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Lost: Why no more 23 episodes?

I have enjoyed Lost. I am new to the series and I watched all 4 seasons via Netflix on the Streaming service. I liked when Seasons 1 - 3 had a decent number of episodes. Season 4 only have 14 episodes which I read was because of the writer's strike but why is Season 5 and 6 only have 17 episodes. They could have more in the final season since the strike is over. What gives?
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Re: Lost: Why no more 23 episodes?

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I have enjoyed Lost. I am new to the series and I watched all 4 seasons via Netflix on the Streaming service. I liked when Seasons 1 - 3 had a decent number of episodes. Season 4 only have 14 episodes which I read was because of the writer's strike but why is Season 5 and 6 only have 17 episodes. They could have more in the final season since the strike is over. What gives?
The writer's set an end date and stated that they only had X amount of episodes of story left. I for one am thankful because the storylines have been way more focused since they made that decision. There aren't any more "filler" episodes.
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Re: Lost: Why no more 23 episodes?

After ABC and the producers agreed to a set end date for the series at the end of Season Three, one of the suggestions was to run each of the remaining series continuously with no breaks for holidays/repeats. So the original plan was three remaining seasons of 16 episodes each to avoid any breaks in flow of the series. 16 worked better for production costs and scheduling through late January to May.

The writer's strike shortened Season Four by two, so an episode was added to the runs of Season Five and Six. Subsequently, an 18th episode (well, another hour to the finale) has been added to Season Six as well.

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Re: Lost: Why no more 23 episodes?

Could be worse. Could be like "The Office" where they label clip shows as "new" episodes just to pad the count.
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Re: Lost: Why no more 23 episodes?

I don't recall ever seeing a clip show of The Office. What season had that? I think Lost had 3 clip shows so far right? Or was calling them "specials" not include them to the episode count?
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Re: Lost: Why no more 23 episodes?

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I don't recall ever seeing a clip show of The Office. What season had that?
Season six. Last Thursday.
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Re: Lost: Why no more 23 episodes?

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I think Lost had 3 clip shows so far right? Or was calling them "specials" not include them to the episode count?
There have been 11 "recap" specials so far for LOST, with a 12th scheduled to air immediately before the 6th season premiere.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...5.E2.80.932010

They're not included in the official episode production, and there's no new footage to frame the clips (as with other clip shows). They're also not included in the season sets on DVD or BD.

I think ABC has advertised the recap shows as being "new" LOST (e.g. advertising "2 new hours of LOST" for a given week, when one of the hours is a recap), but since the recaps almost always air immediately before a new "real" episode of LOST, this strategy hasn't earned them much angst from the fans.
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Re: Lost: Why no more 23 episodes?

The Office "clip show" was still one of the funniest episodes. A painful reminder of how funny the show used to be.
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Re: Lost: Why no more 23 episodes?

And to reiterate: There were originally only going to be 5 seasons. Now you're getting 6. So you're getting the same story, in the end. They just drag it out longer and drive you crazy for 6 years instead of 5.

An additional plus side for the studio, they make more money on the DVDs/Blu-rays by selling a larger number of different sets. What, did you think you were going to see lower MSRPs just because there are fewer episodes in a set? (OK, they did that with S4: dropped the episode count by 33% and the MSRP by 10%. Thanks!)
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Re: Lost: Why no more 23 episodes?

I know I probably stand alone, but since they have had the end date, it seems they are cramming way too much in each episode to make it fit. I think they could have padded it a few. Not a whole season, mind you, but maybe six would have been enough to not have this 'racing to the finish line' feel.

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Season six. Last Thursday.


Deadpan response, perfectly suited for an Office answer.

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Re: Lost: Why no more 23 episodes?

Originally Posted by PHMustang2000 View Post
I have enjoyed Lost. I am new to the series and I watched all 4 seasons via Netflix on the Streaming service. I liked when Seasons 1 - 3 had a decent number of episodes. Season 4 only have 14 episodes which I read was because of the writer's strike but why is Season 5 and 6 only have 17 episodes. They could have more in the final season since the strike is over. What gives?
Season 5 used the episodes it had very well, and I'm eager to see Season 6 ... but am glad it's shortened as I don't think they have 24 episodes of content left
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Re: Lost: Why no more 23 episodes?

