based off the time I started watching the recording off the DVR. With scanning through commercials, the first "half" was finished in 45 minutes, and the second half went by in 40 minutes. Do both parts on Hulu have opening/closing credits?
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Re: Lost: The Final Season -- Season Premiere -- "LA X Part 1&2" -- 02/02/10

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
I theorized a couple years back that the title intro will end up being a metaphor for the show. It's fuzzy/unclear at first(seasons 1-5), gets sharper/more clear as it flies towards the screen(season 6) and at the end(season 6 finale) it's fuzzy/unclear again as it passes out of sight.

So going into the final episodes it's going to seem that it's starting to become clear to the viewers what's going on but in the finale they'll throw us a curveball and it's going to be ambiguous and unclear what the hell just happened.
I'm fully prepared for the ending of Lost to be incomprehensible.
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Re: Lost: The Final Season -- Season Premiere -- "LA X Part 1&2" -- 02/02/10

The producers should just forgo the series finale and conspire with ABC to "cancel" the show one week before it airs.
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Re: Lost: The Final Season -- Season Premiere -- "LA X Part 1&2" -- 02/02/10

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The producers should just forgo the series finale and conspire with ABC to "cancel" the show one week before it airs.
Hire Conan and replace it with his new show.
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Re: Lost: The Final Season -- Season Premiere -- "LA X Part 1&2" -- 02/02/10

Originally Posted by whotony
There haven't been any hallucinations yet have there?

You mean at all in the whole series? Boone hallucinated after Locke slipped him a mickey.
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Re: Lost: The Final Season -- Season Premiere -- "LA X Part 1&2" -- 02/02/10

Originally Posted by JTH182
You mean at all in the whole series? Boone hallucinated after Locke slipped him a mickey.
More specifically in relation to any of these characters appearing to other characters as a hallucination.
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Re: Lost: The Final Season -- Season Premiere -- "LA X Part 1&2" -- 02/02/10

How can we know for sure?
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Re: Lost: The Final Season -- Season Premiere -- "LA X Part 1&2" -- 02/02/10

I would say it hasn't happened, it would be a cheat.
Having these appearances then saying oh it didn't really happen it was just a dream.
They don't have to do it anyway, it can be said they appeared via smokey.
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Re: Lost: The Final Season -- Season Premiere -- "LA X Part 1&2" -- 02/02/10

Is it too early to start the thread for episode 3? Can't wait!
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Re: Lost: The Final Season -- Season Premiere -- "LA X Part 1&2" -- 02/02/10

Originally Posted by Groucho
The producers should just forgo the series finale and conspire with ABC to "cancel" the show one week before it airs.
And advertise that the final season BD/DVD sets include the unaired series finale contained on a separate disc. Then have all copies of said disc crap out 20 minutes into the episode.
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Re: Lost: The Final Season -- Season Premiere -- "LA X Part 1&2" -- 02/02/10

One more viewing of this episode and I found another tidbit of info. On Sayid's passport it shows a current date at the very bottom which is kind of hard to read but I think it's clear that the year is 2007. I believe the date reads: 5/14/07. This makes the haircut a little more believable for Jack. It also makes sense to go out the window and underneath the water and see the island as it was in 2007 with the buildings falling apart.

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Re: Lost: The Final Season -- Season Premiere -- "LA X Part 1&2" -- 02/02/10

Looks like the year is 04 to me.
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Re: Lost: The Final Season -- Season Premiere -- "LA X Part 1&2" -- 02/02/10

Originally Posted by FatTony
Looks like the year is 04 to me.
That's, of course, what they want you to think. The other 4's on the form have open tops and the other 7 doesn't have a slash through it.

It just makes more sense for both the plane sequence and the underwater sequence to be in the same timeline.

Also, Sayid only had the one picture of Nadia in 2004. This is a completely different picture. He also lists Amsterdam or Australia or Austria in the countries visited probably while working for Ben.

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Re: Lost: The Final Season -- Season Premiere -- "LA X Part 1&2" -- 02/02/10

I thought Sayid was Iraqi? Why does he have an Iranian passport?
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Re: Lost: The Final Season -- Season Premiere -- "LA X Part 1&2" -- 02/02/10

Originally Posted by Flave
I thought Sayid was Iraqi? Why does he have an Iranian passport?
Either its a production error or its something to do with the alternate reality.

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