I'm re-watching this on Blu-ray right now...trying to finish before the new season starts back up...

But you definitely notice the lack of filler episodes from the end of season 3 on.

Most "Hurley" episodes from 1-3 were what I would consider filler...sure they were funny, but rarely did they move the plot that much.
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Re: Lost: Why no more 23 episodes?

There were going to be 48 more eps left so they decided to make it three seasons of 16 instead of 2 seasons of 24 eps.
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But even a filler epsiode of Lost is better than most of the shit on TV these days. I miss the days when TV shows like Dallas had 30 episodes per season.
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Re: Lost: Why no more 23 episodes?

I actually like the shorter seasons. I feel they are paced a lot better, with less filler. Believe it or not, most network shows are a turn off for me because they have to fill so many episodes. I guess I just love HBO's standard of 12-13 episodes a season.
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Re: Lost: Why no more 23 episodes?

Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt View Post
The Office "clip show" was still one of the funniest episodes. A painful reminder of how funny the show used to be.
Proof positive that opinions CAN be wrong.
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Re: Lost: Why no more 23 episodes?

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But even a filler epsiode of Lost is better than most of the shit on TV these days.
Opinions, they do vary.

I miss the days when TV shows like Dallas had 30 episodes per season.
For a sitcom or a non-arc drama like Law and Order, more episodes really don't matter. But when the writers are trying to tell an ongoing story, shorter is better.
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Re: Lost: Why no more 23 episodes?

Originally Posted by PHMustang2000 View Post
I have enjoyed Lost. I am new to the series and I watched all 4 seasons via Netflix on the Streaming service. I liked when Seasons 1 - 3 had a decent number of episodes. Season 4 only have 14 episodes which I read was because of the writer's strike but why is Season 5 and 6 only have 17 episodes. They could have more in the final season since the strike is over. What gives?
While on the surface you might think that having more episodes per season would be "better", Seasons 2 & 3 showed us that this is not the case. As the second poster mentioned, Seasons 4 & 5 cut out the filler and delivered pure plot. I think they are the best reasons as a result. I for one am relieved Season 6 will not have 20+ episodes.
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While on the surface you might think that having more episodes per season would be "better", Seasons 2 & 3 showed us that this is not the case.
To be fair, seasons 2 & 3 were made before there was a definite end-date in place, so the writers didn't know how long they'd have to drag the show, and the various "secrets," out. If seasons 4-6 has simply a shorter running time, but no known end date, there may have been as much dithering in them as with the earlier seasons (since the writers would have to hold back certain plot points for a possible season 8, 9, etc.).
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Re: Lost: Why no more 23 episodes?

Sorry guys, I just caught up to the Office on my DVR. I actually watched it as it had a few good fresh moments in it. Does anyone know if they plan on doing the whole pop-up video trivia again on lost? I though it was sort of a neat idea to try out pn broadcast TV (though usually better on DVD). I dont recall how rating went for those episodes or if there was talk on them returning.
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Re: Lost: Why no more 23 episodes?

Originally Posted by Navinabob View Post
Sorry guys, I just caught up to the Office on my DVR. I actually watched it as it had a few good fresh moments in it. Does anyone know if they plan on doing the whole pop-up video trivia again on lost? I though it was sort of a neat idea to try out pn broadcast TV (though usually better on DVD). I dont recall how rating went for those episodes or if there was talk on them returning.
They did it for the repeat of the Season 5 finale that they aired on Tuesday. I just wish they had included them on the DVD and Blu-ray releases.
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They did it for the repeat of the Season 5 finale that they aired on Tuesday. I just wish they had included them on the DVD and Blu-ray releases.
I don't know why they don't include them as they often bring up information that can easily be overlooked. Hopefully they're not saving these for an ultimate release.
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Re: Lost: Why no more 23 episodes?

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I don't recall ever seeing a clip show of The Office. What season had that? I think Lost had 3 clip shows so far right? Or was calling them "specials" not include them to the episode count?
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Re: Lost: Why no more 23 episodes?

Only two days away. Let's hope they make the most of the few episodes they have.

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